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GNU GPL law and "lagom" copyright

Johannes writes "Newsforge column on "lagom" copyright. I think we need to discuss these issues more. Maybe a GNU GPL law isn't so bad after all. As Pawlo states: "Would not a modern democratic society benefit from a plurality of irreconcilable and incompatible doctrines? We need the GNU GPL, but we also need proprietary software, Open Source software, BSD licenses, the Apache license and so forth. That would make the case for GNU GPL legislation void. However, as Lawrence Lessig taught us in his book Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace, the code may in itself work against plurality.""

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  1. Re:Let me guess... by psamuels · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Actually, I prefer a longer copyright term to help protect the families of artists.

    OK, you currently get life plus 70 years. That will allow your great-grandchildren to continue to profit from your work. Work which they had no part in, nor did their parents, nor their grandparents.

    Can you explain why you don't think this is long enough?

    If you really write the Great American Novel, but its genius is not recognized until 50 years after you're dead ... I say that should just be tough luck for your descendents.

    I see no reason for any copyright to extend more than 30 years. If you are still relying financially on something you wrote 30 years ago ... get a day job already, you're a has-been, not a great artist.

    As for your wife - if you were smart you saved and invested while you were making the big bucks for 30 years, so she should have plenty of inheritance anyway.

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  2. Re:GPL is defensive by smallpaul · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Never forget that the BSD and most other license are very weak at protecting our collective work in the current environment. Under BSD, any company could take our code, slightly change a protocol, patent it and sue the original authors,

    That is simply not true. Unless their "slight change" introduces a new concept, there is nothing to patent. If it does introduce a new concept then it is the concept that is patented, not the particular software implementation that happens to build on BSD-based software. They could have patented the idea even without doing an implementation! The GPL is no protection against patents.

    and even without patent it could sue for frivolous legal reasons or prevent any further work on the original source base.

    The GPL is no protection against frivolous law suits either! I could sue you today for anything. GPL versus BSD has nothing to do with it.

  3. bias of "should proprietary software be illegal?" by bkuhn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It appears that there are a number of confusions in Pawlo's article that I
    would like to clear up, if possible.

    It is ultimately biased to discuss whether or not "someone wants to make
    proprietary software illegal". Proprietary software is, as Pawlo's
    article notes, based on copyright law. Copyright law is a construct
    created by various legal systems throughout the world, and it makes
    proprietary software possible.

    Laws exist in Free societies for the good of the public. The question
    that we raise in the Free Software Movement is: "When copyright law is
    applied to software, does it have a negative or positive effect on
    society?" And, "If that effect is negative, what changes must be made so
    that the public is best served in the realm of software?"

    These are hard questions to consider, and are by and large ignored in
    today's Free Software debates. I theorize that they are ignored for two
    reasons: (a) none of us in the Free Software community have the means to
    change existing copyright law anyway and (b) we already have legal tools
    that allow us to work for software freedom within the existing copyright
    system. In a sense, we have a working solution to the problem.

    The GNU GPL is a legal tool that works within the copyright system to
    build a world with software freedom for all. However, the GNU GPL never
    tries to do an end-run around existing copyright law, nor could it; it is
    a copyright license. The GNU GPL is the interim solution that is designed
    to give and defend freedom in a world where proprietary software exists
    and is the norm.

    In the future, perhaps our congresses, houses of parliament, and political
    leaders will be ready to have the debate about how copyright for software
    could be changed to truly serve society. The Free Software Movement
    should be ready and poised to enter that debate when it begins. However,
    we at the FSF by and large don't actively propose ideas of how software
    copyright law could be changed to serve society better. It just seems
    silly to play "what-if"---focusing on a message that our politicians
    aren't ready nor willing to hear. So, we focus on battles we can likely
    win: opposition of extending copyright law any further, and a repeal of
    the DMCA and DCMA-like laws worldwide.

    The Free Software Movement is unique among social movements; we currently
    have the means to create the commons we want (i.e., hacking talent) and
    the legal tools to defend that commons (i.e., the GNU GPL). I suggest
    that we focus on building a better commons and defending the commons we
    have, rather than arguing about what we would do if we suddenly became

    president or prime minister.

    I agree that "what-if" and self-satire are fun games to play at a cocktail
    party. However, we have a serious and hard road ahead of us to win
    software freedom for computer users. I hope that we can close this debate
    that has dragged on and on in our community. I suggest that we focus on
    what we need to do in the coming year to defend the software freedom we
    have, and to give software freedom to more people who don't have it yet.