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AT&T Broadband To Merge With Comcast Cable

quualudes was one of the many people to submit the AT&T Broadband/Comcast merger. CNNfn has more of the story as well. 72$ billion is the cost. Wow. I wonder how this affects @Home. One alert reader also submitted the news that Comcast will evidently by launching a video gaming channel - more information will be coming in February 2002.

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  1. press release by cha0sadddddddd · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.att.com/press/item/0,1354,4135,00.html

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  2. well, crap by 3prong · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dammit, I switched to cable to get away from the chaos in DSL-land!

  3. In other news.. by Xerithane · · Score: 3, Funny

    Comcast issues a more clear statement, saying they had brought AT&T flowers. The type of flowers were thought to be tulips, falling in with the funeral metephor.

    Upon further inquiry, it seems AT&T has decided that they really just suck at being a large company and had to split once again, this time under their own influence, into several smaller companies.

    If only certain other companies could make the same blundering mistakes to cause large debt requiring spinoffs....

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  4. This is good, AT&T is extinct by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 5, Interesting
    AT&T, since Armstrong became CEO, has been an ongoing tale of poor decisions and huge losses. Its worth noting that AT&T lost money owning the cable business - Armstrong was paid an astounding amount to build the cable empire at AT&T only to sell it for less than it cost him. Pathetic. Armstrong clearly needs to go, but at this point its unlikely AT&T will survivce in any case - they will almost certainly be swallowed by SBC.

    As for the cable business, Comcast can only be an improvement. AT&T service was dismal, but typical of this truly out of date corporate dinosaur.

    1. Re:This is good, AT&T is extinct by Xerithane · · Score: 3, Funny

      I love America.

      Ma Bell gets broken up.

      Baby Bells join into SBC.

      Remaining AT&T collapses under it's own weight (and stupidity).

      SBC swallows AT&T.

      Life .. feeds on Life .. feeds on Life ..

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    2. Re:This is good, AT&T is extinct by Jburkholder · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, not exactly...

      >Baby Bells join into SBC.

      Southwest Bell was one of the seven baby bells (BellSouth, Bell Atlantic, Ameritech, US West, NyNex, PacTel and SW Bell) and they went on to acquire PacTel and Ameritech and are now SBC.

      Bell Atlantic and NyNex merged and (I lost track) then became Verizon when GTE came to the party.

      >SBC swallows AT&T

      When did this happen? AT&T has been disintegrating on its own for some time now (Wireless, now broadband leaving). SBC hasn't had much to do with it (yet).

  5. Hmm, my list of TV channels is going to shrink ... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I pay $20 for cable TV every month through a deal my neighborhood struck with AT&T Broadband (read : the majority of idiot around where I live have imposed this shit to people who wanted something else). Net result : my channel offering is the crappiest I've ever seen, and all the remaining good channels have been taken away slowly one after the other by AT&T-B without anybody being able to complain about it.

    Now I guess I'll have only the Home Shopping Network, the weather channel, and the 3 (*3*!) religious-oriented channels left before I can finish posting this. Oh well, time to sell that TV and the TiVo and start reading again ...

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  6. Stock Price Difference Interesting.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to the press release on Comcast, AT&T stockholders will receive 0.34 share of Comcast for each share of AT&T they own, which is currently worth about $13.07. AT&T stock is currently selling for about $16-17. Unless there's some radical realignment in stock prices (e.g. Comcast getting hit because of the debt they're acquiring along with the assets), that means there's either some major synergy going on or else the market thinks that the rest of AT&T is worth about $4 :-) Hope it's the former...

  7. @homeattbicomcastdial-up? by doggo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Crap!

    Just when I was hoping my damn connection would get stable. Got a signal to the cable modem a half hour ago after another 6 days outage after the 5 day outage during the excite debacle.

    Now what, we gotta change all our settings, e-mail forwarding, accounts, etc.?

    Can anyone recommend a high speed internet provider in Chicago that looks stable financially, and provides good service. And, dare I ask, has technicians that know their asses from gopher holes?

    Or do I have to use the built-in 56K modem on my new iBook indefinitely?

    Whatta pile a horse pucky!

    1. Re:@homeattbicomcastdial-up? by lsd4all · · Score: 5, Funny

      These guys look good.

      http://www.enron.com/corp/products/broadband/

  8. Yet in the Dallas, TX area by DAldredge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They REFUSE to sell you anymore bandwidth, no matter what you are willing to pay...

  9. Re:It's not @home anymore by evilquaker · · Score: 3, Informative
    Since they went bankrupt. Now it's AT&T Broadband Internet.

    Maybe for you, but not for Cox@Home or Comcast@Home (or Rogers@Home) customers. We still have @Home service until sometime before Feb. 28th...

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  10. Re:Restrictions? by ShadeEagle · · Score: 5, Informative

    Read it closer... especially the last few lines.

    They guarantee nothing, save that you get a bill.

    Oh, and if you sue them, YOU pay the lawyer fees regardless of whether you win or lose.

    Copy 'n pasted from the Second Example: (Caps and all...)
    FINALLY, YOU AGREE TO DEFEND, INDEMNIFY, AND HOLD HARMLESS AT&T AND THIRD PARTIES WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE AT&T WORLDNET HIGH SPEED SERVICE FROM ANY LOSS, DAMAGE, OR COST (INCLUDING ATTORNEYS' FEES) RESULTING FROM YOUR VIOLATION OF THIS AGREEMENT OR ANY ACTIVITY RELATED TO YOUR AT&T WORLDNET HIGH SPEED ACCOUNT.

    In the first two examples, read "You're Responsible" REAL closely.

    More Examples:
    http://www.attbi.com/general-info/policies.html
    http://www.att.net/general-info/terms.html
    http://www.att.com/terms/

  11. MSFT wins out [bg ingo] by Angry+Black+Man · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As an ATT Broadband subscriber for TV, Internet, and PHONE, I can say that I have been following this case very closely. To sum up the whole bidding wars: its basically AOL vs. MSFT.

    AOL was heavily looking into buying the corp which made MSFT very scared. MSFT's entire coming business plans rely on broadband: .NET, My services, even the Xbox cant be fully used without broadband. Earlier, Bill Gates said he thought the BB market was moving to slowly. If AOL were to get the deal, MSFT's plans would be severly crippled.

    MSFT started backing COX and COMCAST in the bidwars. I can say I am thankful that comcast won, even though its basically the least of the two evils (AOL vs. MSFT).

    This deal is a lot more important than just ATT. It could play a huge role in both AOL and MSFT's core strategies.

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  12. Re:Restrictions? by AntiNorm · · Score: 3, Funny

    Let me get this straigt... What CAN you use their service for?

    Finding a new service?

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  13. Re:Restrictions? by foobar104 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    FINALLY, YOU AGREE TO DEFEND, INDEMNIFY, AND HOLD HARMLESS AT&T AND THIRD PARTIES WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE AT&T WORLDNET HIGH SPEED SERVICE BLAH BLAH BLAH I'M SO STUFFY GIVE ME A SCONE

    Believe it or not, this is completely typical stuff probably cut-and-pasted out of a boilerplate terms and conditions for commercial service document.

    Any time you sign up for any kind of service, from telephone all the way up to managed technical support like my company sells, you're told in the sales contract that you're waiving your rights to sue in case something goes wrong. It's right up there with the "no warranty express or implied, including guarantee of merchantability or fitness of purpose" language that goes in every software license agreement.

    It's the company's way of saying, "Just because we're providing you with this product or service, don't think we're accepting the full and permanent responsibility for any deranged misuses of our product or service that you might think of with your sick little mind."

    So if you violate the AT&T terms and conditions and they shut off your connection, thereby costing you umpteen million boxtops in lost business from your work-from-home pyramid scheme web site, don't think you can run to your lawyer and claim damages.

    On the other hand, if AT&T violates their end of the bargain in any way-- although I can't think of an example; those T&C documents are usually pretty well written-- you still have all those rights and privileges that flesh is heir to.

    So don't get all huffy about these conditions. They're nothing new or unusual.

  14. Media merger mania - when will it end? by cowboy+junkie · · Score: 3, Informative
    TCI buys Viacom cable. AT&T buys TCI cable. Comcast buys AT&T cable. All in less than a decade.

    Always a good time to see who owns what

  15. Good by CaptainSuperBoy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    AT&T sucks. They have managed to purchase a decent cable/broadband company and singlehandedly run it into the ground. Since AT&T's purchase of Mediaone, we've been subjected to increased downtime, crappy digital cable service, slow internet, awful customer service, all with them raising prices across the board. their digital box is the size of a VCR, has no hi-fi outputs (not that it matters, most of the channels are still analog), was designed 4 years ago, and the SLOW ASS interface is worse than my grandma's WebTV.

    Crap. I just needed to rant about how much they sucked. Hopefully Comcast can improve the service a little. Personally I'll be happy if they can go for 6 months without changing their name. Since I subscribed, I had MediaOne for about 3 months, my cable was called MediaOne RoadRunner. Then it was AT&T Broadband, with AT&T RoadRunner for internet. Then the Internet was CALLED AT&T@Home, even though it was really the AT&T Broadband Internet network. Now it's called AT&TBI.