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Combining Nanotech and Radiology

Twilight1 writes "According to this article at CNN, researchers are testing a microscopic "smart bomb" to target, attack, and kill cancer cells. It's quite fascinating that they are using radioactive by-products from the production of nuclear power and weapons as the effective payload."

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  1. Normal cells by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Perhaps a biologist can answer a question I've had about this, which is also related I suppose to Chemotherapy.

    What is the difference between a cancer cell and a "normal" cell? Why would radiation therapy tend to kill cancer cells faster than normal cells? The article mentions that they are concerned that normal cells might be affected, but they don't explain why it would favor cancer cells in the first place.

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    1. Re:Normal cells by Edgy+Loner · · Score: 5, Informative

      Divison.

      Radiation, chemotherapy and the like are more likely to kill cells during division. Cancer cells divide all the time, hence are more sensitive to these agents. Most normal cells don't divide as much and aren't as senstive. Exceptions would be hthe cells that line the gi tract and form hair follicles. Which is why rad/chemotherapy tends to make people losse their hair.

    2. Re:Normal cells by yet+another+coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Cancer cells multiply abnormally fast, causing tumors. To accomplish this rapid proliferation, they replicate DNA more than normal cells. Ionizing radiation and chemotherapy often (always?) target DNA. By damaging DNA or causing manufacture of defective DNA, they preferentially affect cells that are multiplying rapidly. Many of the side effects are due to destruction of tissues with high rates of multiplication such as bone marrow and gut.

  2. side effects? by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 3, Funny

    i wonder if the fact the mice were glowing made sleep difficult?

  3. Biology Question by brunes69 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been wondering this for some time. Cancer cells are cells which multiply indefinatly, as opposed to normal cells, which only multiply for a specified amoutn of time, and then die off (with the exception of stem cells). Correct? Ok. Well' if I am right so far, can someone tell me why more research isn't going into controlling cancer, rather than destroying it? Like, I would think, if you could start and stop the cancer effect at will, you could live forever. Am I totally off base?

  4. The Crack Science Reporters at CNN by EccentricAnomaly · · Score: 3, Informative

    They are held together in the same way that magnets can stick together -- the isotope has a positive charge and the molecular cage has a negative charge.

    Magnets do not stick together because one has a positive charge and the other has a negative charge. I learned this in third grade science.

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  5. Re:Makes me wonder about the percentages. by rgmoore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, one of the greatest benefits of radioimmunotherapy compared to conventional radiation therapy is that it's much better at treating metastatic cancers. Since the radiation is attached to antibodies, it will circulate through the blood and attach to cancerous cells wherever they happen to be. That makes it a great technique for treating cancer that's spread beyond its initial tumor. A slight modification to the technique can also be used for diagnosis; they use a different isotope, one that emits gama-rays rather than alphas, and then use a gama-ray sensitive camera to image where the isotopes wind up. That lets them find out where the cancer has spread.

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  6. A quick look at the Ac-225 decay chain... by Dr.+Zowie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Alpha emitters are great for this kind of work, because alpha particles have a high interaction cross section once they're inside the body. That concentrates their damage in a small space. (You can handle blocks of alpha-decay material without hazard, because the alpha particles plough into your epidermis and stop there, wreaking terrible damage on ... tissue that's already dead.)

    I bopped on over to one of the online charts of the nuclides to check out the decay chain of Ac-225. Indeed, the next two daughters are alpha-emitters, but the first one, Fr-221, has a 5-minute half-life. That ought to give it plenty of time to get ducted around into your bloodstream and into the rest of your body before emitting the next two alphas and a couple of beta particles, eventually transmuting to stable Bismuth.

    So the developers aren't being quite candid when they say that the daugter alpha particles could inflict additional damage on the tumor. Sure, they could -- but (with the antibody bonds long since broken by the recoil from the initial decay) that atom could end up anywhere in your body before decaying again.

    This stuff is interesting -- I used to make radioactive saline at the Reed Reactor Facility for medical uses, so I poked around the chart of the nuclides to see how one would make Ac-225. Ideally, you want to start with a nice, stable (or at least long-lived) element, kick a neutron into it (by lowering the ore into a nuclear reactor), and let it turn into what you want via a series of rapid decays. (That's one way to make the Americium 241 in smoke detectors; I'll leave the source element as an exercise for the reader). But Ac-225 doesn't seem to have any such nice precursor decay paths with short half-lives. The half-life is short enough that you wouldn't want to get it from spent fuel (too `hot' until after the Ac-225 is gone!), so I'm not entirely sure how you'd make it.

    1. Re:A quick look at the Ac-225 decay chain... by mmontour · · Score: 3, Informative

      so I poked around the chart of the nuclides to see how one would make Ac-225[...]But Ac-225 doesn't seem to have any such nice precursor decay paths with short half-lives.

      I did a bit of web searching (with my CRC "Table of the Isotopes" handy), and it looks like the key is Uranium-233.

      U-233 can be formed in a breeder reactor from Th-232, by: Th-232 + n -> Th-233 -> Pa-233 + e- -> U-233 + e-

      Once you have the U-233, U-233 -> Th-229 + alpha -> Ra-225 + alpha -> Ac-225 + e-

      This page at ORNL indicates they have a stockpile of 400kg of Uranium-233, and are "the only significant source of bismuth-213 [3 decays down from Ac-225, also useful for cancer treatment] in the western hemisphere".

  7. Re:chemotherapy does more than DNA by davebo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just as an aside:

    Chemotherapeutics (at least, some anthracyclines) not only muck around with DNA, but can lead to free radical generation & can damage cellular membrane components.

    They're nasty, nasty molecules.

  8. Reply from a cancer researcher.. by Chico+Science · · Score: 4, Informative

    I work at the National Cancer Institute and figured I'd give my personal scientific view (not official, since I'd get flayed for doing that).

    While the research *is* interesting there are a lot of caveats. The article specified that this technique has been successful in treating a broad range of cancers. In culture. This means there's cells in a flask with medium and they add the agent to the medium. This means the cancers are definitely coming in contact. In a human system, this may not be the case. An intravenous injection may not service tumors embedded in tissues. Especially brain tumors because of the blood-brain barrier.

    Another caveat. Nearly every system of targetted therapeutics involving antibodies has failed in humans, despite any remarkable results in mice. Several other wildly successful therapeutics in mice (angiogenesis inhibitors for example) are only modestly successful in humans.

    Models, be they mouse or cell culture, do not carry over terrifically well to 'in the wild' cancers in humans. Entirely possible that these treatments will have some benefit for certain cases. On the whole, this isn't the "smart bomb" or "cure for cancer" the media portrays. Unfortunately, the AP doesn't report the caveats. Also, as of yesterday, I wasn't able to find any reference to this study in medical literature. I suspect that the moment the journal it was submitted to accepted the paper, a publicist was on the phone with the press. Accordingly, the media story is in the hands of the public before the peer reviewed article is.

    Just another case of wait and see. I hope for the best, but don't expect it (sorry guys).

    Ciao, C.Sc.

  9. Boron/Neutron vs. Actinium by chrisserwin · · Score: 3, Informative

    It seems like a lot of the harmful side effects come from using actinium-225, which self-decays, not necessarily waiting until it has accumulated in it's targeted host. I wonder if they could use boron instead, which is fairly inert, and a beam of neutrons to accomplish the same task.

    Back in my college co-op days, I worked at the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory in Reactor Design. Down the hall they were doing brain tumor studies on rats treated with a technique called BNCT: Boron Neutron Capture Therapy. The theory was to inject a water soluble boron compound into the body. Water soluble molecules do not pass well through the "blood-brain barrier", therefore, will not easily pass into healthy nerve cells. They do, however, accumulate in cancer tissues. Boron is nice because it is fairly inert until it interacts with neutrons and breaks down into alpha particles and non-threatening elements. So the theory was that the Boron would accumulate in the tumors and they could then bombard the tumor with neutrons, producing an explosion of alpha radiation... no more tumor. I didn't work on this project, and I'm not sure what became of it.... I think this technique may be used in other countries.

    I think the nice thing about the current technique is the ability to target specific proteins. I wonder if a boron/neutron might have an additional advantage - unlike actinium which would decay over time (like the oven on "warm", the boron approach would be more immediate. Think "broil".