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Star Trek: Nemesis Gets the Go Signal
PatJensen writes "Star Trek TNG: Nemesis, the 10th Star Trek movie gets the green light from Paramount today. It will be directed by Stuart Baird, who did Executive Decision, US Marshals and Tomb Raider. Looks to be pretty action packed. Digital Domain
(LOTR, Titanic) will be doing the SFX. The movie seems to be based around Romulan conflict with the Federation. " Can't be as bad as Insurrection. At least, I hope not. BTW the first movie is out on DVD now and they did a pretty good job with the re-release.
I beg to differ. Insurrection was very good. It made sense. It was entertaining. And watching Data's head float around was cool :-)
If you want a bad recent ST movie, try First Contact. Absolutely destroyed the Borg mythos in one fell swoop.
Plus, he played for EFF on The Weakest Link!
...that if they're bringing Janeway and Wesley in (now, if the rumours are true, why did they make her an admiral so soon?), and considering TPTB apparently want to do something to permit the Data character to exit, why not bring in some other characters for further closure and whatnot?
Like, why not bring back Chief O'Brien? He was part of TNG, too, like Wesley. And then, if this is really the last TNG-cast movie and if TPTB want to keep a Trek movie franchise, why not bring back, say, Lt. Nog, and some other cast members from DS9 and/or VOY?
(Yes, Nog made it to Lt. Watch the DS9 finale again.)
For future movies, why not create a composite cast, like "the best of" from DS9, VOY, even the ones from TNG that want to stick around?
As long as they don't turn the franchise into "The crazy adventures of Grand Negas Rom", I'll be happy.
Speaking of Hugh, what ever happened to that borg computer virus that was created when they captured Hugh? That's just the sort of thing I would think Star Fleet would put somewhere in the datastores of every federation ship. "Just in case you're trapped 70,000 light years in the Delta quadrant and surrounded by a few hundred Borg cubes, use this."
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let's run them down, shall we? plot writeups and ratings by leonard maltin, quoted from IMDB.
looks pretty random to me.
-samburn the computers. go back to the abacus.
C'mon...let's not beat up on Insurrection. First of all, most people who go to see Star Trek films are a self-selected audience. We'll go see any Star Trek movie because it's as obligatory as filing your taxes every year. Anything after First Contact that didn't have as much action was bound to get criticized, and Insurrection centered around a theme that has produced some of the best episodes of TNG, "something rotten in the federation". Just my opinion.
It is, indeed, much better. What Robert Wise was forced to release in the 70s was infact a rough cut. Now he's had a chance to go back and finish it, and it really shows. And what other movie these days has the guts to have a several minute musical overture before even the title card comes up?
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Yes, it's random if you listen to Leonard Maltin (a particularly poor movie critic). But if you ask the average Star Trek fan, they'll tell you that the Wrath of Khan was a LOT better than The Motion Picture (most of my friends can't sit through ST:1, but we all love ST:2), that The Voyage Home was MUCH more fun to watch than The Search for Spock, and that the Undiscovered Country was a heads and shoulders above The Final Frontier. I don't even understand how Maltin can put these movies so close together in their ratings - 2, 4, and 6 really captured the feel of the original series, with camraderie and action, while 1, 3, and 5, were like stupid versions of the Next Generation, trying to be intelligent but completely failing.
Capt. Kirk (Shatner) passes the baton to a new Starfleet commander, Capt. Picard (Stewart).
That scene sucked. In Star Trek V, he said he knew he would die alone. Checking "Generations" again . . . nope, Picard was standing right there when he died.
Then Shatner has to go and write some stupid books about it, bring Kirk back to life after "Generations" took place, then "die alone" (as he was supposed to) while having the arrogance to destroy the entire Borg collective, then writing another book after "Insurrection", bring back Kirk AGAIN, and saying "no, I didn't destroy the Borg, that was just a small section of the collective". Uggg.
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Actually, the correct formula for determining whether a Star Trek movie is good or bad was flushed out by Brunching Shuttlecocks in their review of Insurrection. Obviously, it's too long to repost here, but is highly accurate (or at least will at least make you smile).
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Did anyone see Trekkies? Isn't Nemesis the brain child of one of the kids from Trekkies? I recall he wrote part of it and did a ton of cgi scenes on his home computer.
LeVar Burton also seems to be directing his fair share of the new Enterprise series as well.
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He wrote, "Star Trek is the McDonalds of science fiction." Sometimes filling, sometimes good in a pinch, sometimes what you're looking for, but never quite good.My guess is that this new Star Trek will suck, not because of the director or the tired old franchise, but because even the best Star Trek tends to be marginal.I think it is interesting that we now live in a world where the original themes of Star Trek are considered so obvious that they are cliches: we should all get along, maybe we shouldn't screw around with other cultures, 'stun' is better than 'kill,' etc. Back during the original run, these were revolutionary concepts. Now, they're commonplace. Star Trek lost any sort of social relevance decades ago and now solely exists to validate pathetic fan fantasies. It's about hardware and in-jokes.Q says in the final episode of the Next Generation: "That's the exploration that awaits you. . .not mapping stars and studying nebulae. . .but charting the unknowable possibilities of existence." Good mission statement for a real science fiction series. Too bad Star Trek rarely lives up to it. Too busy selling toys, I guess.Star Trek to me is like giving a child a toy and watching as he plays with the box.
More proof that Maltin's reviews are worthless. My ranking of the Star Trek movies:
My TOS bias really comes out here, although I found FC to be a very entertaining film. It was the most accessable of the TNG based films for non-TNG fans.
Generations was a rotten TV episode translated to the big screen. The plot was weak, the script was worse (coudln't they rewrite the opening scene after Nimoy and Kelly took a pass on this piece of shit), assumed the audience had seen every episode of TNG (who were the Klingon chicks with the tits?), and killed Kirk off in a rather lame manner. I had no problem with the man dying, but he desrved better.
I would have ranked Generations dead last, but
Shatner did his best to do his worst.
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It's a documentary about star trtek fans. Anyone who has seen it will remember and recognize a particular trekkie who was creating his own star trek movie called "Nemisis". This was quite a while ago, and the movie, I believe, was supposed to be about a star station, but what impressed me was the detail he and his crew put into designing their movie. Now, I would have written this incident off as coincidence if not for the information I just recently aquired, which is that this particular trekkie was seen on an episode of drew carrey. Now, this isn't exactly a "big holywood break", but I can't help but wonder if they're using any of his ideas in this new movie. Does anyone have any information about this?
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I missed this the last time he did it, so I'm glad to get another opportunity to see him perform.
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Why does /. give Star Wars its own topic but not STar Trek? Slashdotters probably waste^B^B^B^B^B spend far more person-hours watching Star Trek than watching Star Wars. Don't get me wrong... I love them both. It just seems to me that there is more discussion here about Star Trek than about many topics that get their own, um, topic.
You wrote:
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Directed by Frakes.
Story and executive production by Nimoy.
Keep Shatner the heck away from the set.
Keep it fast and not too much dialog.
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This is exactly how Hollywood works. Early in the series of movies, Paramount called in Harlan Ellison and said to him "listen, we make $10 million of a Star Trek movie, and we make $10 Million on a Eddie Murphy movie. So write us a Star Trek Movie with Eddie Murphy in it and we'll make $20 miilion!"
No joke.
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