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Treó 10: Another Portable Mass Storage Device
mblase writes: ""The Treó 10 is a lightweight, pocket-sized, digital music jukebox with the capacity to store over 3,000 songs - that's 150 hours of music." It's got twice the hard-drive space of Apple's iPod, but also half the RAM, half the battery life, and uses a much slower USB connection instead of FireWire. However, it's PC-compatible using MusicMatch Jukebox right out of the box, and costs only $250 instead of $400 for the iPod. CNet's article compares the two further."
Archos, http://www.archos.com, has been in the game for awhile now. They have a handy 20-gig Jukebox Studio 20 MP3 Player & Hard Drive, http://www.archos.com/us/products/product_500205.h tml, that dare I say rocks. Still uses USB, but it nice to not only carry your MP3 collection around, but also have a handy transport for all your big files.
I have the Jukebox 6000 now, but I am hoping that St. Nick will remember my letter and hook me up with a Studio.
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the other is tee - ar - ee - 'oh with an accent.'
both are registered with upto, 'parently.
So is there any legal overlap between the Treo that is a handheld PDA/phone (which could potentially end up with an mp3 attachment) and the Treo that is a handheld mp3 player? The former has an accent over the 'e' whereas the latter's is on the 'o'.
No. As hard as it is to understand for people who only know English, accents really matter -- they aren't just there for show -- there are words in many languages that only differ by an accent.
There is a huge difference. USB approximately 1.2 Mb/sec, USB 2.0 approx 50 Mb/sec IIRC.
It doesn't say, so its probably not USB 2.0. You would say it if it had it.
That means it will be slow to transfer the files, but not a disaster to do so.
Michael
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with the capacity to store over 3,000 songs - that's 150 hours of music
First, thank you for the story. But I'm going to plead to audio-device story submitters now: For god's sake, when posting the story to Slashdot, please talk to your fellow geeks in geek-speak, not copy-and-pasted condescending marketing terms. I can get that from CNET or MSN or my local news anchor. 3,000 songs? 150 hours? Based on what bitrate? How big is this compared to a PC hard drive? Will this store my existing collection that takes N gigs? Obviously, we can find the real specs if we hit the company's website, but do us a favor and give us the geeky bits when submitting the story.
FWIW, this Treo has a 10 gig drive, so I guess the 3,000 song figure is based on approx 3.3 megs per song. (Kind of low, really.) The 150 hour figure is apparently based on something between 128 and 160 kbps.
Okay, end of rant. Cool device.
10GB=8.589935e+10 bits (assuming they're using 1024MB/GB not 100 to inflate the numbers). USB=12mbps=1.258291e+07bits/sec. Assuming this device completely saturates the USB port (it won't), that will take (8.59e+10)/(1.26e+07)=6826.668 seconds=1.89 hours. That seems like a long time to me. the iPod downloads its 5 gigs (yes, only 5, not 10) in ten minutes or so. Yeah, it's $150 more, but that's a big time difference
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I love my iPod too. Now that I have iPod Free File Access (freeware) the one big problem, that you can't transfer songs iPod->Mac, is solved - and the sound quality is very nice (though a little quiet in the car via a tape adapter), and the capacity, battery life, and form factor kick ass. Buy one if you have a Mac with Firewire, you won't regret it.
sulli
RTFJ.
FireWire 1 is 400 Mbps, FireWire 2 is 800 Mbps.
Geez people. 10 gig Treo??? 6 gig IPod???? Please people. Are you kidding me???? Get the freakin Archos 20 gig for only $330 at www.thinkgeek.com right now! Don't complain that it's only USB either. Yes USB is quite a bit slower than Firewire but please, it's not like your gonna suddenly decide to copy 10 gigs of music to your Archos all the sudden. I can't believe some people would actually sacrifice 300% more space just so the transfer speeds are faster.....IPod = dumb. 6 gigs is chunk change. And it's more expensive??!?? ha! My archos ownz the Ipod. Who cares how fast I can copy my 10 songs to my mp3 players. As long as it's not forever :)
Jakobud
You're off by an order of magnitude or so. USB 1.x is 12Mbps, USB 2.0 is 480Mbps.
Check it out.
It says USB 1.1 on the spec page for their "generic" version.