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WEP Gets A Bit Stronger

gmr2048 writes: "CNN is reporting that RSA has helped develop "Fast Packet Keying" to strengthen WEP security. More info can be found at the RSA page. Damn, and I'm still working on my Pringles can antenna."

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  1. RC4 by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They still use the RC4 algorithm, but now they claim to be implementing it right. Might actually keep the bad folk out if they can get the patches out to everybody.

  2. odd comment in similar article by jeffy124 · · Score: 3, Redundant

    literally just finished reading the cnet version of this story, which included a statement like the following:

    "... does not address any new holes that might crop up"

    can I be the first to tell cnet "DUH!"

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  3. OT: pringle cans by kwj8fty1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Speaking of pringles cans, we just built a ton of them at the last seattlewireless meeting. We're seeing a 10 to 13db gain from a $5-10 antenna.

    You can see pictures here:

    http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/DecemberM eetingPictures2001

  4. Practical mathematics by s20451 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/index.html:

    Why is WEP Broken?
    The weakness in WEP stems back to a key derivation problem in the standard. ... While the WEP standard had specified using different keys for different data packets, the key derivation function (how to derive a key from a common starting point) was flawed.

    To all you undergrads doing math exams this week: yes, you really do have to know how to do this in the real world!

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  5. Damn... by 4mn0t1337 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This means I have to go back to just reading my own mail for the time being?

    Just when my neighbor's online affair was getting interesting. ;)

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  6. Why do packet-level encryption ? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Seems to me that the most secure way to do wireless networking is to set up encrypted tunnels :

    No bad guy will ever be able to use the network anyway.

    You have the choice of encryption policy you want to use and you're in control on how secure you want the network to be.

    The overhead of encrypting the packet headers is avoided (granted, the card is supposed to do that transparently, but still I have seen significant slowdowns in lag and throughput when playing with WEP).

    The only drawbacks I can think of with doing your own protocol-level encryption are :

    Bad guys can still see your bastion host or VPN gateway in clear and have a go at it (DoS or otherwise), and script kiddies might want to have a try because they think it's in clear, while when they see WEP in place they might not even try.

    You have to set up a VPN and the infrastructure that goes with it (duh) while you don't have to with WEP.

    It's a little harder for Windows users to use your service, if you use PPTP, or it's impossible altogether if you use something Windows doesn't understand, or it's costly because you have to buy third-party Windows VPN software (I don't deal with Windows users, thank God, so problem solved for me).

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    1. Re:Why do packet-level encryption ? by bourne · · Score: 3, Informative

      I see two main reasons why packet-level encryption is worthwhile (assuming it isn't totally broken, of course):

      • Having encryption in the network hardware means that it is more likely to be used and to become ubiquitous. Hardware people are MUCH better at interoperably supporting standards than software people (maybe because hardware people write tighter standards).
      • You can't (or won't) encrypt EVERY protocol. DNS, DHCP, ICMP? All of these aren't worth adding application-layer encryption, but do provide valuable data to an attacker.

      Personally, I'm happy to have working packet-level encryption because that adds one more layer. SSH over IPSec over WEP, anyone?

  7. What about the other 12 'key contributors'? by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the RSA press release:

    Fast Packet Keying," a new technology based on the RC4® algorithm, is designed to help organizations securely fix the WEP encryption standard. This new WEP solution, developed by RSA Security, Hifn and other members of the 802.11 committee, is designed to generate a unique RC4 key for each data packet sent over the wireless LAN.

    The fix to WEP was developed by a working group in which RSA was far from being the sole contributor. It is a bit off for RSA to try to claim the glory for the fix when a significant part of the WEP problem is due to a weakness in the keying scheme of RC4.

    The presentation lists as 'key contributors' Jessie Walker of Intel, Bob Beach and Clint Chaplin from Symbol, Ron Brockman of Intersil Nancy Cam-Winget of Atheros Greg Chesson, Atheros Niels Ferguson, MacFergus BV Marty Lefkowitz, TI Bob O'Hara, Blackstorm Networks Dorothy Stanley, Agere Doug Smith, Cisco Albert Young, 3COM

    So when RSA wants to get votes it has a dozen 'key contributors'. But when they want to take the credit there are two.

    The original algorithm was botched, in part it is claimed (by an informed source) because the original IEEE working group left the crypto to an NSA advisor. Failing to understand the specific weakness of using a stream cipher in general and the specific weaknesses of the RC4 key scheme are the major reasons for the failure of the WEP design.

    One could rightly blame the original working group for failing to read up on the litterature and avoid the known flaws of RC4, only RC4 was until recently a proprietary and secret algorithm of RSA. The key scheme flaws were only publicised after RC4 was reverse engineered without RSA approval, and resulted in considerable protest by RSA.

    This type of publicity grab is not good for open standards development. It encourages people to release their proposals to the press rather than to the working group.

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  8. More Secure, but not? by SloppyElvis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In reading the posted article and in reviewing some literature concerning WEP security here: CS at Berkeley I was wondering if anyone out there had insight on the nature of the modifications that have been made.

    Please excuse my naivety in the field, but from the Berkeley article I gather that not only is the similarity of the packet keys a weakness of WEP (as RSA indicates), but also the use of a 24-bit space for the initialization vectors used to generate the RC4 packet keys.

    Now, is the 24-bit space limitation what RSA means by, "similarity of the packet keys", or are they referring to the fact that most boards start the IV at 0 and simply increment for each packet (the end result being numerous IV collisions)?

    The reason I wonder is because theoretically, at least, one could construct a table of all IV + key stream combinations in a decryption table (~15Gb according to Berkeley) and thereby gain himself the key to the city, so to speak. So, while limiting the number of IV collisions would certainly make decryption more difficult and certainly more time consuming, it wouldn't make WEP entirely secure. In the event that someone be so determined to monitor WLAN activity for enough time to construct such a table, could users of WEP be exposed?

    1. Re:More Secure, but not? by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Informative
      Now, is the 24-bit space limitation what RSA means by, "similarity of the packet keys", or are they referring to the fact that most boards start the IV at 0 and simply increment for each packet (the end result being numerous IV collisions)?

      RC4 has a specific design flaw whereby the cipherstream for k has similarities to the cipher stream for k+1. These allow an attacker with cipher text for k and k+1 to recover the plaintext of the messages and the key.

      One fix is to throw away the first 256 bytes or so of the cipherstream. Another solution is to make the probability of a collision very small which is what the fast keying scheme is doing.

      The main constraint on the solution is that it has to be deployable on cards that have already been manufactured and those are not particularly powerful CPU wise.

      The Berkely attack is certainly a concern, 24 bit encryption is not acceptably secure. But that is not the weakness being exploited by AirSnort. There are a bunch of mixing functions defined in the presentation I have seen but there is insufficient info to know if it does indeed do the right thing.

      Again, I am somewhat anoyed when cryptographic protocols are puffed in the press prematurely. I am not a member of the 802.11b group, however I will be reviewing their work product when they announce it is ready. I am not aware that this is currently the case. I would like something more than a powerpoint presentation to evaluate the protocol by.

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  9. It's pretty ridiculous by evilviper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I really have to laugh when I hear about people trying to 'improve' WEP. My favorite is Cisco's method of changing the key about every 10 minutes.

    The solution is to get rid of WEP all together (before someone REALLY breaks it!) and switch to something which works right. IPSec, SSH, SSL, PPTP all come to mind as protocols which could solve this problem, and never have to be upgraded. Now WEP is a cat and mouse game. Companies will continue to iimprovie it, and individuals will continue to find better ways to crack it. Personally, I'll just pass on an access point all together and get a Unix box with IPSec working as the router. Easy as 1, 2,3 and a hell of a lot more secure than any WEP solutions out there.

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