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U.S. Shuts Down Somalia Internet Access

BrianGa writes: "This article reports that Somalia's only internet company and a key telecom company have been forced to close because the United States suspects them of terrorist links."

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  1. "Why do they hate us?" by melquiades · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I saw a long article on the cover of one of the news rags (Time or Newsweek; can't remember) asking "Why do they hate us?" They had a long, fairly historically informed argument about the breakup of the Ottoman empire, the controversy of the Israeli state, and the rise of fundamentalism. It was a pretty good analysis, but its basic undertone was "the Muslim world is angry and backward".

    There's a shorter answer to "Why do they hate us?" in this article about Somalia. I don't care how much our intelligence services swear that the ISP was run by terrorists -- it's just impossible not to read this as, "You primitive black people don't need the internet, and now we're smacking you down to size." When the US has "severely restricted international telephone lines and shut down vitally needed money transfer facilities", that sure sounds like an act of economic terrorism to me -- justified or not.

    Remember that when the US bombed that "nerve gas factory" in Somalia, we were never able to present any hard post-hoc evidence that it was not, as the Somalis claim, a medicine factory. Eventually, the Pentagon mostly kind of sort of admitted it was full of shit. "Oops, sorry! We'll be more careful next time!"

    "Why do they hate us?" Because we're a bunch of self-righteous bastards who think we can do whatever we want to the rest of the world.

    When we cut off the Somalis' access to medicine, phones, internet, and money transfer because of suspected terrorism, we have a responsibility to step in and make sure that those services get provided somehow -- otherwise we are not punishing terrorists, but creating them.

  2. Those who forget history. . . , etc by kfg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Historically it has only rarely been proven wise to simply trust the intelligence community. I'll bet on the swift and strong, thank you.

    I might also add that it is the first responsibility of every US citizen, indeed the *primary* responsibility, to trust nothing.

    Only the cynic is the "true" American and patriot. It is a structure of political *equals.* Indeed, in many repects the simple citizen is politically superior to the president himself. It is the citizens who chose him and the citizens who may dismiss him.

    He will be president for a maximum of 8 years. A citizen is a citizen for life. He must then protect his political interests for *life,* and the life of his decendents, not meerly a few years.

    The intelligence community is the place where the greatest *ememies* of the state reside.

    KFG

    KFG

  3. Re:Keep in mind, this is not a somalia company by Anonymous+DWord · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The US also provides worldwide GPS access, which they can take away at any time. That doesn't make it right. God forbid you're trying to do a job in any region even remotely close to terrorism. Basically what US foreign policy is saying is:
    • Don't be a terrorist
    • Don't harbour terrorists
    • Don't live in a country that harbours terrorists
    • Don't live NEAR a country that harbours terrorists
    • Don't try and contact anybody who lives in a country that harbours terrorists


    This is getting silly. The US harboured terrorists for 4 years before said terrorists blew up the WTC. What now, tanks in the streets?
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    "If he thinks he can hide and run from the United States and our allies, he's sorely mistaken." Bush on bin Laden
  4. Re:Money Transfers and terrorist links by istartedi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the short run the Somali immigrants will be hurt, but in the long run they are better off getting rid of Hawallas and getting a real banking system. If this encourages them to do that, it will, in the long run, be seen as one of the best things we could do for them. Why? Because the Hawalla charges ridiculous cuts just for transferring the money. It's somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 to as much as 15% according to an article I read in the Washington Post.

    This is really ironic when you consider that they are always getting on the case of the "Jewish conspirators" for charging "usery".

    These hawallas are "check cashing" fronts that bilk their own people, and they get what they deserve.

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    For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?