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Germany Wants To Put Time Limits On Porn

nappster writes: "According to this article (sorry, it's in German), Germany thinks it can control the Internet, so now it's considering requiring that porn sites restrict their hours to 11pm to 6am. Exactly how they will coerce sites operating outside Germany is not explained, hence the term 'imbecility' that some have used to describe this proposal." Swim through the German with the Fish.

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  1. As a german citizen by Kong+the+Medium · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read this piece of "NEWS" (ix.de reported this item last week(Use the fish)), and promplty filled my nose with coffee.

    To clarify: the main reason for this so called "Sendezeitbegrenzung" from 11 pm to 6am is the childrens protection act. ( Will somebody please think about the children :-)). It seems some of our politicians haven't greeped the fact that Germany isn't the navel of the world anymore.

    In essence this new Law the "Jugendmedienschutz-Staatsvertrag (JMStV)," proposes to extend the youth protection laws allready in place for Radio and TV to the Internet. ( Think FCC for Internet for the North-Americans on /.). So this will be another try, to censor content or to restrict the access to information on the internet. But we all know, how effectfull the earlier tries have been.

    I'm sure everybody knews how resourcefull 6-18 year olds can be at getting the po^H^Hinformation one wants.

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  2. Re:*sigh* by hwilker · · Score: 5, Informative
    Well, checking facts before posting would have helped in this case. I do live in Germany, and used to live in the US for a while. No other qualifications, sorry.
    • Internet connectivity is not "ten times more" expensive than in the US anymore. A flat-rate DSL is around EUR 50/USD 45, available at least in many urban areas from a number of companies. This is comparable to what I paid for cable internet in California. Modem/ISDN access is still metered by time for most users, though, but can be bought at around 1ct/min. AOL monthly cost is around EUR 20, if I remember correctly.
    • The government still has a major stake in Deutsche Telekom, which in turn is majority owner of T-Online, which is the largest ISP in Germany. On the other hand, both Telekom and T-Online have their stock traded in NY, I think. Other ISPs have no connections to the government at all.
    • "No red LEDs on the front of equipment"? This sounds like an urban legend. It's not true; you can buy home appliances like cooking ranges that blink a number of red LEDs and 7seg displays at you, looking like the bridge on the "Enterprise", and I happen to have 1) a compact stereo system, 2) a portable tape player, 3) a stationary tape player, 4) a TV (around ten years old) and 5) a camera all sporting red LEDs somewhere around their bodies.


    Of course all this doesn't invalidate the previous posters comments about other countries' lawmaking abilities in the tech sector...

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  3. A proper translation by TACD · · Score: 5, Informative
    Eeesh... you still use BabelFish? World Lingo has always been a better machine-translator:

    Agreement with protection of children and young people in the Internet

    Federation and countries agreed after one year's negotiation on principles for the protection of children and young people in the InterNet. The measures to temporal limitations for youth-endangering contents encounter criticism. On the corner points the bosses of the state and Senatskanzleien of the countries and the boss of the Office of the Federal Chancellor, franc walter stone Meier agreed, on Thursday in Berlin. The paper is present the Financial Times Germany. Basically the countries are to be responsible for the protection of children and young people in the media. The federation reserves itself rights of codetermination. The introduction of a " positive Ratings for harmless supplies " is suggested, which rejects the economy as " vorzensur ". The paper is to become basis for a youth medium protectorate contract (JMStV). On portals such as T-Online on Erotik pages without sufficient acces protection one link, says peace man Schindler of the Mainzer authority protection of children and young people.net. It expects now a stronger printing on the contents contents of to banish references to Sex supplies in the virtual Hinterzimmer.

    Not youth-free contents only in certain times

    According to the paper youth-free contents might not be made common " or accessible " only between 23 o'clock and 6 o'clock, if no " pre and free check techniques " are installed. Such demands were not practicably called of experts so far. " we can check not all contents in the network ", said Arthur Waldenberger, Vorstand of the freiwilligen self-check Multimedia (FSM). That is in view of billions on the part of " imbecility ". The fact that the self-check is to be subject to a " sovereign certifying " by a " commission for the youth medium protection " is not acceptable " ".

    Experts reject sections

    Also InterNet experts of the Bundestag factions reject sections of the arrangement. " the youth medium protection is already monastery suited compared with other countries almost in Germany ", says the medium-political speaker of the FDP, Hans Joachim petrol. It is too simply, itself after land woman manners " bigott over the dirt " consumed by million Germans too ereifern. Erotik providers are the only on-line industry, which writes black numbers. Also the SPD wants to put " dinosaur discussions forward over transmitting time delimitations and license obligations " for the InterNet a latch plate, said Joerg Tauss, representative for new media of the SPD. The corner points are not consentable.

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  4. Get a grip... by dillon_rinker · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am not a fan of porn &lt/understatement&gt), but folks, this is Germany. Ever been there? i have. I visited several small towns and one moderately large city. Every bookstore and newstand had a large selection of pornographic magazines. In the small town I stayed in, I noted one that featured people in sexual situations in the magazine rack at a toy and school supply store. Think about it - hardcore porn in a store for children in a small town. The newspaper featured frontal nudity most days - sometimes relevant to a story, sometimes not. MTV videos contained nudity.

    In short, I think the German politicians (or whoever) that are proposing this can't be taken seriously. I think it would be roughly analagous to US senators declaring that images of people in swimsuits should be outlawed. No one would take them seriously, in the sense that no one would think that it could actually happen. It would be a rhetorical ploy with some other political goal in mind.

    P.S. This is why you should travel..so you can spout inane drivel on slashdot and sound like you know what you're talking about :)