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10GHz Processors and Ultraviolet Lithography

hoyosa writes "This article on zd-net reports that Extreme Ultraviolet LLC has built the first ultraviolet lithography stand for manufacturing processors. Will this make silicone obsolete? " Some interesting bits in there. Also "Soon" means we won't see actual chips until oh, say 2005, so don't hold your breath or anything.

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  1. "will this make silicone obsolete?" by Stone+Rhino · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, this does not have anything to do with breast implants, but it WILL make silicon obsolete.

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  2. Re:Et tu, ZDNet? by edwarddes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the fastest processors on terms of clock speed may be the p4 and its multigigahertz, but think of all the other processor lines that are MUCH faster at lower clock speeds computationaly wise(powerpc-power4, alpha, itanium...)

  3. Read the article? by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Extreme Ultraviolet LLC has built the first ultraviolet lithography stand for manufacturing processors.

    Um, we've been using UV for a while now. This company has built the first _Extreme_ UV rig. This is especially obvious as a press release when you realize that they can define EUV as beginning more or less wherever they feel like. The term "EUV" was coined when "X-Rays" got a bad name in lithography circles (it used to be "deep UV", "Soft X-Rays", "Hard X-Rays").

    Will this make silicone obsolete?

    a) "Silicon".

    b) No.

    The article says:

    "EUV technology is very extendable...and we have demonstrated that it would work down to the 30-nanometer level," Gwyn said.

    Barring a new invention, which is always possible, "It should take us to the end of silicon...as we know it today," he said.


    In english: The limits of silicon technology will run out before the limits of EUV technology.

    They're not ending silicon - they're saying that as long as silicon will be around, photolithography will be around.

  4. Re:Another Moore's Law misquote? by CyberDruid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nope.
    It is often misquoted as saying something about double speed in 18 months. The CPU-speed is actually somewhat closer to 12 months nowadays (or, so I've read from at least two independent researchers). What's holding the computers back is bus-speed, which doubles approx. every 3 years.

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  5. time to smell the coffee by f00zbll · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The news world needs to wake up and realize what a load of BS these articles are. Some posts mentioned the need for more bandwidth and I totally agree, but having done some simple tests with PC hardware, it is sufficient for entry level.

    Out of curiousity, I compared mpeg play back on both windows2K and BeOS on a dual P3 450 system with 32mb video and 512mb of ram. BeOS was able to play back full screen without skipping. Win2K skipped probably a few frames every minute and was very noticeable. Now I wasn't being very scientific about the test obviously, I just wanted to see if the hardware was capable of full screen (1280 X 1024 res) play back. The answer from a viewing perspective is yes.

    Although the older P3 architecture running on 100mhz bus with a single CPU isn't good enough for professional quality video editing (non-linear editing), the newer systems would perform much better. In comparison, a lot of professionals use Mac and Final Cut Pro 3. Having a 10ghz CPU will do very little for non-linear video editing.

    The hardware needs better bus architecture and the OS needs to be designed for streaming large amounts of data rapidly, which windows NT kernel currently does not do well. Microsoft has tried to get their systems into film school for editing with poor results. Linux isn't any better in that respect, so the only viable solution (BeOS) for PC video editing is gone.

    As more consumers get comfortable with video and music editing, the OS will have to change to meet the demand. If microsoft and intel doesn't, some one else will. This whole mhz battle won't go on forever. At some point, it will cease being the primary factor for consumer PC's.