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OS X Vs. Linux On The Desktop

saintlupus writes: "There's an interesting article about the recent web browsing stats of Linux by Charles Moore, a fairly well-known web journalist in the Mac community. He asks whether OS X is the deathblow to Linux in the desktop and scientific computing markets. He also touches on the perennial "I'll run it on my Athlon or not at all" mindset of current Lintel hardware owners. Definitely worth a read." The article that Charles uses as his jumping point is the recent stats on Linux on the desktop. That article cites .24%, but Charles article has some pieces on why that number could be wrong.

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  1. Perennial attitudes by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny
    He also touches on the perennial "I'll run it on my Athlon or not at all" mindset of current Lintel hardware owners.

    Well, I might consider OS X if Steve Jobs didn't have a perennial "You'll run it on our overpriced, single-sourced, proprietary, artsy-fartsy hardware or not at all" mindset.

  2. Linux wins hands down by euroderf · · Score: 5, Funny
    I'm fed up of all the nonsense about the BSD OS X flavour. It may seem that OS X is flavour of the month, after all it is a Unix with MS Office and IE and photoshop and even high street games.

    But normal people don't need these things. Who the hell needs MS Office except business zealots? Nobody needs anything more than vi or emacs and an encyclopaedic knowledge of the command line. With a bit of effort, I can do simple things like post emails, browse newsnet and rip mp3's too, and as nobody but closed minded GUI maniacs need some brain dead pointy-clicky interface, I don't see how retrogressing into the early 90's fraudulent GUI paradigm can do anybody any good.

    GUI's are a productivity waste for dummies. Think how long it takes to move the mouse around and select some obscure option in preferences, as compared to editing rc files with sed. Any decent user worth his salt can make his PC sing with eternal, messianic, orgasmic glory as he ./configures, makes and make installs his way to ecstatic, orgasmic destiny.

    Fuck this GUI shit. Look at my uid, I've been around since 1969 and used Unix since 1972, after graduating from Multics, and I still curse the day that the closed sourse idiots in Xerox started getting lofty ideas.

    Sorry, but I just had to rant. This stuff makes me see red :-)

    1. Re:Linux wins hands down by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2, Funny
      So, how's that command-line version of Photoshop working out for you?


      pshop> create PSD -s 1024 768 -c 32bit RGB -t my_image;

      image 'my_iamge' created

      pshop> draw square
      pshop> width 200px, 300px
      pshop> pos 500px, 500px
      pshop> fill #F4F6B7
      pshop> border 2px, #000000;

      square created. id: 000931231.

      pshop> edit square 000931241
      pshop> border 3px, #990000;

      error: square 000931241 does not exist.
      error: comamnd 'border' undefined.

      pshop> edit square 000931231
      pshop> border 3px, #990000;

      border changed for square 000931231

      pshop> preview;

      tret
      etet
      09
      trfd
      tert

      pshop> edit square 000931231
      pshop> pos 400px, 200px;

      position changed for square 000931231

      pshop> create ovel
      pshop> width 100px, 100px
      pshop> pos 300px, 300px
      pshop> fill #F4F6B7
      pshop> border 2px, #000000;

      error: no object 'ovel'

      pshop> create oval
      pshop> width 100px, 100px
      pshop> pos 300px, 300px
      pshop> fill #F4F6B7
      pshop> border 2px, #000000;

      oval created id: 00346583.


      *sigh*

  3. What's with all the VS Linux? by zulux · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good greif,
    I love OpenBSD and FreeBSD, but I'd hate to have them take over the world. Diversity in computing is cool and fun. Would we really be happy if Linux took over the world? There'd be no more Amiga users to poke fun at ;)

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    Moneyed corporations, non-working 'poor' and criminal prisoners are turning productive citizens into tax-slaves.

  4. Somebody help me out here by Radical+Rad · · Score: 2, Funny

    So Satan was actually Steve Jobs all along?

  5. Re:Unlikely by aussersterne · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apple doesn't have to support a bunch of odd third-party hardware, so instead everything workks REALLY well on their one platform.

    This is absolute bullshit... I have a beige G3 that is "supported" by OS X. Wanna know what happened when I bought OS X 10.1.1 to use with it?

    The SCSI CD-ROM (Apple 12x) wouldn't boot the disc. I called Apple, they said use an Apple IDE CD-ROM, the old SCSI CD-ROMs didn't have the right firmware, so I bought an Apple IDE CD-ROM.

    Then, I kept getting SCSI errors with my 2GB Apple SCSI hard drive. Yes, termination was correct. Apple responded that SCSI doesn't work very well under OS X on G3 systems due to driver issues with the built-in SCSI. They say try an IDE drive, so I go out and buy an IDE hard drive. Finally I get OS X installed.

    Then, the graphics were slow and 3D acceleration didn't seem to work properly. Apple informs me that 2D acceleration is only partially implemented on beige G3 systems and 3D not at all, use classic for that since there are no plans to augment driver support for beige G3 systems.

    So I was going to send off a letter to Apple to complain. I started up AppleWorks and typed in a nice letter, then went to try to use my Apple LaserWriter IIg, connected to my Beige G3's printer port.

    OOPS! The built-in printer port on G3 systems is unsupported (it uses, you guessed it, AppleTalk). I call again, Apple says use classic if I need to print or get a new printer and a USB card since there are no plans to support AppleTalk/LocalTalk. I already bought a new CD-ROM drive, a new hard drive, and a new OS for this Mac. No way I was going to buy a USB card and a new printer just to print.

    And unfortunately, the reason I switched away from Mac OS Classic on that machine is because the thing crashes any time you open more than four or five windows that are doing something. On my Linux box, I can open windows until the cows come home without bad effects.

    So that's my story. I was all eager to try this wonderful new Linux-killing "perfect Unix" OS X. I shelled out for it, but turns out I got the shaft from Apple on THEIR hardware -- and RECENT, SUPPORTED hardware at that. Looks like OS X is only a bait-and-switch to get you to buy a brand new Mac with each release.

    Slashdot readers are right. You can't afford OS X.

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    STOP . AMERICA . NOW
  6. Re:Unlikely by aussersterne · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, I looked at Apple literature to see if Beige G3 was a supported machine.

    Silly me. I guess I should've hired someone.

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    STOP . AMERICA . NOW
  7. But Steve Jobs said by javaaddikt · · Score: 3, Funny

    that he was mapping out the human genome on a few G4's--his supercomputers on a chip--in his basement in his spare time and was scheduled to be finished in about 2003 and start a bio tech company. Oh, then he said that with the raging speed, and blazing performance of his mega-cool, and tantalizingly awesome G4, he already rendered all the animations to his next 284 movies Pixar will release in the next 1024 years last night while he was just "taking a dump." Sure enough! "Hot fscking damn" he said--"I'm getting bored--I think I'll calculate the position of Pluto in 3026--the year a complex simulation on his G4 told him Microsoft would see its demise. You see, I'm going to be cryogenically frozen and revive myself in 3026--that's the target date. That's the plan." Meanwhile, I've left Pixar in good hands and will will brainwash the youth of the planet with the films--laden with subliminal propoganda-- I just rendered and pave the way to my triumph. I will use the genome to create hunter-killer types that will go after Microsoft. When asked if he thought Gates had plans for cryogenic storage as well, only a soft audible grunt--aparantly some veiled explicitive or insult could be heard. He was noticibly angered. He then muttered something about using his G4 to find a new element or something.