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Old Webhosting Providers Who Hijack DNS?

Posted by Cliff on from the solving-uplinker-antics dept.

linzeal asks: "Oneworld Hosting my old webhosting provider keeps hijacking my DNS records for my website Anarchists for Life and pointing it at another customer's website. I have talked to the owner of the IP block as well as my old web host a multitude of times to no avail. My new webhosting provider Trilucid has been very helpful and has even suggested legal action. Does anyone here have an idea on how to solve this problem short of that?"

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  1. How are they hijacking DNS records? by nbvb · · Score: 4, Informative

    How are they "hijacking" your DNS records?

    Who's your registrar?? How can they update the DNS records for _your_ domain? Are you listed as the zone/technical contact?

    If you gave them absolute control of the domain, then there's almost nothing you can do.

    If you are the contact for the domain, update it with your registrar and make sure they're _NOT_ listed as the tech. contact!

    Who's your DNS provider? Are they causing the problems?

  2. Here's a clue by Gothmolly · · Score: 2


    Whois on networksolutions.com

    Registrant:
    Chris Welsh
    2792 W. Jasper Dr.
    Chandler, Az 85224
    US

    Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com)
    Domain Name: ANARCHSFORLIFE.ORG
    Created on: 06-SEP-00
    Expires on: 06-SEP-02
    Last Updated on: 26-OCT-00

    Administrative Contact:
    Welsh, Chris koat@disinfo.net
    2792 W. Jasper Dr
    Chandler, Az 85224
    US
    602-254-6398

    Technical Contact:
    Welsh, Chris koat@disinfo.net
    2792 W. Jasper Dr
    Chandler, Az 85224
    US
    602-254-6398

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS3.TOMORROW2.NET
    NS4.TOMORROW2.NET
    NS2.TOMORROW2.NET
    NS1.TOMORROW2.NET

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  3. Use a thirdparty DNS site by davidu · · Score: 2

    You shouldn't really rely on a company who you are in contract with to provide you DNS service. When you leave, they have no incentive to keep pointing records for you or even make it easy for you to move.

    It's much easier to use a third party DNS provider who is either really cheap or free.

    There are quite a few cheap ones out there and a couple free ones, but of course, I won't cool my own. ;-)

    -davidu

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    1. Re:Use a thirdparty DNS site by clifyt · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I completely agree. If you are no longer with this company, get a new DNS host or PAY them.

      Having said that, I've hijacked a few myself. Clients that decided not to pay any more or screwed me over some other way. Hell, I had one a few weeks ago that was just waiting for their registration to lapse so that they could buy it back (and had some broker providing for this)...they owed me a few grand for the work I did, and decided that it wasn't good enough (even though they hired someone to take the graphics I did and translate them to their print stationary and banners)...Fuck it...I reregistered the domain myself under one of those cheap $7 a year registrars and have it pointing at one of their competitors sites. If they want to bring in a lawyer, I'll give it over, but until I get a summons, it ain't moving unless I get paid (which would be FAR cheaper than finding a lawyer willing to do this).

      So, back to the point...make sure that your old web provider was paid up, make sure they realize there are no problems between you and then and get the crap moved to your own site. I just took a look at that everydns the parent response mentioned, and this would be cool to use (and I'd consider something like this for the few domains that I have that I don't have on Register.com which has their own DNS server so I could finally get rid of my crappy little unstable DNS box I'm using now...don't even have a back up anymore).

      clif

  4. The DNS Info In Queston by Nailer · · Score: 2

    To save you all five seconds...

    Trying "anarchsforlife.org."
    HEADER opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23812
    flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

    QUESTION SECTION:
    anarchsforlife.org. IN ANY

    ANSWER SECTION:
    anarchsforlife.org. 172800 IN NS NS1.TOMORROW2.NET.
    anarchsforlife.org. 172800 IN NS NS2.TOMORROW2.NET.
    anarchsforlife.org. 172800 IN NS NS3.TOMORROW2.NET.
    anarchsforlife.org. 172800 IN NS NS4.TOMORROW2.NET.

    AUTHORITY SECTION:
    anarchsforlife.org. 172800 IN NS NS1.TOMORROW2.NET.
    anarchsforlife.org. 172800 IN NS NS2.TOMORROW2.NET.
    anarchsforlife.org. 172800 IN NS NS3.TOMORROW2.NET.
    anarchsforlife.org. 172800 IN NS NS4.TOMORROW2.NET.

    ADDITIONAL SECTION:
    NS1.TOMORROW2.NET. 172800 IN A 128.241.194.20
    NS2.TOMORROW2.NET. 172800 IN A 128.241.194.21
    NS3.TOMORROW2.NET. 172800 IN A 130.94.173.110
    NS4.TOMORROW2.NET. 172800 IN A 130.94.173.111

    Received 241 bytes from 198.142.0.51#53 in 352 ms
    [mikem@nailbox mikem]$ whois anarchsforlife.org
    [whois.crsnic.net]

    Whois Server Version 1.3

    Domain Name: ANARCHSFORLIFE.ORG
    Registrar: DOTSTER, INC.
    Whois Server: whois.dotster.com
    Referral URL: http://www.dotster.com/help/whois
    Name Server: NS1.TOMORROW2.NET
    Name Server: NS2.TOMORROW2.NET
    Name Server: NS3.TOMORROW2.NET
    Name Server: NS4.TOMORROW2.NET
    Updated Date: 18-dec-2001

    >>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:04:50 EST

    The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
    Registrars.

    [whois.dotster.com]

    Registrant:
    Chris Welsh
    2792 W. Jasper Dr.
    Chandler, Az 85224
    US

    Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com)
    Domain Name: ANARCHSFORLIFE.ORG
    Created on: 06-SEP-00
    Expires on: 06-SEP-02
    Last Updated on: 26-OCT-00

    Administrative Contact:
    Welsh, Chris koat@disinfo.net
    2792 W. Jasper Dr
    Chandler, Az 85224
    US
    602-254-6398

    Technical Contact:
    Welsh, Chris koat@disinfo.net
    2792 W. Jasper Dr
    Chandler, Az 85224
    US
    602-254-6398

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS3.TOMORROW2.NET
    NS4.TOMORROW2.NET
    NS2.TOMORROW2.NET
    NS1.TOMORROW2.NET

    Register a domain name at www.dotster.com

    End of Whois Information