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Purchasing Used High-End Storage Arrays?

sphealey asks: "I have an opportunity to purchase a used disk storage array in the terabyte class (which we need) originally manufactured by a leading vendor. The price is reasonable, and the seller is offering to provide installation and a 90-day warranty with the system. The unit appears to be complete and functioning. My question is, what are the pitfalls? And which are likely to occur?

"What I have considered so far:

  • Original vendor charges outrageous fee to license necessary client-side software.
  • Original vendor charges 're-entry fee' of some sort to place unit back on maintenance and support.
  • Shipping and installation nightmares are worse than the usual for this class of equipment, and there is no original vendor to turn to for assistance.
Do any Slashdotters have any experience in this area? Any success or failure stories in purchasing used big iron?"

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  1. Be careful on compatibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    For example, HP sells rebranded Metastor arrays (from LSI I think) but they cleverly replace the firmware with their own wonky HP load.

    This doesn't do anything good for the customer, in that it actually decreases the amount of control you have over the array.

    But it does something cool for the vendor (HP that is) because without the HP firmware the Metastor won't work perfectly with the (proprietary, closed-source) HP-UX disk management and monitoring utilities.

    Unscrupulous installers of non-HP Metastor arrays will turn off disk and fiber channel monitoring in HP-UX so as to prevent generating false errors... this also prevents detection of real errors, how 'bout that.

    Be wary, and get a written guarantee of compatibility up front if you can.

  2. If its... by Erk · · Score: 3, Informative

    EMC, then you're in trouble. EMC charges for the software like you mentioned, for both the Clariion and Symmetrix. That is how they make their money. And technically, if you have the opportunity to buy a used Sym, then it is a semi-illegal sale, since EMC is the only authorized person to resell a Sym. Once you buy it, you're stuck with it.

    Sun stuff is pretty good - all of the necessary software to use the array on a direct connect basis is available in the box. It's not pretty, but it works. You can config it using RaidUtil.

    HP would probably lean towards the EMC model more than the Sun model. Software is their big push. You might be able to get it config'd on a direct attached basis, but dunno about in a SAN w/o appropriate software.

    Compaq is the same as HP, but their stuff isn't as good.

    Netapp? They seem to be the most user-friendly when it comes to used equip.

    Just my $0.02.