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Dave Barry Does Windows

retrosteve writes: "Well, it's finally happened. Someone (Dave Barry) in the popular press has finally, explicitly and with a sense of humour, pointed out that Microsoft Windows doesn't get any more reliable or usable, no matter how many versions you buy."

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  1. The Inmates. by SocialWorm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The way Dave Barry keeps on talking about how the computer "blames him" reminds me of the way Alan Cooper said that error messages are often worded to make "The User" feel responsible when something goes wrong.

    Personally, I just think of error messages as "status indicators" -- much like a "paper jam" light on a copy machine. Apparently lots of other people don't feel this way.

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  2. Dilbertism by xueexueg · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Unfortunately, this isn't "Someone in the popular press pointing out that Microsoft Windows doesn't get any more reliable or usable." Any more than Dilbert comics are "Someone in the popular press pointing out that upper management has seriously flawed priorities and is usually much stupider than the drones".

    I say this not because Dave Barry is a humorist. It is possible for humorists, comedians or whatever, to really get people pissed off motivated, or at least make people think: think Lenny Bruce; think "A Modest Proposal". But Dave Barry and Dilbert are not that kind of humor. They are both the kind of humor that makes its reader laugh at himself, giggle at the funny things people do, the funny stuff we get ourselves into, without thinking for a moment that any real change is necessary. I've always felt that Dilbert is an oppressive force, because by making people think that incompetent management is normal and funny, it keeps people from bothering to actually demand competent management. Same thing with this column: by commiserating about Windows, by poking fun at the flaws that it has on every level, from technological to social, it serves only to further entrench people in a Windows monopoly. I'm sure this column is making the rounds at Microsoft, and I'm sure it is universally loved. I bet Bill Gates tapes it to his monitor, or invites Dave Barry to his next keynote. The message here is "Windows is crap, but there are 200,000,000 people in America who will NEVER SWITCH TO ANOTHER OS, NO MATTER WHAT. Ha ha ha."

    This is not to say that humor necessarily trivializes an issue: maybe it's a distinction between "parody" -- which, we'll say, gently pokes fun without suggesting alternatives, thereby reinforcing norms -- and "satire" -- which, let's say, savagely disillusions people and has at least a shot at changing their minds.

  3. Re:emergency? dial 911 fast by statusbar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    2 years ago I picked up my phone. No dial tone. Huh. Did I forget to pay my bill? No. Checked the wiring and the phone. 15 minutes later still no dial tone. My cell phone worked though, so I called the operator and asked her about my phone.

    The problem was that Spice Girls tickets just went on sale. The phone call load to the nearby Ticket Master outlet flooded the system. No one in my area had a dial tone for half an hour. No one could call 911 on a land line!

    Problems happen even with properly engineered systems. When an improperly designed system is put into place, all hell will break loose.

    I'm not just talking Microsoft here, there is a real problem with companies/programmers seeing their system work once, and then assuming it is good enough to ship.

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  4. Re:Win2k, XP by astrashe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I agree with you about the reliability -- they've made great strides. For a long time it seemed that they just didn't care, but as soon as linux appeared on the distant edge of the radar screen they started to get serious.

    In this sense, linux has already done the vast majority of PC users a great service.

    They still don't seem to be taking security seriously, though, and I think it's going to hurt them. The problem isn't buffer overflows, or individual programming mistakes -- the problem is that they pick business models and marketing strategies even if those models and strategies entail inherently unsecurable designs.

    All of the virus problems flow out of MS's desire to link products -- that's why word processor documents can contain VB programs, and why email clients used to open up office docs automatically.

    As other people have pointed out, MS has plenty of smart engineers working for them -- there had to have been people there complaining about this. But they didn't have the clout to carry the day. It must be frustrating as hell to be a security wonk at MS.

    I predict that .NET is going to be the biggest security quagmire in the industry's history, and as MS has said repeatedly, they're "betting the company on .NET".

    The whole .NET idea is to allow developers to build programs VB style, except that the components can live anywhere on the Internet. By "VB" style, we're talking about low end programmers who don't cost as much as the other guys -- are these guys going to be able to think about threats in a sophisticated way?

    The security seems to be tacked on to this model as an afterthought, and it doesn't inspire much confidence in me. Passport's already had problems, and that service was designed by MS itself, and it's at the very center of their business model.

    Who believes that the low end visual developers who populate so many corporate offices are going to do a better job than the elite MS employees who built Passport? .NET is a train wreck waiting to happen.

  5. Who really knows windows? Or linux? by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not many people can say they know the entire system, every program, every lib, dll or driver.

    Windows and Linux(or BSD) for the whole distribution take hundreds of megabytes. Yes, Even thou linux the kernel can boot up under a meg and give you a shell its rather useless other than a rescue disk.

    Windows XP is a great workstation os. There is just so much going on you need 3rd party utilities to see whats happening. Tasks running in the background, files loading and unloading, registry updates/calls, files trying to update themselves, etc.. And then there is all the tweaks you have to put on for common sense options, tcp/ip QOS at 80% wasting 20% of your bandwidth, Explorer and Internet Explorer sharing the same memory if 1 crashes they both crash, Turning off Last access attribute in ntfs for performance, etc... Play around with sys-internals utilities you can see programs looking for missing fonts, updates to the registry, all kinds of system functions.

    Linux on the other hand is rather up front with what it needs. You see what libs a program needs with ldd. lsof shows all files open and what program is using them. Good for a server, more secure when you know whats running. Bad points are the software releases, even thou most of the software is free, it can either not compile, not like the version of libraries you have, or need libraries you cant find. You don't have these problems on the windows os.

    Even thou things are getting more complex, things are getting better. Good linux distributions that install and detect most hardware, X configuration, less configuration and more operation. Windows XP has a nice GUI, very intelligent user interface, more stable, great workstation os.

    Only thing that scares me, is if M$ goes totally .net. I like being in control of my OS, and Linux isn't ready to take over the Desktop yet. Maybe in 10 years Games and Applications will run on any OS, but until then, M$ will keep the market.

    I dont see the OS as perfected yet, but its come along way since DOS.

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  6. Re:emergency? dial 911 fast by Erris · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The problem was that Spice Girls tickets just went on sale. The phone call load to the nearby Ticket Master outlet flooded the system. No one in my area had a dial tone for half an hour. No one could call 911 on a land line!

    Don't confuse the issue. There's a big difference between failing because of an overload and just never working.

    The New York Times ran dozzens of articles about what a pain it was for victims to get help. Collection became a full time effort as they wandered from agency to agency and filled out horrendous and mind numbing forms with exactly the same information! They did this instead of finding loved ones, shelter, clothes or food.

    While agencies not sharing information is nothing new, you have to wonder how much more could have been done if those agencies were using reasonable software. Nothing M$ talks to anything else M$. I know, because we use the junk at my Fortune 500 company. What proportion of innacurate, duplicate, non shared data came from inadequate tools, and what share from the nature of the organizations themselves? It's had to tell about there from here, but where I work it's hard to share information you want to share with other departments in the same building, much has to be entered multiple times and is often corrupted, and data sometimes just goes away on it's own. No, our tech support folks are not incompetent. No, the people I work with are not incompetent. We simply have second rate tools. Pity those same tools have been used in an emergency situation.

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  7. Re:emergency? dial 911 fast by weave · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Businesses who expect crushes of calls occasionally, like radio stations and ticket companies, are SUPPOSED to get a number within a "choke exchange."

    These exchanges are specifically designed to communicate back to other COs when a crush of calls happen. Those COs back off and return busy to everyone in the CO trying to get that number for a period of time to prevent the end-point CO from going down. ie, they don't even attempt to complete the call.

    Ever wonder why all the radio station contest lines are all in the same exchange in your area?!

    I suspect the spice girl ticket number was not on a choke exchange like it was supposed to be.

    Here's a tip. Next time you need to get a call through to a choke exchange number, get a friend from out-of-the-area to try it. If Philadelphia is having tickets go on sale for some big act at 9am, chances are there won't be people from Nebraska calling in. Their CO won't be "choked."

  8. Re:MSCE by Geek+In+Training · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Systems Administrator (21yo, 4YR exp, Clue, MCP, SCNA, SCSA) = $39,500 + Shitty bene's.

    If I may be so bold as to contribute, I think you could be doing better, as long as your count "real companies" only as your experience, in lieu of "freelance consultant" as your 4 years' experience.

    I do Widnows NT and in-house application support for a large company, which categorizes me as a "Senior Application Systems Programmer." For me, it's 26 yo, 7 years exp (3 years as tech support/PC maintenance at University, 4 years at my current corporation), Clue, no certs = 49,000 + 100% Matching 401K, Pension, 4 weeks vacation, Full Medical and Dental for benefits.

    After three years at minimum wage at the University, I applied for two full-time positions paying $16,500 and $18,000 US and was denied for both for having insufficient education and experience. The corporation (which required me to move out of state, but back home for me) offered me $35,000 to start, and I've gotten two good raises, one cost of living increase, and one promotion in four years. Without any college to speak of, or any certifications.

    Just my experience. On the other hand, you may just have to prove yourself with a couple of years corporate experience before someone else will pay you "market value."

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  9. Re:Funny, but untrue. by f00zbll · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Win2K was an upgrade from NT4.0, since NT4 didn't support dvd or directX 7+ correctly. XP on the other hand feels like a down grade to me. Not only is the interface ugly (some will like it, I don't), but all the extra services running in the background makes it run slow with 128. There are a few nice features in XP, like network settings now allows a second set. Though I really wish it allowed more, like 5-10 since laptop often are on 3+ networks (dialup, work, home).

    The home edition especially is a lame disabled version of win2K. The new web look of folders, control panels is pretty ugly and annoying. It's a good thing you can change it to classic. Overall, XP is a better OS than 95/98, but it is still not better than win2K. But I'm biased.

  10. Windows XP? Are you kidding? by letxa2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Try WinXP? Are you kidding?

    I still use Win98SE. It doesn't usually crash, but I do usually reboot it every couple of days to make sure I clean any memory leaks. But other than that, it's pretty decent. I'll switch to Linux as soon as there is enough of a market to justify developing programs for it.

    But XP? Never.

    A friend of mine just bought a new laptop which, of course, came with XP installed. I had heard that XP was as much as 40% slower than 98 on the same hardware. I have a Pentium II-550 (bought it 1.5 years ago) and he has some new fangled 1.0GHz+ machine. The details are unimportant. The fact is, we did some speed tests and my machine ran several tests faster using the same software. And his hardware is at least twice as fast as mine!

    Another friend of mine purchased a new desktop system, I believe it was HP. Came pre-installed with XP (his coice). The hardware came and we tried to get some of his favorite games working. They would not, or executed too slowly. He later tried to get the thing to dual boot between Win98SE and WinXP. He couldn't make it happen. A few days later he emailed me and told me he had returned the machine to HP and he would be receiving a "custom-built" system from HP... With Win2K, I believe.

    There is nothing in WinXP that is worth your time and money. It is slower than previous versions of Windows. The look-and-feel has changed (again). It looks like a kiddie cartoon, not a serious OS. I don't believe it to be any more reliable than the uncounted times in the past that MS has said their new OS was "the most reliable yet." They've said that with every release of Windows since 3.1.

    I'll be helping my laptop friend install either Win98SE or Win2K on his laptop sometime in the next week.

    The only cool thing about WinXP is the Ray of Light music they play in the commercials. Unfortunately, they have ruined that song for me since I can't listen to the song without thinking of XP.

  11. It's (very gradually) starting to happen by Brian+Knotts · · Score: 3, Interesting
    True story: my Mom (in her 50s) recently moved, and left her old computer behind. She's not a computer expert or anything, but does all right once stuff is set up for her.

    Anyhow, she needed a new computer, but didn't want to spend much money. So, she goes down to Fry's, and they sell her a $300 machine with "Fast Windows" preinstalled. You guessed it...it's some sort of weird Taiwanese Linux distribution!

    Someone figured out they could hit a price point by eliminating the most expensive item in a PC today: Microsoft software.