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U.S. Department of Interior Ordered Offline

The whole of the U.S. Department of Interior has been forced off of the internet as a result of a court case Cobell v. Babbit. This was the result of compromises with the Microsoft Windows servers. A judge decided to take the whole of the organization down. Should this judge have this much power? Info here on the indian trust web site. This includes the BLM, USGS and the Park Service. Staggering, really. CD: Hold off on the blaming of MS, it's still not clear.

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  1. And, with USGS unavailable... by jim_deane · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ...thousands of Earth Science/Remote Sensing/Computer Mapping Systems students, some at my University, are left without one of the largest repositories of information necessary to their research, projects, and finals.

    Thank you, Judge OVER-REACT. How about an APPROPRIATE order, S#!t-for-brains!!

  2. Re:Should a judge [OT] by sigwinch · · Score: 5, Flamebait
    Drifting off topic, but here goes anyway...
    True, but the fundamental feeling behind unions is one of solidarity -- that *everyone* should be taken care of, not just those who are extremely skilled.
    CNN.com says the average salary of the striking teachers is $56k/year + benefits, only a little less than I make as an electrical engineer in the midwest. That isn't solidarity, it's larcency, a natural consequence of communism.
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  3. Re:McDonald's....Blood Sucking Liabilty Lawyers by darkPHi3er · · Score: 4, Flamebait

    "Actually, that McDonald's case you're so quick to dismiss is exactly like this."

    since you seem to be defending a legal system that perceived as rampantly irresponsible by most Americans (in poll after poll*n)...to be precise, i wasn't dismising the McDonald's lawsuit, I was ridiculing it for illustrative purposes.

    The DOI/Indian Trust case is not a product/contingent liabilty civil suit, you must think that all /.'rs are stupid. The DOI/Indian Trust case is about the DOI failing to exercise due diligence in the handling of the Indian Trust, to wit, the irresponsible and deleterious handling of both trust fiduciary assets and confidential trust data on its participants and beneficiaries Its ***NOT*** about Bottom Feeding Contingent Liability Lawyers who are sucking this country dry. I hope the Judge in the DOI case breaks it off at the knee in the DOI.

    People who support extremely irresponsible and irrational jury decisions, such as the McDonald's case, are costing everybody in America both money and opportunity, here's why:

    1."McDonald's profit on coffee sales for two days. That is hardly a burdensome amount - enough to get your attention, but probably something like $20-$50 for us..."

    THE SETTLEMENT DIDN'T COST MCDONALD'S ONE NICKEL, IT WAS PAID FOR BY MCDONALD'S ***CUSTOMERS***, ...the "us" you were talking about. There is NO "McDonald's". The judgement was also paid for by McD's shareholders.

    2. By encouraging people like that the person that sued McD, you create a society that values litigation over common sense.

    I don't WANT to be on the road with someone who doesn't grasp that "coffee is hot". Like Stella Liebeck. I hope Stella (and her blood sucking attorney) remain objects of ridicule for every day of the rest of their lives. I also don't want to be on the road with someone who can't identify and manage simple threats to their personal safety.

    "Consumer" Lawyers (contingent liability bottomfeeders specifically -- there are many lawyers who contribute to society and do great work for the poor and the needy) create an environment that discourages innovation and makes everyone American intelligent enough to grasp the (scalding liquids = personal danger) equation feel like the legal system is a bad joke designed for morons and con-artists.

    Liability insurance add huge dollars to the cost of ***EVERY PRODUCT WE BUY***, it adds enormous costs to every startup company that wants to produce a item for public consumption/operation. When I bought my first Honda Interceptor I was trolling through the Owner's Manual and there in 20pt "Liability Lawyer Bold" was an instruction NOT TO DRINK THE BATTERY ACID!

    Bob Heinlein used to have some of his literary characters joke that the standard you should have to meet in order to be allowed to reproduce was the ability to grasp and perform rudimentary integral calculus....I wonder what Bob would think about people who had be instructed that "hot coffee is hot" or "don't drink lethal chemicals"?

    BONUS ROUND: Last year/b4 in Canada, some poor kid, during finals, had been on a classic "study to you drop" push, after a particular exam (Math???), he went on a drinking binge with his friends, got good and tanked (hadn't had much sleep/food for a coupla days)...sometime, early AM, he went to get a Coke from the dorm vending machine, he didn't have any change, so he shook the machine to loosen a Coke...didn't work too well, the machine fell over and crushed him to death (suffocation)....

    his parents are sueing (Coke and the College) for big $$$$, claiming that Coca-Cola hadn't met the Canadian labeling laws for "dangerous machinery", by not providing an instructional label....they parents are angry and grief stricken and some a'hole attorney is looking to collect his 40-50% on their grief...Let's see; drunk, stealing a coke, shaking a several hundred pound vending machine with no one in sight, couldn't get out of the way in time...yeah, sure sounds like Coke's fault to me
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  4. Re:Should a judge [OT] by Malcontent · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    God why are moderators so stupid as to mark this idiot troll a 4.

    Do the math fuckhead they live in NJ. You know what the cost of living is like over there?

    OH BTW. If I ran the world teachers would get paid ten times what engineers do. Especially idiots engineers like you. You disgrace your profession.

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  5. Teachers ARE more IMPORTANT than egineers! by Pholostan · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Nuff' said.

    And I am a engineer BTW.

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