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Window Maker 0.80 Released

An anonymous submitter points out that Window Maker, the window manager behind GNUStep, is now up to version 0.80. There is NEWS which describes some of the recent changes, as well as a Changelog.

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  1. Re:I guess if you're Gates... by Dwonis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or, you could accept that it's never going to happen and that it could really be better this way. All we really need is some standard way of setting icons and menus, and doing drag/drop.

  2. Re:Linux needs a standard window manager by Dwonis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's nice to say, but all current window managers currently suck in some way, and I don't ever see that changing. All we need is a more specific standard for talking between apps and deciding on icons, menus, drag/drop, copy/paste, etc (and some good docs for writing window managers using ICCCM, since I'm quite confused).

  3. Re:Linux needs a standard window manager by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful
    And the day Linux standardises on ONE Window Manager, and ONE desktop environment, and ONE Office suite, those of us who went to Linux because it gave us choices will switch to FreeBSD or some other operating system that still does.

    I'm glad Linux gives people choices. There's nothing less user friendly than an operating system whose choices have all been made for you - and against what you would have chosen.

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  4. Re:umm by Khazunga · · Score: 3, Insightful
    You obviously don't know WM. Windowmaker's version numbers grow veeeeeery slowly. True open-source fashion. Good stuff takes time to get right. Just like good wine. :-)

    And for all of you out there, who have also never tried windowmaker. Go, and take it out for a spin. Use it on your productivity desktop for a week. It's diferent, it takes time to get used to, but it pays. It never, ever stands in your way. You don't realise it's there, until you start something else by mistake and you miss yer'ol wm. That's the signature of good things!

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  5. Choices and the job market. by mgkimsal2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Linux" won't ever standardize on anything (sorry to say). Hopefully a majority of the community WILL standardize on one basic version of a desktop environment, and office suite, etc. If there's a 'defacto' standard, more people will use it. Sorry, but I don't WANT people to have to learn lots of stuff *before* using a system just to be able to make a choice.

    No one is saying to take away choices - you can go keep running sawfish all you want. But having a pronounced 'standard' will help encourage people to learn and support that standard more. The more users, the more demand for my services. If Linux, which I've invested a lot of time in learning, always remains a 'niche' player, future job prospects will be less than optimal. Let all the newbies in - that's more work for us later. Look at how many 'newbie' type Windows users there are that know just enough about a system to screw it up, then call for help. Who do they call? People that know and support Windows, not Linux. If more people are encouraged to try Linux on the desktop (because of a default - and usable - 'standard') then the more secure the job market will be for people with solid Linux skills.