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CA Court: Message Boards Are Opinions, Not Facts
Masem writes: "According to this Newsbytes story, a CA appeals court has issued a ruling that says that typical messages posted to internet message boards can not be considered as libel or slander, as they inheritently are framed as opinions and not as statements of fact. The case stems from rather negative comments posted by defendants about a computer reseller company on the internet; the company sued for libelous comments; lower courts did initially rule for the company, but the appeals court has overturned this. While not every message posted in a public forum is safe, the court's decision seems to convey that unless the message is framed as a form of fact, then any message posted to a public internet forum should be considered as opinion, and thus cannot be considered as a libelous comment."
This is a stupid article, if you ask me.
What if you post the fact that something is your opinion?
I think I may have just blown a synapse thinking of that one...
I'm a liar.
In the '70s and '80s, prostaglandin drugs were used to induce violent premature labor and delivery. When used alone, there was: "...a large complication rate (42.6%) is associated with its use. Few risks in obstetrics are more certain than that which occurs to a pregnant woman undergoing abortion after the 14th week of pregnancy." Duenhoelter & Grant, "Complications Following Prostaglandin F-2 Alpha Induced Mid-trimester Abortion." Jour. of OB & GYN, Sept. 1975
Because of these problems, the D&E or Dilatation & Evacuation method was developed and largely replaced the above. It involves the live dismemberment of the baby and piecemeal removal from below.
A pliers-like instrument is used because the baby's bones are calcified, as is the skull. There is no anesthetic for the baby. The abortionist inserts the instrument up into the uterus, seizes a leg or other part of the body, and, with a twisting motion, tears it from the baby's body. This is repeated again and again. The spine must be snapped, and the skull crushed to remove them. The nurse's job is to reassemble the body parts to be sure that all are removed.
an' dats a fact
"+1, Informative"...
sulli
RTFJ.
redundant!? what moderator on crack today?
Or that Slashdot is communism in electronic form, and I won't get sued either =) cuz it's my opinion.
Yesterday I got a message from an Saudi man, Osama.For obvious reasons I can't reveal the e-mail, or any other information for that matter, so don't bother me, okay? He said under Taliban ruling, he was as unhappy as the next guy. Now he dug his eniac out of the bunker he had hid it, and can freely post to internet to share his opinions with us. He promises that, had he known about how internet advanced, he would have never done what he did. Now he can discuss with us instead of suicidal terrorist attacks.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!
I hope they will allow you to see pages without user rankings. Google's current method of ranking by how much outside sites linked to a page is one of the best ways to keep results honest. Anything where a site owner can manipulate those results will inevitably skew those results.
What if I were to say here that, IMHO, I should be a fact that Cowboy Neal is a porno fag?
Is that an opinion or a statement?
I vehemenently refute this libelous attack on my character. Rest assured, I will be contacting my lawyer regarding this matter
attach him to some rope. ;)
Of course other people do that too. I'd bet that at least 50% of the posts that say stuff like "mod this up!" or are overly enthusiastic about a parent post are done by the same person using this technique. I'm not talking about the compulsive lamer trolls either.
Then you run across the people using multiple accounts (all with high karma) who will fuck with your head. Different posters, same guy. We're the real trolls on slashdot, because we don't just spout out bullshit like "hot grits poured in my goat hole, Natalie!" No, we actually manipulate the minds of many (MANY!) people. I would give you some examples from my own mindfucking sprees, but then I would reveal myselves and it'd spoil all the fun.
However, most of the slashdot illuminati are at least smart enough to preview their posts and never *never* post a fuckup like the guy above.
Can't spell, either: they are NOT final because they are rigft
Yeah well they still haven't taken down my "David B. Scennman is a fat fag with 5 cocks in his ass" page yet. It tells his home address, phone number, has photo's of him, and I always update it telling exactly what he's doing. Anyone who wants it taken down is a large fat gay stupid motherfucker shithead that should go rot in a dungeon being assfucked by 3 constipated men all night long every day of the year for eternity!!!!!
IMHO, I think the following is a bunch incomprehensible drivel.
... not a body".
OT III
[Operating Thetan Level 3]
BODY THETANS
by L. Ron Hubbard®
The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger
stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very space
opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet - 178
billion on average) by mass implanting..
He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb
on the principal volcanos (incident II) and then the Pacific area
ones were taken - in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to
Las Palmas and there "packaged".
His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various
misleading data by means of circuits etc was placed in the
unplants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the
people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an
electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The
place (Confederation) has since been a desert.
The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc)
anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been
dispensed with by my tech development. One can freewheel through the
implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The
"freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc
and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and
not plow around and fail to complete one thetan at a time.
In December 1967 1 know someone had to take the plunge. I
did and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only
one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data now,
but only that given here is needful.
One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself
or to the body.
One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I.
It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing.
You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some
large, some small.
Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error.
Good luck.
* * *
For the purpose of clarity, by BODY THETAN is meant a thetan
who is stuck to another thetan or body but is not in control.
A THETAN is, of course, a Scientology word using the Greek
theta which was the Greek symbol for thought or life. An
individual being such as a man is a thetan, he is not a body and
he does not think because he has a brain.
A CLUSTER is a group of body thetans crushed or hold together
by some mutual bad experience.
---------- Character of Body Thetans
Body Thetans are just Thetans. When you get rid of one he
goes off and possibly squares around, picks up a body or admires
daisies. He is in fact a sort of cleared Being. He cannot fail
to eventually, if not at once, regain many abilities. Many have been asleep for the last 75,000,000 years. A body Thetan responds
to any process any Thetan responds to.
Some body Thetans are suppressive. A suppressive is out of
valence in R6. He is in valence in Incident I almost always.
One can't run a human being on these two incidents since
human beings are composites and would not be able to run the lot.
Aside from that, non-clears are way below awareness required to
even find these Incidents.
Huge amounts of charge have already been removed from the
case and the body thetans by Clearing and OT I and OT II to say
nothing of engrams and lower grades.
Awareness is proportional to the charge removed from the
case.
Although a human is a composite being there is only one I
(that is you) who runs things.
Body thetans just hold one back.
You will continue to be you. You, inside, can of course
separate out body thetans and so solo auditing is the answer. How
good do you have to be to run body thetans off? Well, if you
didn't skip your grades, Clearing and OT II particularly, you.
should be able to'command body thetans easily.
* * *
Incident II is over 36 days long. Capture on other planets
was weeks or months before the implant. Those on Teegeeack
(Earth) were just blown up except for Loyal officers who were
(shortly before the explosion on Earth) rounded up.
Do not scan through the duration of 36 days. The volcanic
explosion on Earth to the point where "the pilot" says he is
mocking it up is only a few days.
Sequence of Incident II for thetans on another planet -
Capture (being shot),
freezing,
transport to Teegeeack (sometimes via a relay point),
being placed near a volcano,
beginning implant up to "the pilot",
various picture sequences,,
the 7s and C.C. and OT II materials,
36 days of picture implants which give a vast array of
materials and three explanations for the bombing,
transport to Hawaii or Las Palmas for packaging up into
clusters.
The pictures contain God, the Devil, angels, space opera,
theaters, helicopters, a constant spinning, a spinning dancer,
trains and various scenes very like modern England. You name it,
it's in this implant we call in its entirely "R6"-
if one was a Loyal Officer on Teegeeack, the sequence was (1)
capture (2) number 5 above on. If one was a citizen of Teegeeack
there was only number 5 on.
The material given at the various "volcanos' was longer or
shorter, but dovetailed into the same sequence of pictures. We
have the whole text but it is needless.
People who feel dizzy have gotten into the spinning part.
Incident I occurred about 4 quadrillion years ago plus or
minus. it is very much earlier than Incident II which occurred
only 75 million years ago (a bit less).
Incident II is only peculiar and general on this planet and
nearby stars, whereas Incident I is to be found on all thetans.
---------- The Basic on BT's
I've isolated a way a thetan comes to be stuck to another
thetan. This gives the basis of clusters and having BT's.
A thetan collides with another. That one makes a picture of
being collided with. Other BT's get stuck to the picture.
The moment of actual contact of thetans was brief but the
picture (containing a stop or withdraw) tends to be permanent.
Thetans then get the idea they can be permanently stuck as
they see pictures of it happening.
Thus we get the concept of a "black theta body". This would
be actual BT's stuck to a thetan plus pictures of BT's stuck to a
thetan.
An answer to all this is to find the first picture a thetan
made of contacting another thetan.
If not at once available the earliest instance of a thetan
contacting (colliding, running into, attacking) another thetan
could be achieved by R3R on being suddenly hit with clusters or
strange beings.
The idea is to find and run the "first picture" one made of
another thetan.
This opens another way to "blow off" BT'S - run R3R on a BT
to the first picture the BT ever made of another thetan.
---------- Instructions
Locate by meter read or an area of pressure, a body thetan or
group (cluster). Run Incident II. If the BT does not blow off or
'the group break up and blow, then run Incident I on individual
BT's. Each will blow off with an FIN.
When you can find no more on which to run Incident I's, once
wore locate a pressure area or by meter read on looking over body
run another Incident II. Then Incident 1's on any.
Incident II made clusters of BT's. Severe impacts and
experiences ALSO make clusters. (See the data called "Milazzo" in
this pack.) Those who do not leave on running the impact or its
chain will leave when Incident I Is run on them.
Incident II sometimes forms gigantic clusters. In such there
is a leader, an alternate leader and several (eight to eighteen)
more. These were all implanted in different volcanic areas with
fractions of the nain 36 day implant and then "packaged" in Las
Palmas or Hawaii. Thus if you run Incident II as far as "the
pilot" it blows up or loosens up and those who don't go away can
be run on Incident I's.
Do not speak your commands. Just "intend" them. A BT
controls easily. BT's can be ARC broken by rough or careless
auditing. You can also run an incident II on a BT and he doesn't
blow, but you accidentally run in Incident I on another one and leave the first still there. The remedy is to run Incident I's on
anything you find.
A very SP BT can be run on grades and Power and should then
respond to Incident II and Incident I.
After a BT leaves, some other BT may copy him or the incident
just run.
If you have found a cluster (pressure area) that does not
respond or disintegrate to Incident II running, get Dianetic
auditing, listing "What impact or incident would cause a cluster?"
and R3R on the items found. Then do more Incident I's to clean up the strays with solo. This is a refined "Milazzo".
There are hundreds of BT's you will find.
If you find none, get audited on Dianetics in general and as
above (impact list), and if you still find none, get a Review GF40
and handle all items, then go back to solo.
If you find only one or two, get the Dianetic impact list.
done. All "none on OT III" cases were later found loaded.
Do Incident II and Incident I's on what you can find to begin
with. You will do fine. Good hunting.
Certain "buttons" have to be gotten in where running a thetan
through incidents. The EFFORT TO STOP the motion hangs up the
action and gives a stuck picture. One gets the EFFORT TO STOP off
and the scene races through.
The EFFORT TO WITHDRAW is important also and hangs up the
action and creates a vacuum.
RUSH, PROTEST* NOT-IS, SUPPRESS are also present.
These were actions - thoughts - the thetan had during the
Incident and are picked up only when the incident doesn't run
well. Sometimes two "buttons" such as STOP and WITHDRAW are in
combination.
Thetans in the body may obsessively copy the pictures of
other thetans. Therefore you can find it seems that the thetan
who just left is still there because there is a picture left.
Spot the fact that someone else copied it and it usually goes.
If you do an S & D on a body thetan be sure you give the
right item to the right thetan.
---------- Cross Auditing
When one runs Incident I out of one thetan and then Incident
11 out of another (thinking it was the first one) one can get a
partially run body thetan who won't blow, but who may start to go
on through the whole of R6 automatically (since the basic-basic
Incident I is not run, yet Incident II is). One can get quite ill
doing this as the illness in R6 can turn on.
One can also "feel no wish to audit". All "no desire to
audit" is some large blunder on a case.
The way you can run Incident I out of one thetan and Incident
11 out of another is rather easy. one fails to notice the first
one blow on having Incident I run and runs Incident 11 on another.
As a matter of data, the only trouble in a III OT run is
running an Incident I on one thetan and an Incident II on another,
thinking it was the first one. A pre-OT can freewheel into R6 if
you run only an incident II. You can stop a freewheel at once by running Incident I off the same thetan you ran the Incident II on
that started a freewheel.
Freewheel means that the PC goes on automatic continuous run.
Incident II is R6 75,000,000 years ago. Incident I is about 4
quadrillion years ago. Both, all thetans on this planet and 21
nearby stars have in common. All thetans in the universe have incident I. Only those in this old Confederation have Incident II
and R6. All C.C. and OT II materials are in R6 75,000,000 years
ago. These are followed by 36 days worth of motion pictures -
God, Devil, space opera, trains, cars, helicopters, crashes,
stage etc. This R6 is 75,000,000 years ago and this planet and Confederation.
If the volcano bit is run as per III directions but the Incident I
Is not run on the same thetan, R6 begins to run off on automatic,
the Being can't sleep for days, the body dies. That's the way it
was designed.
---------- Overrun on III
The only way you can get a read on "Overrun on III" is to
have accidentally run Incident I out, and then later run it out
again on the same thetan or make a similar blunder. Example: One
flattens Incident I by several passes on a body thetan. This body
thetan for some reason (mostly because Incident 11 was then not
run) does not fly off. Then, not noticing, one again finds the
same thetan and once more seeks to run Incident 1. One then gets,
in answer to the question "Overrun on III?" a lot of reads and
overrun phenomena.
The remedy is to find out WHO was overrun and get the charge
off by that action.
One then runs Incident 11 on that thetan or in any event, by
getting off the charge of "overrun", letting the thetan depart.
Just because one's meter reads "Overrun an III" is no reason
to attest. Find out who was. lt's almost always a body thetan.
A BT can be overrun past erasure. This fact sometimes causes
a solo auditor to believe OT Ill is overrun.
If he asks "Is OT III overrun?" he may get a read and blowdown. This is actually usually just one BT or cluster that is
overrun. The remedy is discovering and indicating the point of
overrun. And carry on with OT III.
---------- Running OT III
When running OT III the solo auditor handles body thetans as
he would any other PC, for the general idea is to run them
standardly and not ARC Break them. He does not scan through
anything in order to find body thetans.
When a solo auditor can find no more body thetans he can
attest, or run a pressure area down and handle as per his running
Instructions.
The pre-OT could be exterior and the Interiorization
processes can be run in Review to help him through.
Here are three reasons why a pre-OT might have trouble whilst
running BT's on Incident II -
(1) It is the wrong area;
(2) it is not the volcano of the BT being run;
(3) it is not an Incident II, but another incident of a
different date.
Check (1) and (2) If you are having any difficulty in running
Incident 11 and handle by locating the correct area or finding the
volcano of the BT being run. if it is not a II, simply check for
the date and if different run it-.
---------- OT III Errors
Amongst OT III errors are "a BT run on Incident I fails to
blow". There are three reasons:
Auditor is trying to run a cluster with an Incident I.
The right thing to do is date and get the character of
the incident that made it a cluster and then run Incident Its on those left when it breaks up. Or get
Dianetic auditing.
There is an earlier Incident I on the same BT. Find it
and run it. The BT has a chain of them all by himself.
Another BT is copying the Incident I just run so it
looks like it didn't blow. Failure to ever run Incident
I can also cause a bog. Routine Dianetic auditing by a
Dianetic HDC who is also on or above OT III using triple
flows and LDN OT III also handles bogged OT III pre-
OT's.
---------- Cluster Formation - Cumulative
In doing a cluster one is likely to find it is made up of
other earlier clusters. This looks like this. 1898 impact horse
accident. When engram 1898 run on R3R, that part blows. No F/N
occurs, TA remains up. Remainder will grind after the blow. Earlier portion dates as 93,000,000 years ago, electric shock.
When run on R3R, that part blows, no FIN. TA remains up, will
grind if run further. Earliest portion dares as 72 trillion
implant. When run on R3R, all blow, FIN.
A cluster or engram which is a cluster can repeatedly FIN as
BT's blow. Dates as 778 million explosion. After run once or
twice an FIN occurs as one BT blows. Run again to second FIN as
two more BT's blow. Remainder blow with a wider FIN. The cluster
has gone. This happens (repeating FIN) when picture persists and
noter check reveals it is not a copy. It will be more BT's in
same cluster. So above repeating FIN occurs when pre-OT is moved
through it. Clusters are found by meter dating, listing for type
of incident and run as an engram. Clusters can occur at Incident
.II and Incident I. They can also occur at 1 quadrillion, which is
the Clearing course materials. They also occur at random dates
for different reasons.
* * *
I have lately been C/Sing a number of failed OT cases and
have found them all running well on solo now. The errors are made
as follows:
The solo auditor cannot audit, needs more training.
Cases are not well prepared with Dianetics.
The remedy for all of these is to:
Run the PC for at least a score or two of Dianetic
items by R3R, done of course by a good HDC,
then do a GF 40.
And then repeat it until necessary auditing is complete. These
two actions take care of the majority of difficult cases on OT
The real End Phenomena of OT III and OT IV is exterior with
full perception. You can and should accomplish full stable
exteriorization on doing the materials of III.
---------- Further III remedies:
High TA. This comes from not completing the Incidents
I and II on body thetans.
The solo auditor puts too wide an intention on the BT
and runs two or three when he is intending to run only
one.
A cluster just won't break up. The remedy is a Dianetic
session listing for impacts or incidents that would
cause a cluster and doing R3R. The principle of earlier similar holds good. When this is completed, the solo
auditor is sent back to solo to clean up the BT's shaken
loose and to continue with OT III.
Rudiments go out on BT's. The remedy of course is to
locate BT's who have out-ruds, put in the ruds and run
Incident 1, at which the ST should leave.
A theta-bopping meter sometimes puzzles a solo auditor
-on OT Ill. This means a BT is trying to exteriorize and
can't. The remedy is to complete the partially run Incident 11 or Incident I or in extreme cages put the
ruds in on the hung up BT.
One-hand electrode giving wrong TA read baffling the
solo auditor with floating needles with a high TA. The
remedy is to have two-hand electrodes handy and trim the
trim knob so the one-hand electrode reads the same as
two-hand electrodes.
A suppressive body thetan sometimes isn't auditable.
The remedy is to run Grades IV or V on him.
By far and large the corniest error and which has been
very prevalent is not knowing the materials of OT III or
the content of Incident II or Incident I.
OT III is a vital grade. One fronts up to it and does it. When
he is really done, the rewards of OT III and IV exceed his wildest
dreams.
---------- Rudiments Going Out On BT's
When the ruds go out on BT's during the session the solo
auditor recognizes the following:
BT critical - withhold from auditor
BT antagonistic - bypassed charge in session
No TA problem
BT sad ARC Break
Soaring TA - Overrun or protest (also more than one BT being
run in error or it's a cluster)
Auditor tired - no sleep or incomplete Incident I's
Auditor dope-off - bypassed FIN or not enough sleep
Auditor no-interest - out ruds on BT's
A solo auditor who isn't sure what it is, but runs into
trouble with a BT is smart to end off the session quickly, write
down the full observation and get it to the C/S. The solo auditor
who knows what he is looking at as per the above scale (and the
C/S the C/S would give), handles it promptly.
BT critical = w/h = pull the withhold
BT antagonistic = BPC assess proper list (such as LlC) and
handle
No TA (or case gain) problem = locate the problem and handle
BT sad = ARC Break - locate and handle itsa E/S itsa
Soaring Ta = C/R or protest (also more than one BT being run
in error or it's a cluster) - find which and handle
(running more than the one intended comes from too wide
an intention)
Auditor tired = no sleep or incomplete Incident I's = check
which it is and handle
Auditor dope-off = lack of sleep or bypassed F/N = check On
sleep or rehabilitate F/N
Auditor no-interest = out-ruds on BT's = put in ruds.
---------- OT III Auditing
OT III pre-OT's got a reputation of being hard to run on
Dianetics early on in Dianetic re-development. Only five reasons
exist for this.
A person that high on OT grades audits fast and a comm-
laggy Dianetic auditor can drive him up the wall.
Too quiet or too blurred TR 1.
A tendency to evaluate instead of using TR 4.
The numerousness of BT chains on the same item (the BT's
being separated now) making several chains on the same
item, which if not all run separately leave the PC ARC
Broken with the bypassed charge of unrun BT's.
The OT II who is still on OT III and has been on it a
while probably himself has no pictures and all the
pictures he has are BT pictures.
The lower grades PC (before Clear) reacts as a composite
Being, all on one chain, so to speak. He is separated into
himself and the individual BT's and clusters of them when he gets
to OT II, and so audits differently. He easily misowns the pictures thinking they are his. The big blowdowns you get on such
a PC's item indicates several BT's have it in common. A solo III
however will be found to have the same item on more than one BT in
many cases.
* * *
The reason for low TA is unflat OT III phenomena. If a
person has had a low TA in lower grades the keynote is to take it
easy as auditor and COS. This applies also to any auditing given
on upper OT levels.
That a PC's TA goes below 2.0 is a certain indicator of
unflat OT III. He's still got some. When a person cannot handle
OT III he is too much at effect. He cannot project his intention.
And so can't run OT III. The new OT I and OT II, particularly OT
II, are designed to increase a PC's ability to project his
intention to others. If he can't, they overwhelm him and you get
low TA or "none on III". Harsh, overbearing auditing or life.
incidents have to occur, apparently, to drive the TA down.
Overts, disagreements expressed as obsessive agreement and
other lower level matters are at the bottom of this in any Being.
But any case of low TA I have ever found has been:
overwhelmed in life;
unable to project intention;
physically inactive;
loaded with BT's;
tends to go out of valence easily.
in all this number (4) is the important point.
Endless OT III and low TA are alike - inability to project
Intention, PC at effect. Remedy by lightly causing PC to come to
cause, to be able to project his intention and thus flatten OT
III. That will complete and finish off low TA.
* * *
It does not matter whether or not you ran Incident I and II
on self. The End Phenomena of III is getting rid of all body
thetans. This does not necessarily include self. If you overrun
Ill it will be by trying to get rid of tore body thetans than
there were or by then, having gotten rid of the others, starting
In on self. So Ill is complete for purposes of overrun as above.
If you have not done Incident I and II on self when above is
achieved, attest completion and then do I and 11 on self.
EP's No BT's left [End Product: no BodyThetans left] - OT III
L.RONHUBBARD®
FOUNDER
Some abbreviations:
BT - BodyThetan
Incident One - The first incident on the Whole Track (see) for each Thetan
(see). It consisted of an Angel blowing a trumpet and some noises. Hubbard
explained that this was so powerful that from then on the Thetan compulsively
continued recording every incident that happened over 4 quadrillion years until
now.
Incident Two - The second major incident on the Whole Track (see).
Rud - Rudiment.
SP - Suppressive Person. A critic of Scientology. Fe anyone who thinks that OT 3
is nonsense.
TA - Tone Arm action - change of electrical resistance, supposed to show relief
of emotional "charge" on the 'E-meter' (crude lie detector, price ~$4,000)
Thetan - "An individual being
This is Scientology's name for the soul or spirit.
Valence - An adopted personality.
Whole Track - The mental recording of all of the experience of the Thetan
(see). Hubbard said that the Whole Track was 4 quadrillion years long.
Eventually Thetans became the victims of their recordings and became
entrapped (via the mechanism of the "Bank"). Hubbard claimed that only through
Scientology could this compulsive recording of incidents stop.
Is that anything like a barroom brawl?
I am impressed by everyones omniscience, too bad y'all can't agree
you've convinced me! i was going to buy a ford, but after seeing what you have to say -- no friggin' way!
tom brokaw
Catch-22: an infinite doo loop
I am impressed by everyones omniscience, too bad y'all can't agree
Grue ot toast: ?
I am impressed by everyones omniscience, too bad y'all can't agree
I am not responsible for anything I say
I am impressed by everyones omniscience, too bad y'all can't agree
Damn!
I am not responsible for anything I say
Obviously!
I am impressed by everyones omniscience, too bad y'all can't agree
Damn! How do you get the tag to show?
I am impressed by everyones omniscience, too bad y'all can't agree
No, see, what you should have said was:
True or false - this post is a lie.
Sheesh... Flaimbait? I was being ironic...