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Researchers Probe Dark and Murky Net

umm qasr writes: "Security Focus has an interesting article on blocks of internet space that are hidden from most users, it is based on a survey by Arbor Networks. The most common 'invisible sites' being .mil, which seems is unintentional. The survey suggests others, which seem more sinister...using unused netblock addresses to send spam. It's a bit short on the details but interesting none the less."

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  1. Spammers as Romulans? by odaiwai · · Score: 2, Funny

    "First Officer! Demurk!"
    "Yes Captain Spamford."
    "Prepare spam... Bulk Email!"
    "Bulk Emailing sir! ... Finished!"
    "Excellent, return to Murk space."

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    "Sir! it's an anti spammer!"
    "What's he want?"
    "He wants to shove our testicles up our noses and beat us to death with toner cartridges. He said something about sucking your eyes out with a penis enlarger as well."
    "again?"

    dave

  2. Dark address space? by gabriel_aristos · · Score: 5, Funny

    So.. Does this mean that if they find enough "dark address space", the Internet will eventually stop growing, and someday, billions of years from now collapse back in upon itself to start the cycle all over again?

    -j

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    1. Re:Dark address space? by G-funk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Worse though is when dark address space and normal address space collide, releasing a ddos beyond compare to all hosts within 15 hops....

      =)

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  3. Again? Yawn... by O2n · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the article:

    Because routers don't normally log such activity, murky address space could hide the full range of antisocial or illegal network behavior, says Labovitz.

    Oh no, here we go again. Just because it's about the internet and contains a lot of words that are a little bit different to what "normal" people use daily - like "router", "hosts" and "routable address space" - it doesn't mean it's something dangerous. Not even new.

    Can you imagine someone getting funds to look into the origins of "paper spam"? "Oh no, the spammers are using bogus return addresses!" "Bad guys can communicate pretty safe and unhindered by putting their messages in envelopes, stamping them and sendim them by mail!"

    I can understand that the guys had to show something for 3 years worth of "research", but unless the securityfocus article is a very-very short, abridged version for the masses, they have no results.

  4. Re:Invisible web? by richie2000 · · Score: 3, Funny
    In any case, has anybody seen one of those "dark" addresses sometime?

    If you could see one, it wouldn't be dark. And if you did see one, They would have to kill you.

    I think this is just another .mil conspiracy - those sites and addresses aren't just parts of badly managed webspace - they are websites of black ops, dark projects, stealth planes and hidden agendas. An intranet for the Anti-Illuminati - the Shadows. :-)

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  5. Five or ten web sites... by philipx · · Score: 2, Funny

    the phenomenon is generally not noticeable to average Internet users because most netizens only use a tiny portion of the Net. "Most people access five or ten web sites," Labovitz says.

    Oh...(SHOCKED!) so does it mean out there are other sites besides slashdot...
    Cool... do you need any special software to browse them ? I use K-Meleon. There's a green icon on my desktop - I double click it and it takes me to slashdot.org, where I read the coolest stuff and then I click the tiny X button ontop when I finished.

    Heard about a proggie, though: Internet Exploder that would supposedly take you places where you wanted to go that thay - I always thought it's some travel/tourism/ticket booking application or stuff like that....

    Gone researching how to get to the others 4 or 9 web sites...

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  6. Re:routing by Smuffe · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's the crack. Stop using that shit! Its bad for your health, and can cause serious damage and addiction!

    /Smuffe

  7. I know what they're talking about... by Denor · · Score: 1, Funny


    I've had a ton of problems getting to certain places on the internet. Whole IP blocks are giving me trouble. Some include:


    • 10.x.x.x
    • 172.16.x.x - 172.31.x.x
    • 192.168.x.x


    That's not even the strangest thing. I think I've discovered some sort of strange parallel universe gateway at 127.0.0.1! The computer there is exactly like mine!

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  8. Re:Not to mention... by pomakis · · Score: 3, Funny
    A couple of years ago I was in a Radio Shack in the Boston area. They wouldn't let me purchase my item (a $2 adaptor) until I gave them my mailing address. When they asked me what state I live in, I said that I live in the province of Ontario. They asked what the two-letter abbreviation for that was, and I said "ON". Their computer wouldn't accept that, saying "invalid state". So they just entered "CA" (for Canada) as the state. They then asked me what my zip code was, and I told them that my postal code was "K1N 1B7". They said that their computers didn't accept letters, only numbers. So I said "argh! Okay, try '12345'!". They tried, and the computer complained that the zip code didn't match the entered state (California). So I then gave them the only California zip code I know by heart - 90210. Thus, Radio Shack now thinks I live in Beverly Hills.