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Interview With iMac designer, Jonathan Ive

rleyton writes "The Independent has an interesting interview with Jonathan Ive, the designer of the new imac (and the iBook, the iPod and original iMac...)" It's actually a pretty interesting even if you think the new iMac is repulsive. Personally I dig it.

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  1. What do you think of Vincent Jeunejean? by Chairboy · · Score: 2, Flamebait
    What was your reaction when you first heard about the Wired article where a Belgian designer suggests Apple copied him becase he had sketches that match the new iMac online last year? His sketches are interesting because they appear to have port locations and stuff down as well.

    I know that the lead times of a project like this preclude apple from actually using his design, but when you saw the article, what was your reaction?

    Didja think it had been leaked?

  2. Re:new iMAC by MrFredBloggs · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I dont really know what my pc looks like, as its out of the way. Sometimes i need to stick a cd in it, or (rarely) a floppy, but even then i dont really look at it.
    And if i were bothered, i`d spray it black. But i`m not.

    And i don`t think i`ll be using a Mac clone in 6 months. I couldnt tell you whether Apple users will be using PC clones in the next year or so however, but its a more likely scenario.

  3. Quality isn't worth it due to rapid change by pjc50 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It takes many man-years to design a quality product with good "fit and finish", which is pleasing, and which is well thought out for the task it is intended for.

    However, in the computing world, network effects almost totally dominate all other considerations. A low-quality early product will beat out an incompatible late-arriving better product. What people want from their tools varies rapidly over time, so flexibility is more important than static perfection.

    If no new hardware or software technologies were invented for the next five years, people probably would start to migrate towards choosing hardware and software for aesthetic and lifestyle reasons; might be able to make valid long-term comparisons of what they feel like to use; might be able to better justify changing the way they do things.

    But not any time soon.

  4. Re:What I'd ask by rlowe69 · · Score: 3, Flamebait

    Please explain how this dongle protects Apple's interests - after all, when you've got the dongle, you plug it into a regular PC-standard monitor! It's not like the dongle ties you into Apple-brand displays. The dongle does not protect Apple's interests in any way, it's just a PITA.

    I thought this was self-evident, but Apple wants to make sure that you ONLY use their own flatscreen LCD on the new iMac.

    This reduces the quality control factor a LOT. Apple only has to worry about ONE video card and monitor configuration. Whereas PC manufacturers have to worry about an infinite number of possiblities. Think of the savings in support costs alone.

    THAT is protecting one's interests.

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  5. Re:Go read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenan by erlando · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    You are quoting a Microsoft software designer on software design. Wow, that has to redefine either "guts" or "insanity".
    Just because he was a Microsoft employee at one time doesn't automatically make all his statements false. The book I linked is actually quite respected on the area of user-interface design.
    Every machine is the creation of a human. Some of those creations have a beauty and functionality surpassing that of others. Part of that can be unquanitifiable, and it is that that is a machine's "soul"
    Ah, come on.. Get off the weed. I'd dignify this if every computer was handcrafted from scratch. The mass-produced iMac (or any computer for that matter) has as little soul as the stone I just kicked outside. In fact the stone might even have a fraction more...
    Cocoa, meaning the frameworks and objective C language in this case, is the best object oriented programming environment I've ever seen.
    Sorry, I was a little fast there. apple.com was unresponsive, so I took the next-best rated link on Google. Apparently I jumped the gun. (This would also mean that I haven't tried Cocoa).
    And "not where the money is"??? OK, it's true you can make more money if you use VB than if you program in Cocoa. I'm not aware of any decent programs written in VB, or any decent programmers who use VB, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.
    And excatly where did you get the impression that I program in VB? I don't. VB is proprietary and platform-specific making it out of the question for my use. So is Cocoa for that matter (yes, apple.com is now responding to my requests). As quoted from the apple site: The Cocoa application environment is designed specifically for Mac OS X-only native applications. Mac OS X-only..? Thanks but no thanks... At least not until OS X gets a substancially bigger slice of the market both server- and desktop-wise. I'll stick with my platform-independant ANSI C++ thank you very much.
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    Remember, there are no stupid questions. But there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
  6. Re:new iMAC by Bob+Abooey · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Ah yes, it's an LCD screen, thanks for reminding me. I didn't even mention that fact that you are stuck with that, regardless of the shortcomings of an LCD vs CRT with regards to picture quality, refresh rate, etc. Sure you save on space, but for people who use their computers quite a bit it would be nice to have an option to have a bulky CRT that *really* supports 16 million colors and looks good, as opposed to an LCD which doesn't look bad, but still can't match a mid range CRT or picture quality.

    But then again, buying a Mac isn't about choice, it's about illusion.

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    All the best,
    --Bob

  7. Clumsy thing... by Nindalf · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    "you won't be able to find a single thing on an Apple that hasn't had thought put into it"

    How about the USB port placement? Why on earth isn't this on the front of the iMac, or better yet, with a hub built into the keyboard?

    How about sound? The oddball video port? How about being able to buy the thing without the cheesy laptop screen so it's not in the way of your good screen?

    Its awkward shape makes it tough to hide away in a corner like a traditional box PC, instead, this ugly blob insists on grabbing your attention like a spoiled child.

    This design is as crude and silly as the original iMac. It has plenty of immediately obvious, easily corrected shortcomings (remember the puck mouse?), and many subtle ones associated with its unorthodox design. As Apple continues to jump around from radical redesign to radical redesign, rather than correct known flaws in past experiments to provide real design quality, they will continue to surprise their users with unexpected difficulties. No doubt we'll be hearing about plenty of them in a month or two.