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Hydrogen Micro Turbine Only 4mm In Diameter

savaget writes: "Luc G. Frchette of the Columbia University Microsystem Engineering Laboratory has developed a 20W electrical generator powered by a hydrogen turbine just 4mm in diameter. For more details, read the Wired article or an older Popular Science article. The tiny generator is more efficient than any battery and is expected to find military and commercial uses including robotics." Imagine the uses ...

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  1. Re:First Power! by Hiro+Antagonist · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hydrogen is hardly a fossil fuel; it's abundant, and the combustion byproduct of hydrogen and oxygen (the two fuels used in this case) is none other than water. Pure water, at that.

    This is why hydrogen is being looked at so heavily as an "alternative" fuel source -- it's abundant, clean, and very inexpensive.

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  2. Re:How'd you figure that out? by leucadiadude · · Score: 5, Informative

    Umm, Hertz equals cycles(or rotations) per second.

    (2.4E+06RPM (Rotations / Minute) / (60 Seconds / Minute) == 40000 Hertz

    Or 40KHz

  3. Re:Compressed hydrogen... by leucadiadude · · Score: 5, Informative

    H2 in gaseous form is NOT explosive unless it's in a mixture with O2 where it is about 4% to 85% of the mixture. Pure H2 is perfectly safe. And even if the H2 tank ruptures there is not going to be enough H2 to do anything. It might burn for a second or two and thats about it, most likely not enough H2 mass there to really do any damage (beyond the device it's in). Certainly not enough to cause an explosive misture in a large enough volume of air to matter.

    And since this tank is gonna be small, it can be made really freakin tough. Think about how tough a good quality propane cigarette lighter tank is.

  4. For you engineering types by DaoudaW · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most micromotors demonstrated to date have simply succeeded to overcome the viscous drag on the rotor, leaving no power to drive other com-ponents and limiting their use for low-load actuation.

    Luc Frechette just published ASSESSMENT OF VISCOUS FLOWS IN HIGH-SPEED MICRO ROTATING MACHINERY FOR ENERGY CONVERSION APPLICATIONS in which he lays out the constraints of micro-motors and how he hopes to overcome them.

  5. Re:Compressed hydrogen... by JesseL · · Score: 3, Informative

    Liquid hydrogen is cold at 1 atmosphere of pressure. You can make it as hot as you want, if your container can handle the increased pressure.
    Gaseous hydrogen isn't really any more explosive than the butane in your lighter or the natural gas piped all over your house.

    You prefer children playing with toys powered by batteries that are packed with lithium, mercury, etc?

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  6. Re:First Power! by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative
    Burning H2 leaves you, surprise, water and heat.

    You wish. Actually, burning hydrogen in air generates some NOx emissions. Hydrogen in air is a complicated combustion system. NASA has been working on scramjet designs that burn hydrogen in air, so this problem is gettimg some attention. It's the subject of some big number-crunching simulations.

    If you want a totally clean burn, you have to burn hydrogen in pure oxygen.

  7. Re:so where do you plan to get your H2 from? by markmoss · · Score: 3, Informative

    You are wrong. A gas can be liquified by compression only below a certain temperature. For H2, that temperature is something like 20 or 30 kelvin. That's really, really cold, requiring quite special refrigeration equipment, and AFAIK that's not portable, or even movable without a large forklift. Rocket fuel tanks are cooled by venting off the evaporating gasses, and pumping more in until the hoses have to be unhooked just before ignition. (I don't know if they vacuum the escaping hydrogen back to the liquifier plant, or just let the wind carry it away and watch that the concentration doesn't reach the explosive level...)