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The Quest for the Spin Transistor

Daktaklakpak writes: "Found this interesting article on the IEEE Spectrum. It details the different attempts to make transistors based on electronic spin. Apparently, this technology is related to the MRAM that we've been hearing so much about."

43 comments

  1. Benefits by chrysalis · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Can anyone explain the real (concrete) benefits that such a technology will provide?

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    1. Re:Benefits by Saib0t · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      If you at least read the article, you might have an idea, but considering the time it took you to post this (one minute after the article was posted), you obviously haven't. What makes you post so fast, man? Easy Karma?

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    2. Re:Benefits by Kamran · · Score: 1

      If you read the article a few paragraphs in it says:

      'Fast, rugged, and nonvolatile, MRAMs are expected to carve out a niche from the US $10.6-billion-a-year flash memory market.'

      I think those are the concrete benefits such a technology will provide. Especially the speed.

    3. Re:Benefits by Angry+White+Guy · · Score: 1

      From what I understand, faster switching..

      Props and much bold text to your on-topic FP

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    4. Re:Benefits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      The benefits of spin technology is that I can spin you around and fuck you in your ASS!

    5. Re:Benefits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read James R. Blish's "Cities in Flight". Uses a device that spins atoms which sets up force field and make FTL travel possible. Beam me up, Mayor Amalfi.

  2. Zionist trickery by Ralph+JewHater+Nader · · Score: -1

    Do not be fooled, the jews were the real perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks! The jews who worked in the buildings fled long before the attacks were scheduled to take place! BOMB ISRAEL!

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    1. Re:Zionist trickery by yangsta · · Score: 1

      what the fuck are you smoking? wtf does the green party have to do with jews? how dare you slander ralph nader and the green party. what we should do is bomb your tight little asshole.

    2. Re:Zionist trickery by geekoid · · Score: 2

      That right, don't slander the man whose ego allowed Bush in office!

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  3. Corrilous effect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    This is especially interesting when you take into effect how things swirl in the northern hemisphere in the opposite direction of the southern hemisphere. The problem, though, is when you have a device like this, if you cross the equator, it is going to get scrambled as the spin is cancelled out. Otherwise, it should work fine (on earth), but not in space.

    1. Re:Corrilous effect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      moron

    2. Re:Corrilous effect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      This is especially interesting
      It's even more interesting when you spell it right.

      Oh, this is slashdot, nevermind.

    3. Re:Corrilous effect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      IMBECILE!

  4. Did someone say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  5. Stevie237 is a fucking bastard! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    He is! Hes worser than that famous picture!

  6. Multi-State Processors by Angry+White+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

    If a whole computer platform could be developed using spintronics, we would be no longer be bound by a binary system. Even a trinary system would give itself a seven fold speed increase.
    But that would require radical thinking and a complete redesign of the computer industry, which could take decades (plus a week for someone to port linux to it).

    AWG

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    1. Re:Multi-State Processors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Spintronics is not very promising whereas using photonic bandgap materials to build optical transistors is. See the latest SciAm for a nice article on these materials of the future computing.

    2. Re:Multi-State Processors by diddalick · · Score: 1

      We are not bound to a binary system; the idea of a trinary computing has been around for a long time.
      Think about it, a thing can essentially have (one of) three different types of charge: positive, negative and none, so that would give you a trinary system.

      There was a slashdot story on this a while ago, in fact.

  7. Attn: Jennifer Garner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Taunt moi cruel et pisse accroupie sur mon visage, alors que je fais le bruit d'un porc.

  8. Spin as I know it... by Joe+'Nova' · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Article mentions ferromagnetics cross polarised as a switch, a memory cell.

    If you cool Xenon to around 0k, it becomes an Einstein condensate-the atoms align and act as one.(Don't have link handy, search will prolly churn plenty) The idea is coherence, just as a laser aligns all it's photons polarizations. It sounds like they have learned how to do this on an atomic level. From what I also understand, domains(think quantized magnet 'particle') tends to degrade unless they are cooled/remain undisturbed.
    It does sound like a neat idea, flip an electron without having to take it anywhere, then you don't need a conductor, only a 'resonating structure' to channel the effect somewhere.

    Also mentioned is the fact it has no gain, too bad, everything we interface with needs amplification in order to operate. Even your retinas send cascades of electrons with only a single photon. If they can solve the gain problem, this would seem like one of those Moore's Law things, but I wonder how they hold up against stray magnetic/electric fields?

    Also mentioned is the energy stored,(n*2+1)/2, which suspiciously sounds like the energy levels of the electrons, ignoring the spins. Even that could be used to store information, but it would certainly be a bugger to keep the electron from transferring the energy.

    If they can come up with something equivalent to hi-temp superconductors for spins, I see alot of good coming, just not this week ;)

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    1. Re:Spin as I know it... by Ralph+JewHater+Nader · · Score: -1

      Bah. This is all zionist babble.

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    2. Re:Spin as I know it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, this stuff is alot more complicated than the article makes it seem. i work in the building where the bose-einstein condensates were first made five years ago (and got the nobel prize in physics this year). any real useful technology from this is going to be at least 5, more likely 10, years down the road. we're just begging to understand bec and using them for computing is out of the question right now. i'm still lost a little how they plan on using electron spin for memory. from everything i know spin would be great for memory as long as you didn't need to read it. like they said in the artilce spin doesn't degrade (as fast) as normal magenitism, but with spin, you have to destroy its state to read it. you cannot just look at an electron and know it's spin, once you look and know what its spin was, it then changes to a random state. kinda wierd, but that's what nature does.

    3. Re:Spin as I know it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a Bose-Einstein condensate. Credit where it's due please.

    4. Re:Spin as I know it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why can't you reset spin when you read it based on what you read?

    5. Re:Spin as I know it... by esonik · · Score: 2

      but with spin, you have to destroy its state to read it. you cannot just look at an electron and know it's spin, once you look and know what its spin was, it then changes to a random state. kinda wierd, but that's what nature

      You are thinking about a single-electron-spin transistor, however the article is not about single-eletron effects. Second, spin doesn't necessarily change randomly: say you want to distinguish up/down (z) polarization (as opposed to -x/+x or -y/+y polarization). If your electron is in either up or down and you read its z-component (up/down) it get's projected on up/down, i.e. it is not changed. Of course you don't know its x and y components but you're not interested in those anyway. If you read x or y components (i.e. project to x or y eigenstates) then of course you lose the z-polarization, but you don't have/want to do that.

    6. Re:Spin as I know it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      i work in the building where the bose-einstein condensates were first made five years ago (and got the nobel prize in physics this year).
      You or the building?

  9. WARNING: "chrysalis" is a newbie to electronics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do not bother explaining the article to him. He does not have the technical backrgound required to understand it.

  10. What have I got in my pocket? by lildogie · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Quoth the article:

    "The most exciting possibilities are the ones we're not thinking about."

    People who say things like this are leading the frontiers of technology?

    Makes me think again about the value of journalism.

    1. Re:What have I got in my pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's just the experience they made. Often you can rephrase the senctence as "The possibilities we found are great. But we even found others we were not thinking about which are even more exciting."

      Science is not linear. Sometimes you find fundamental new relations which you couldn't reasonably anticipate.

  11. Damn... by danwarne · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... from the subject line I thought this story was going to be about the quest for a product which would take a company's press release and translate the PR spin into something meaningful... ... and here I was thinking we might be onto something truly useful ;-)

    1. Re:Damn... by Alien54 · · Score: 2
      I thought this story was going to be about the quest for a product which would take a company's press release and translate the PR spin into something meaningful

      Just remember that the entire universe is based on spin. Down to the smallest bit.

      It would be horrible if the two varieties were somehow related. ;-)

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  12. Another Article by Weedstock · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here is another article about electronic spin based computing. It clearly explains, toward the end, what will be the practical applications of those experiments.

  13. Discover Magazine Article... by CheapScott · · Score: 0

    I read an interesting about this earlier this week in Discover Magazine, an article by Neil Savage, which just happens to be also available online.

  14. Back to the Future by firewort · · Score: 2



    I can't have been the only one to think of Flux Capacitor, can I?

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  15. The Quest for the Snot Trans-Snotter by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1
    THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ By J. Wipo Troll, Esq., $Revision: 1.16 $
    [This article attempts to document a vile, ungodly practice that runs rampant through the homosexual geek and hacker community, a practice known as Taco-snotting, or simply snotting. Taco-snotting is something that few geeks dare talk about in free or open conversation, but it is nonetheless a widely-practiced and dangerous form of homosexuality. If you or anyone you know has ever engaged in Taco-snotting, please get professional help before it is too late. ed.]

    Why do I keep receiving emails from an individual calling himself CmdrTaco?

    You have been receiving unsolicited mailings from a certain Robert CmdrTaco Malda, owner of the popular technology website slashdot.org. Actually, its not a very popular site in the common sense of the word; the site is rife with pimply, antisocial geeks and hackers, zit-faced nerds, communists, dirty GNU hippies, and other societal rejects and outcasts. Its also home to one of the worlds largest suspected pædophile rings, the infamous Slashdot crew.
    Whenever Mr. Malda gets bored (and who wouldnt, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the user database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual activities with him. How he determines this is anyones guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with a letter of the English alphabet in it, youre a potential candidate.
    This time, he found you. Lucky you.

    Mr. Malda seems to be speaking in some sort of code. Do you know what it means?

    CmdrTacos code language is relatively easy to decipher. This pervert prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo (yes, thats right: he wants you) to evade the watchful eye of Slashdots parent corporation, VA Software. Mr. Maldas Commander is, of course, his penis: a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants and only comes out in the presence of other male geeks or at the beck and call of Maldas own lubed-up right hand. His Taco bells are the shriveled testicles that droop beneath his Commander, and his Taco sauce is his thin, runny semen. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means if he asked you to ring his Taco bells or taste his gourmet Taco sauce.
    I would also guess CmdrTaco asked you to engage in a practice known as Taco-snotting and, if he was in a particularly depraved mood at the time, a circle-snot.

    Good Lord. And, yes, he did. What is Taco-snotting?

    Taco-snotting is the term used by Robert Malda to refer to the depraved act of fellating another man (homo- or heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumoured to prefer raping unwilling victims), then blowing the semen out his nose and back onto the face and body of his victim. Naturally, a long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTacos face, dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, Taco-snotting.
    And if thats not bad enough
    A circle-snot is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel, and Homos get together and snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum spooging their jizz-snot all over each others faces and pasty, white bodies, until theyre covered head to toe with their own and each others man juice. This vile, ungodly ritual can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limousine service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow faggots Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The homosexual shenanigans that follow are nearly beyond description. The whole group begins to snot each others spunk and whip each others pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

    Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

    Hopefully, but I wouldnt count on it.
    To begin with, you most likely forgot to uncheck the Willing to Snot checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad (do you have a homosexual-sounding nick?), and hes probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube, just waiting to pounce and declare you his new bitch. Theres no escaping a geek in heat (trust me), so its probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTacos sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to Willing to Snot. Maybe hell ignore you. Probably not.

    I cant stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

    If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot all over you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

    Have you ever been Taco-snotted?

    Unfortunately, yes. I first met Mr. Malda at an Open Source Convention. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some gourmet Tacos, but when I got there, the perverted geek jumped me and handcuffed me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his Commander out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times, virtually nonstop. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm then he snotted my own thick, gooey jizz back onto my face out of his nostrils! He snotted me two more times, first into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
    CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, Open Sauce man sauce) buddies over to continue their ungodly snotfest. European hacker and known überfaggot Linux Torvalds raped my ass with his monolithic kernel; his partner-in-crime Anal Cox used their network stack in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice of my defenseless, tender, young body. Michael Sims was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my previously-virginal ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about all those Censorware freaks out to get him.

    That is so disgusting! How did you finally escape?

    After about 16 hours of countless unholy, homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, completely covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door (of the apartment, not their back doors). Im just glad I survived the awful ordeal. These sexually-repressed hackers had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads I couldve easily been drowned!

    Thats horrible. Does Taco-snotting have anything to do with CmdrTacos special taco?

    No, thats a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. Mr. Malda is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):
    You may be wondering what CmdrTacos special taco is. You will be wishing that you hadnt been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his special taco, CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, takes out his tiny withered dick (otherwise known as his Commander), puts his special taco sauce on it which means he jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim. After all, who would knowingly eat shit and CmdrTacos jizz?
    After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTacos nefarious homosexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victims ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved. Trust me, you do not want Jon Katz anywhere near your unconscious body. Also, rumor has it CmdrTaco is looking for a new goatse.cx guy. Dont let it be you!
    Different ungodly perversion, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that Robert CmdrTaco Malda is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

    Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a pædophile, not a homosexual.

    Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual pædophile. Hes also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile.
    Mr. Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesnt involve himself in the circle-snots, but that doest mean hes any less of a freak than the rest of the Slashdot crew. Katz often engages in a game called juicy-douching with a harem of little-boy slaves that he has collected over the years: yet another vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boys urine (forced out of them with a pair of pincers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then dribbling and slathering the goo all over himself and the boys chained, naked bodies. If hes in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag from his distended anus and just squirt it from his ass onto the crying, terrified boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pincers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them at will. A boy will usually last about two years before Mr. Katz either accidentally drowns them in diarrhea or kills them once they get too old, usually around 13 or 14.
    Not content with being a pædophilic coprophile, Mr. Katz is also quite the zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys arent enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goats anus. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goats small, bean-like turds, and he often kills his older boys by letting his goats trample them.

    Are you getting hard writing this?

    Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

    No, thanks. Im already CmdrTacos boi toi.

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  16. Possible Problems by Renraku · · Score: 1

    The only problems I can see with MRAM other than the usual early-generation stuff that happens with most electronics is that we'd have to redefine the way we use our computers. Sure, we'd have a lot more power, but all of those nasty memory resident virses would tend to have a bit more bite. Before, you could just boot with a disk, clean the HDD, and you'd be free. But now, it might be a bit harder. Also, the electronics needed to run the MRAM might be a bit wasteful in terms of space and power.

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    1. Re:Possible Problems by steve_l · · Score: 1

      well, it would give you notebooks with instant wakeup and zero static power consumption; that would be cool. Or You could rip out all your main memory server side and have a persistent in memory database.

      It all depends on cost and capacity. Never underestimate the ability for existing technology to catch up by the time some advanced technology comes to market, or the willingness of DRAM vendors to lose billions of $ selling their product at a loss.

  17. alternate SPIN translator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At first glance i thought this was language tech.

    Something to separate an individual or organizations personal desires and meaning from the base information. So as to get a more bland story and see who has what interests in putting certain spices in the meal.

  18. Magnetic fields in my computer?!? by dizzydogg · · Score: 1

    I can see it now, a month after they release the first computer running with this technology, somebody is going to write a virus that sets all the values in the pc to 1, creating a magnet and wipeing out my disks and monitor. I don't know about you guys, but considering that most of this technology requires a magnetic field to set up the electron spins makes me a little nervous about installing anything using this technology with conventional electronics, where magnetism causes some very strange problems. And i doubt we will be seing a chip using lasers to change the spins due to the fact that it would be rather tough to install millions of lasers on a chip, not to mention the power draw/heat problems it would cause.

  19. Bad Pun by FrankDrebin · · Score: 2, Funny

    <pun> I guess all those PHD's mentioned in the article would be spin doctors... </pun>

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  20. A problem here... by TWX_the_Linux_Zealot · · Score: 5, Funny

    If something works off of spin, wouldn't we have to build a mirror image of one for use in Australia and New Zealand? I mean, toilets and sinks and drinking fountains spin the other direction down there, so wouldn't electrons too?

    *smile*

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  21. Spindizzy by snake_dad · · Score: 2

    Has anyone read James Bliss' "Cities in Flight"? Great sf, if you remember what year it was written. The story is based on the discovery of some weird things you supposedly could do to electron spin, enabling complete cities to enter interstellar space, using a machine called a spindizzy. Oh well, off topic probably. It's just that the article reminded me of the book.

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  22. The Quest for the Jabberwocky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Quest for the Jabberwocky