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Cross Platform Document Management Systems?

Alan asks: "I'm looking for a way to do document management at the office. We have windows people and linux people, some writing documents that are a few lines (developer notes for example) and others are full of charts, graphs, etc. Currently we have a file server that has shares set up for the documentation, but it lacks any sort of revision control, and with the salespeople writing in Microsoft Word there are cross-platform issues. We were thinking of setting up an wiki or an everything-based site, but as it is only text, it's not good enough for everyone. There is also the matter of getting our master documentation (which is in PDF format) accessable to everyone as well, possibly in an XML format that can be imported into indesign or Pagemaker or something. There are lots of solutions that work for different departments and different systems, but it would be nice to have something that works for everyone."

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  1. Simple by BRO_HAM · · Score: 3, Interesting



    Here is the best system for managing documents, it's simple, yet very effective. The technology or database here is a matter of preference - let's address "business flow".

    You need a single directory to store all of your documents - no subdirectories. The categorization should be held in the database. This makes for simple backups and not having to heavily integrate your application with the server's file system.

    You should have 5 ways to access the files - categorical, by date, by "uploader", by type, and a search function that indexes the complete text held within each document. Verity has a very nice offering for indexing MANY different types of files.

    All of the 5 different methods of access should be linked. For instance, if I am browsing categorically and I run across a documentation style I like in particular, I should be able to click a link that takes me to the "uploader" filter that will show me all the other documents that individual uploaded.

    Another example is if I did a full-text search for "widgets 123" and had a long listing of documents, you should list the categories they reside in so the user can click that category and be taken to all of the documents in that category.

    Two phrases should be at the top of every thought you have regarding this system:

    Fully Integrated
    Stupid dumb easy to use

    Adam.

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  2. Document *sharing* by fm6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    PDF? Only useful if document revisions and annotations are only done by the original author!

  3. Welcome to format hell by fm6 · · Score: 3, Informative
    When you refer to "cross platform solutions" you're attacking the wrong problem. It's easy enough to set up a document server with basic version control. Most document servers have clients for every common platform. And even if yours isn't supported, there's always a Web or Java client.

    The problem is compatibility between applications. Every application has its own format -- in some cases even different versions of the same app can't share files.

    The software vendors would like you to believe that their products solve this with "import/export" filters. Bullshit. I have never, ever seen such a filter that's suitable for everyday use. Some require a lot of skill to use. But most just fail to parse this element and that. So you get data loss ranging from minor formatting errors to suprise content loss.

    The closest I can suggest to a total solution is to make everybody standardize on a small set of formats. There's a minimum of three, for plain text (and don't forget the Mac/Unix/DOS line break issue!), rich text, and graphics (possibly more than one). Easy enough to find standard formats for each these. The hard one is rich text, but not for any technical reason.

    Technically it's simple. Settle on a widely-used rich text format and forbid everything else. If you don't care about the content-formatting dichotomy, LaTeX is a good candidate -- techies can use their favorite text editors, techno-muggles can use any number of WYSIWYG tools. (Being a technical writer, I would insist on XML, but that doesn't make sense for every organization.) Problem solved, right?

    Wrong. If your organization is at all typical, you've got a lot of people who have an investment in their Word, Powerpoint, and Excel skills, and would quit if they had to start over. That's a social engineering problem, and I don't have a solution for it.

    1. Re:Welcome to format hell by fm6 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      MS Word's interface is quite configurable. If you remove all the visual display stuff (font, font-size, etc...)
      So we have to castrate Word in order to save it? You're talking about stripping out most of it's functionality. People stick with products like Word and Excel because it has zillions of obscure features they know how to use. If we take that away, why are we using Word at all?
  4. Zope by jfunk · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Zope.

    I've been looking at this lately and Zope is an ideal solution.

    Zope can grok anything if you can find/write a product for it. It can also search it using ZCatalog.

    I downloaded the MSWordDocument product and it kicks ass. When you stick a Word document into the Zope database it has it's own 'type.' When you access the document it will, by default, render it in HTML (thanks to wvware) and display it, with a bar at the top with a 'download' link that retrieves the original document. What makes this even cooler is that, since Zope can extract the text, ZCatalog can give you a search interface.

    I built a simple system with search in about five minutes using the web interface and DTML tags. No lie.

    There's a similar product for PDF files and if I make one for StarOffice files, it'll be useful at the place where I work.

    To top it all of, Zope has built in versioning. You can even do diffs between arbitrary versions. It also has webdav support so that Windows users, with 'Web Folders' and Linux users, with davfs, can open and save files, with locking and everything as if they were local.

    All the little stuff is already there, too. User accounts and login handling is native, you can attach metadata to anything, and you can write scripts in Python, Perl, or PHP.

    Needless to say, I highly recommend it.