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Slashback: Ford, Buccaneers, Hardware

The updates tonight (below) are on the industrially appealing sliMP3 player (get in line, buddy), the U.S. government's continuing War on Copyright Violation, the pricy but cool-sounding Audigy sound card from Creative Labs, what you'll find at mysql.org, and more. Enjoy!

It seemed like a good idea at the time, though. GeekLife.com writes: "After 20 months, Ford has ended (technically "deferred") their "Model E" free computer and discounted Internet access for their employees (announced here and discussed here). Employees who already have computers will be able to keep them, and their Internet service will not be affected."

I sure hope that Ford (like many large companies) at the very least gives Ford employees dibs on any computers that are being replaced within the company to make up for each new round of Windows.

Sounds like a slimple decision, if you like the look. rockwood writes: "We've all been waiting for this for quite some time, but it appears that now for only $269.00 Slim Devices, Inc. is now shipping their sliMP3. Though they state quantity is limited, due to a component shortage. Last minute Christmas gift for the tech on your list!"

For that price, it better read aloud in a very sexy voice. The other day we linked to a review of the new all-singing, all-dancing Audigy sound card on 3D Spotlight; in case that wasn't enough to help you choose whether to spend or save your money, LinkDJ writes: "This card is great for those with older sound card in their systems, but if you have a Sound Blaster 5.1, there is no real need to upgrade. The cool things about this card are that it has integrated SB1394 Firewire, thus eliminating the need for a separate Firewire add-in card. Read the full review."

WhoseSQL? gwynnebaer writes "A friend of mine just pointed out to me that the contentious www.mysql.org now points to the main MySQL AB site. If you remember, there was much gnashing of lawsuits over trademark issues this past summer. So, looks like at least one part of the battle is over, but for the life of me, I can't find any articles or newsworthy information to explain what happened. Anyone know the scoop?"

Free software might be a good way to lessen your legal liability. MooRogue writes: "Looks like the Feds are raiding Universities and corporate offices for more pirated software. They're questioning people and seizing computers to gather digital evidence in 'Operation Buccaneer.' Here's the article on the NY Times (free reg, blah blah)"

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  1. Is it really worth it?? by WaIter+Bell · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Let me preface this by saying that I am an avid Linux user. I use Latex for word processing, Koffice to read office docs, and Netscape 4.77 to browse the web. I do not depend on non-free software for anything.

    Now, my question: what were these "DrinkOrDie" people thinking? They are going to spend months, maybe years in jail just because they couldn't live without their precious warez. I find it hard to imagine what you can't do with free, legal open source software - so why did these kids forsake their entire future over some crappy commercial software products? It blows the mind, really. The latest Debian CD provides all the software anyone could ever conceive of needing.

    One possibility is that they did this to "be cool" and to show that they could get away with it - just for the thrill of doing something illegal. Well, it didn't get them laid, and they're not getting away with it. So they can take comfort in the fact that they will be rotting away in their prison cells as vaginal virgins. I hope they are proud of themselves.

    Why anyone would subject themselves to this sort of punishment for a little free closed-source software is beyond the realm of comprehension.

    ~waIly

    1. Re:Is it really worth it?? by Exmet+Paff+Daxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The latest Debian CD provides all the software anyone could ever conceive of needing.

      At first glance, you're right. But think about it for a minute. Rob Malda is quite possibly the most Open Source concious person I know of, and he is (by his own admission in several posted stories) almost addicted to the closed source computer game FFX. He discussed his obsession earlier in this story. If Rob can't get by with Tux racer, how can we expect people with only average willpower to resist the lure of proprietary software?

      Face it, no matter how much we like Open Source software, there's always going to be something Closed Source that you like, even if you're Rob Malda. And what better what to stick it to the man and teach them to go Open Source than to just copy the software?

      I think the mistake these DrinkOrDie guys made was that they copied too much. I only copy one or two games a month and nobody has ever busted me.

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    2. Re:Is it really worth it?? by mz001b · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The latest Debian CD provides all the software anyone could ever conceive of needing.

      Doesn't provide a Fortran 90 compiler. Projects exist but they are a long way off yet. Most Linux distributions come with the major apps you need, but there are plenty of other, more specialized ones, that are needed.

    3. Re:Is it really worth it?? by Phexro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "The latest Debian CD provides all the software anyone could ever conceive of needing."

      uh, the latest Debian cd doesn't even provide linux 2.4.x or xfree86 4.0.

      and show me one audio processing tool that's comparable to soundforge, or SAW or protools, or any other professional audio editing studio. i'm a debian developer and i don't know of one.

  2. I can't believe your arrogance by .sig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I only copy one or two games a month and nobody has ever busted me."

    The fact that you haven't been caught doesn't make it right. How dare you suggest that stealing "only one or two" is justified?

    I know this isn't a perfect world and not every criminal can be caught, but that doesn't mean you should flaunt the fact that you haven't been caught stealing yet. (And not even posting anonymously... there are ways to track you down, especially if /. really does log personal info from users.)

    The mistake these guys made was in stealing their first piece of software. They got away with it, but commit a crime enough times and you will and should eventually get caught.

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    1. Re:I can't believe your arrogance by .sig · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not my assumption that stealing is wrong. It's a law, one held by pretty much every set of moral beliefs out there. If stealing is ok for you, then you're more than welcome to try and legalize it in whatever country you live in, but I kinda like that law.

      You must win a lot of debates if nothing that you don't believe in is not a valid argument. You don't think pirating is stealing, so it's not? First off, it's not a victimless crime. You are stealing revenue from whoever owns the rights to that software. You are taking something that belongs to someone else. It doesn't matter that the original is not destroyed, you're still depriving someone of the revenue that they worked to earn. If you worked for a company for awhile, and then got fired without compensation, I'm sure you'd complain. They aren't stealing anything physical from you, but they did steal your time and effort. Is there no victim there?

      While it's true that not everyone feels that stealing is wrong, that's not enough to convince me. Maybe if I knew why you thought stealing should be legal and it was a convincing enough argument I might change my mind.

      Do you really think that stealing is illegal for political reasons, or was that just a smoke cloud to make your argument look more reasonable. I know plenty of laws are passed for political reasons, but that doesn't make this one of them. Who lobbied to make stealing against the law? Look it up, it was probably done for a good reason though, not just politics.

      And yes, I've already asked whether stealing should be illegal. In my mind, I am 100% for this. I wouldn't want someone stealing the product of my work and then bragging about not getting caught for it. Maybe I'm the only one, but I just can't see any reason not to.

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  3. Re:Audigy by bbqdeath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When the next version of Windows comes out, I suspect a lot of people will be saying "all I want to know is when the Windows-?? drivers will be available for the audigy."

    I've had enough pain and suffering from creative labs' prior driver support issues that I'm going to have to think long and hard about whether the price for this card is worth it, because I can't realistically expect the card to work past whatever version of Windows it supports now.

    Eugene

  4. Windows Licensing by statusbar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    • I sure hope that Ford (like many large companies) at the very least gives Ford employees dibs on any computers that are being replaced within the company to make up for each new round of Windows.

    But that is illegal unless they wipe the windows off the hard disks and install Linux/NetBSD/etc on it instead. Or, they can pay microsoft their extortion/protection fee.

    The windows licenses that the corporation bought are not transferrable. In the future you will not be able to buy older versions of windows at all. Yet, the newer versions of windows (XP) won't work nicely on these computers - otherwise why would they be getting replaced?

    So in a roundabout way, microsoft makes linux the only option for people with older computers - especially if the computers are hand-me-downs.

    --jeff

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  5. Re:According to these figures i just made up... by MisterBlister · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The billions of dollars figures come from supposed "lost revenue". eg. We have a product that costs $500; we have tracked 10,000 pirated versions of this software to pirates. We lost $5,000,000 in revenue because these pirates didn't pay.

    Of course, it doesn't really add up -- if a pirate version of that software wasn't available, all but a very small percent of those 10,000 pirates wouldn't have actually bought the product... From what I see, most pirates don't even use the vast majority of software they get, they just archive it and build vast collections for bragging rights.

  6. Re:Audigy vs. Santa Cruz on an i810 chipset machin by Bitmanhome · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For some reason, I wanna come up with a suitably smart-ass answer to cut you down to size, but I can't -- it look like you got a really sweet system for doing some heavy video processing on a budget. My suggestions are below, but they can't match an OEM Audigy, which pricewatch says is $55.

    c: If you have an ISA slot, put in an Awe 64 and a PCI firewire card.
    d: Get a Radeon 8500DV, which replaces the Xpert, the TV Wonder, AND firewire.
    e: Get a real motherboard, with 6 PCI and on-board ether.

    And Win2k kicks boot, no flames are warranted.

    -B

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    Not that this wasn't entirely predictable.
  7. Simple solution to the Warez problem: by MsGeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...lower the price of software to something other than stratospheric levels. Notice that the biggest guns in the BSA are the same software companies that charge extortionate prices for their software...Microsoft? Adobe? Macromedia? Start charging fair prices for software and piracy will dry up. Big time.

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  8. Re:This is truly frightening by Tricot · · Score: 2, Insightful
    All this reminds me of the poem by the German during World War 2 that mentioned he never stood up for anyone because he wasn't one of them, but when the Nazis showed up for him, there was no one left to stand up for him. I'm surprised it took this long before someone proved Godwin's Law.

    While I've got a fair number of qualms with IP laws,and how they're implemented in the US (and soon everywhere else thanks to WIPO). I can't really rationalize what these kids did, and comparing this crackdown to anything the Nazi's did seems bizzare and freekish.

    -- Mitch