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Nobel Prizes Awarded

imrdkl writes: "Looks like Cisco has done a deal with CNN to present a nice overview of the Nobel Prizes this year. The Science awards that have been presented so far include one for singing atoms in Physics, as well as others linked from the URL above for medicine and chemistry. It's worth noting that the physics article was already covered here on slashdot, but now it's official for all."

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  1. Re:applicability of Nobel Prizes in the modern wor by junkgrep · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ---As for the economics award, the world has no use for a science dedicated to depriving people of freedom and controlling them.---

    This is an extremely unfair assement of the field of economics. Just because you may not like the some of the thrust of a social science is no reason to charge it with evil motives. And I would guess from your characterization that your sense of an "economist" is a boogeyman out of the Wall Street Journal, not a brilliant and thoughtful man like Joeseph Stiglitz. Indeed, the general thrust of academic economics is almost entirely the OPPOSITE of what you describe: it's normative goals are everywhere and always to maximize things like choice and social welfare.

  2. -1, Retarded by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Both the medecine and the chemistry prizes were awarded for proprietary research done in the interests of multinational pharmaceutical corporations. Although some of it is already being used in treatments, they are not affordable to the vast majority of the people in the world,

    Balderdash. In a few years generic versions of these drugs will be available at low cost. Thats about as good as you are going to get - if you cut the money out of the commercial drug business, you won't get any drugs for rich or for poor, as the generics manufacturers simply don't spend the research dollars necessary to develop the drugs.

    As for the economics award, the world has no use for a science dedicated to depriving people of freedom and controlling them.

    Thats odd, Milton Freidman is renowned for his award winning thesis that political freedom and economic freedom are closely related.

    The only awards that I can inequivocably agree with are the literature and peace awards. The United Nations has done a lot of good work, and it is a shame that the American government is blind to the advantages of supporting it completely.

    Yes, how could Americans not see the value in a bloated bureaucracy that is not elected and is accountable to no one? I thought there was a revolution fought over those same principles...

  3. Re:applicability of Nobel Prizes in the modern wor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You are of course, free to air your opinion. I am also free to disagree wholeheartedly. The worth of someone's work is wholly separate from their motivation for doing it. If I find a cure for cancer, it doesn't matter whether I did it for the money or to save the world; I still did it.

  4. Re:Why not new Nobel Prizes? Math Prize and more.. by Debillitatus · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Nobel's direction for his money was pretty clear so it's unlikely there will ever be new prizes.

    This doesn't follow. The economics prize of sort of new. You could imagine something similar happening with math, for example.

    Not that it's necessary, mind you, because there's no real need for a math Nobel prize at this point...

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  5. You're right but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    although you're basically right, remember that we define each national stereotype by the silliest people in each country. We only find European stereotypes funny because there is a grain of truth in the stereotype. You have to find it hilarious that the French would create laws that can prosecute you for working too many hours when the office is supposed to be closed. You have to find it hilarious that most folks from the US simply won't believe that normal European vacation policies even exist. I mean, there ARE a lot of socialists in Europe, and there ARE a lot of folks who believe that not wanting to do a lick of work shouldn't prevent you from being cared for from cradle to grave, so long as you're prepared to vote with the majority.

    I'm an Europhile, and I have little patience for the stereotyped 'ugly American'; but remember that, for the same reason that HE is funny, the stereotyped European is funny.

  6. Akerlov's lemons model by nels_tomlinson · · Score: 3, Insightful
    It runs something like this: You know your used car is a good one, worth $15,000.
    All I know is that about half the used cars for sale are lemons, worth nothing, and about half are good ones, worth $15,000. I have no way of knowing which is which. On average, if I buy a bunch of these cars, I'll be ok if I pay $7,500 each.

    If you sell your good car for $7,500, you get screwed.
    If no-one will sell good cars for less than $15,000, then I know that there are no good cars for sale, and I don't buy at all.

    Both these outcomes are market failure due to imperfect information. Neither version is likely to last for long in the real world: some third party will come along and sell inspections (i.e., information) for a big chunk of the profits we are loosing.

    Of course, this is just the beginning. Take a look in Mas-Colell, Whinston and Green's Microeconomic Theory for more. I don't think Varian has it.

    More worryingly, why does one of the recipients look exactly like Steve Martin?

    Obviously, one of the economists who got the Nobel prize was wearing a Steve Martin mask, trying to pose as a celebrity. Some people will do anything to be noticed.

  7. Re:Awards are mindless... by TGK · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone who thinks an indtustrialized nation in the process of teaching its women and children how to kill with pointy sticks as a method of defence is "on the brink of surrender" has another thing coming.

    Japan, contrary to the rather misguided perceptions of the historicaly naive, was more or less in the grip of a throwback code of morality dictated by the military elements in the nation known as "Bushido." The word breaks into Bushi and Do meaning Warrior and Way, or more generaly, the way of the warrior.

    Japan and the japanese were prepared to fight to the end. Estimates as to the K.I.A count (Killed in Action) for invading and holding the home islands of Japan ran well into the hundreds of thousands [US Troops only]. For your reference, the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagisaki combined killed a scant 105 thousand Japanese, well within the estimates for a home island invasion.

    Was the US justified in droping the Atomic Bomb? Based on what we now know about the bomb's after affects, no. But that information was not available on August 6, 1945. You can not hold the military planners responcible for forces beyond their understanding or indeed anyone's understanding in this case.

    Finaly, for comparitive purposes consider the casualtie estimates for the fire bombing attack on Tokyo -- 234,412, Dresden - 250,000 (high estimate). Japan lost some 107,539 soliders at the battle of Okinawa alone, burned out by flame throwers for the most part. US Army estimates put total Japanese losses for Okinawa at more than 140,000.

    So was the atomic bombing really an act to scare the Soviets? Probably not. More importantly, Truman and Stalin got along wonderfully. Truman is often quoted discribing Stalin as "a man I can worth with." There was no need for Truman to frighten Stalin, indeed, Truman himself said that US posturing after WWII was not because of his fear of Stalin, but rather who would come after him.

    Not that I'm disagreeing with you, just pointing out the problems in that statement of yours.

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  8. Screen for plugs before accepting stories by thenoog · · Score: 2, Insightful

    regarding: "Looks like Cisco has done a deal with CNN..." - Don't you think it would be nice if the advertising implicit in this statement had been screened out before the story was accepted?

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