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New mailinglist OpenBSD-IPsec-Clients
Johan Allard writes "New mailinglist started discussing the use of IPsec clients connecting to a OpenBSD gateway on http://www.allard.nu/mailman/listinfo/openbsd-ipse c-clients.
I have also updated the HOWTO describing how to use PGPnet clients with OpenBSD using x509 certificates to authenticate and to use PGPnet's Acquire Virtual Identity feature. Please check http://www.allard.nu/openbsd for more details."
Uhm.
I can't speak for these "BSD Advocates", but am I not supposed to use GNU tools because I like BSD? No one told me.
It's also funny when GNU advocates get on people's assen about using GNU software.
there's more than one way to do me.
This page is for people whishing to use IPsec clients with OpenBSD as an IPsec gateway.
Umm, right.
Many BSD tools are better than the equivalent GNU tools. And many GNU tools are better than the equivalent from BSD. It all depends on what you want.
I don't know about OpenBSD, but many of the standard default tools for FreeBSD *are* from GNU. The converse situation (BSD tools in a Linux distro) is virtually nil. I suspect that the GNU advocates are the ones that can't abide foreign tools.
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
I can't think of any BSD tools worth having. What are you talking about - ls, cp, rm ? Even these simple tools are more powerful in their GNU versions. BSD has contributed so little outside of its little world. Wake up and smell the coffee.
It doesn't matter!
*BSD has never been about being big. *BSD is about people who love UNIX and want to create a superior operating system working for them. Just look at Netcrafts uptime list and you'll see loads of BSD systems doing what they do best. Being a superior server alternative.
And with Apple becoming the major *BSD provider in the world the number of *BSD systems vs Linux systems on the desktop is not even a fair calculation any more. A recent posting on Slashdot claimed that Linux clients hitting big web servers was 0.24 percent.
Soo, *BSD is dying! Long live *BSD!!!
The GNU versions of the basic Unix tools are larger than the BSD versions, primarily because they add a whole bunch of functionality. That's good if you have the space. But it's not good if you're in an embedded or tiny environment.
One BSD tool worth having (off the top of my head as an example): sh. Plain old sh. On my current system sh is 34K and bash is 388K. Big difference. Guess which shell I want on my rescue disk? In addition, even if bash is your primary shell (as it is mine), it still pays to make sure your shell scripts are bourne compatible. Then if you have sh on your system, instead of merely a symlink to bash, you'll use fewer resources running them. For a busy server or a slow machine it can make a noticable difference.
BSD has contributed so little outside of its little world.
It's time for YOU to wake up and smell the coffee. Sendmail, BIND, vi, TCP/IP, lpd, Berkeley DB, etc.
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
IIS is growing. Is IIS good??
Just the compiler toolchain is GNU, and Sendmail,
though I don't know why - nowhere in the files
there's a comment about it being GPL, neither
it is linked to a GPL'ed lib, or am I wrong?
Maybe as it was with "GNU" Common Lisp...
My Karma isn't excellent, damn it! (And
Compared to the equivalent BSD tools? Probably.