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Driver's Licenses to Become National ID Cards

XorNand writes: "Time is reporting that the Dept of Transportation, acting on instructions from Congress, is in the process of linking together states' drivers' license databases. They figure that it'll be cheaper and easier to slip under the radar of civil libertarians and privacy watchdogs. Wonder if Larry is a bit peeved that he's not getting his cut?"

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  1. Pretty much the standard as it is... by 11thangel · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't know very many places that don't require a driver's license as the standard form of identification. State sponsored photo ID's are basically the only form of ID that is accepted everywhere (i.e. using personal checks at stores, getting into nightclubs, etc). Making em national isn't going to be much of a change, except for 2 things. 1) Your less likely to be thrown out of a club in another state for having an ID they don't recognize, and 2) You can't get away with speeding in another state quite as easily, because now the state trooper has access to ALL the state databases :)

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  2. not quite by twitter · · Score: 4, Informative
    There will simply be a blank driver's license space under your social security number. The other information will be filled in from private databases that the federal government can now demand under the Patriot Act (or whatever it was called). Sure enough that Sam's card photo will provide all the information some deranged file jockey thinks he needs for facial recognition software. All the careful records your insurance company has been keeping will go in. The debt collectors have had them for years, as an aquantence painfully made aware a friend of mine who defaulted on a pap smear. Enough data is available is available to eliminate inconsistencies due to errors or intention.

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  3. Re:Shouldn't it be... by MaxwellStreet · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is true - states can choose to play ball, or not to.

    For example, the Feds decided that they'd like the national speed limit to be 55 mph back in the seventies(?).

    They couldn't mandate the speed limit on the interstates, but -could- withhold federal highway funds from states that elected not to enact the limits.

    So you're correct when you say that the Feds don't have the power to mandate this - but they carry a pretty big financial stick to persuade states to play ball.

  4. Most states will issue a non-drivers-license ID. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most (all?) states will issue non-drivers a state ID card, typically through the same agency that issues driver's licenses.

    Essentially it's the same as a driver's license except it doesn't license you to drive. Use it to prove your identity, residency, and age, buy booze, cash checks, etc.

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  5. Already national commercial database by peter303 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The states drivers records databases are collected into a central commerical database already for the purposes of (1) driver insurance (2) car rental screening (3) job application screening (integrity) and (4) general credit screening.

  6. Re:Excellent! by nathanm · · Score: 5, Informative

    They did pass a law like this at one time, but it was ruled unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court under Brown v. Texas in 1979.

    On the grounds of the 4th Amendment, you may not be punished for refusing to identify yourself, unless they have reasonable suspicion that you engaged in criminal conduct. So if you're stopped for a traffic violation, you do have to identify yourself if requested.