Email Turns Thirty

milquetoast writes: "The NYTimes has an article on e-mail's 30th birthday. where would we be without it?" Wearing out a lot fewer delete keys, that's where. The NYT also has an interview with Tomlinson, and a speculative article suggesting email will kill the fax machine (not any time soon). Tomlinson may think he gets a lot of email, but he doesn't.

Comments

Email must be royal

[wangi]

Email must be royal since is has two birthdays a year...

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/02/011122 8

Hi, how are you?

[mini me]

I send you this message to in order to wish you a Happy Birthday.

<<Happy Birthday.exe>>

On the next day...

[ackthpt]

On the next day, Spam probably turns thirty, too.

To: Watson@bell.net
From: Alex@bell.net
Subj: You could be a millionaire next week!

...

clever little hack

[wiredog]

That's how the Times describes it, as a "clever little hack".

But isn't hacking a Bad Thing(TM)?

To celebrate the birthday of email:

[oni]

In order to celebrate the 30th birthday of email, Microsoft has agreed to pay $1 to some little girl each and every time this email message is forwarded. But to qualify for this charity donation, you'll have to forward this message to at least 60 people as soon as you get it.

Re:Spam's Birthday?

[CaptainZapp]

So does this mean that spam turns 30 tomorrow?

Nope, spam started in the early / middle nineties, when two lawyers (Cantor/Siegel) spammed hundreds of newsgroups, in order to sell their lawyerly immigration services.

Needless to say, that the usenet community took a very dim view on the issue, and literally harrassed them off the net.

They later wrote a book (something around the line: "How to get rich quick by selling penis extension pills on the Internet").

E-mail spam followed shortly after.

Fax a Regressive Step

[iCharles]

I read an article a few years ago that postulated that fax was a regressive step. The thesis went something like this:

Back in the 80s (just before faxes became commonplace), America was on the brink of being able to go electronic--using such tools as EDI and other connection mechanisms. Since most of our business was in english (26 letters, 10 numbers, plus miscilanious punctuation)it would happen readily.

The Japanese, however, created cheaper/smaller/better fax machines than were available at the time. Makes perfect sense in that environment, as there are several orders of magnitude more characters to deal with (can't encode as easily).

The cheap and easy fax machine is shipped to the States, and were a hit. They allowed electronic-fast communication without having to significantly change how business was done (signitures could still be in ink, for instance). Further, it was, at the time, cheaper.

Had fax not come along, electronic means would have started to come in earlier. Business adoption of e-mail might have happened sooner, and some things necessary to facilitate business (that still doesn't really exist) such as digital signatures would develope more rapidly.

I submit the fax is still retarding growth. Need something signed--just fax it to me! For that reason, I don't think e-mail will ever completely displace the fax.

Of course, William Gibson wrote in the anthology _Cyberspace_ that no communication technology every dies--it merely finds niche uses.

Re:Fax a Regressive Step

[KjetilK]

Need something signed--just fax it to me! For that reason, I don't think e-mail will ever completely displace the fax.

Yeah, it's really funny. I remember back, well, I guess it is about ten years, I would get some money from my mother, and the way we did this, was that she sent a fax, signed, to her bank, and asked them to transfer a certain amount of money to my account.

No, she didn't.

In reality, she just gave me her oral approval. The fax itself was sent by me, using the home computer, the signature was something I had scanned and attached to the fax when it was submitted.

Well, we were all happy about it, because as I could do it, it saved my mother some work (of course I did it with her approval).

But, the funny thing is, if on a rare occasion I forgot to attach the signature, the fax would be returned, and the transaction would not be committed. But why did they insist on having the signature, the signature was real, OK, but it did not authenticate the origin of the fax. From that perspective, the signature was fake.

People need to realize that the good old signature doesn't mean anything, especially when digitized and transmitted through a fax machine. When that is realized, then we might go over to using digital signatures.

Look out for the ersatz intelligentsia

[Ars-Fartsica]

Here we go with all of the so-called insightful posters extolling the virtues of fax and the uselessness of email.

Well, my office has one thousand machines capable of sending and receiving email and one machine capable of sending and receiving faxes.

How many emails did you send this week? How many faxes?

How many of you give out your fax number to people you meet?

Emails sent daily outnumber faxes by at least a factor of one hundred thousand (conservatively estimating, likely as high as ten million). The conclusion is pretty simple.

Re:E-mail will not kill the fax machine

[odaiwai]

you do know that you can print pdfs?

dave

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Sorry, but FAX is still hulking along...

[Bonker]

Am I insane, or did Email already kill the fax machine? I get about 20 emails a day, and not one fax. btw, F1rst P0st!!! :-)

My God, a relevant FP?!?

Unfortuneately, E-mail has only killed FAX service in the tech sector. If you deal with any other business, FAX is still alive and strong, particularly in financial business.

I work for a financial organization in Texas. We have banks upon banks of fax machines that do nothing but do things like take credit-card applications and ATM account setup instructions.
Despite the fact that encrypted email would be significantly more secure and easier to process than the badly aging FAX protocol, the simple fact of the matter is that many "over 40" business types just don't trust email... in any form. Worse, they're unwilling to learn.

So, instead of having a single application that parses emails for relevant data and then dumps it into our DB, we pay a team of data processing kids to do the same thing, adding another layer of fallibility and error introduction to our system.

Sad, but true.

EZPass & Email :: The Connection

[ellem]

A few years back EZPass was introduced to NY. It took a while to catch on but now it is everywhere you can even get McDonald's with the damn thing. Two or three years ago someone figured out that a car on a toll road like a thruway could be tracked. Further they figured out, through the tracking, that cars weren't doing the speed limit and began issuing tickets based on time from point A to point B. The thought process being if you got there in this amount of time you averaged 85 MPH and if that was your average you were definitely going faster than that factoring accelerating and decelerating at the tolls so here's a ticket for 85 MPH; consider yourself lucky b/c we KNOW you were going faster than that.

The creator of EZPass complained loudly that this was not what he invented EZPass for, "I wanted to make people's drives easier! This is a gross misuse of the EZPass system."

NY State told him to shut up and poked him with a sharpened spork or something.

anylou...

I wonder if Tomlinson feels the same every time he gets spammed from www.asiananaldogrape.com or a script kiddie sends out some Outlook virus?

Re:Spam's Birthday?

[Radnor]

Here's some links for information on that legendary spam. I remember sitting down to read my newsgroups that day and seeing this message in _every_ newsgroup I subscribed to. It was strange to see such a thing back then!

http://www.skypoint.com/members/gimonca/usewar.htm l http://www.eff.org/pub/Intellectual_property/Legal /Cases/Canter_Siegel/

procmail's birthday

[Corgha]

Tomlinson may think he gets a lot of email, but he doesn't.

Speaking of which, tomorrow (December 7th) will be the 11th anniversary of procmail v1.00, so I decided to look at my procmail log to see how much mail I get. To steal a bit from Mastercard(tm):

[Over the past 90 days,]
Number of mailing lists to which I have been subscribed: 0
Number of messages I've received: 76,697
Bytes of email I've received: 14,517,916,565
Value of procmail: priceless

Actually, procmail is free, so if you don't have it yet, go get it.