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More on Future X-Box Capabilities

rtphokie writes "The oft - rumored expansion of Microsoft's Xbox from a gaming console to a more full featured entertainment hub is taking a little more shape. A C|Net article tells of a HomeStation device which is claimed to be slated for a fall release. In addition to Xbox game compatibility and DVD functionality, it is reported to have TiVo/UltimateTV like PVR functionality as well as WebTV like email and web surfing capabilities. This "report" comes on the heels of the announcement of the Moxi Digital set-top MoxiMedia Center which was named "Best of Show" at the recent Consumer Electronics Show."

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  1. Beatrice? by psychophil.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone rememember many years back the Beatrice commercials? You'd see commercials for everyday brand name products and that last second of the commercial was a little jingle and the words 'We're Beatrice'.

    Remember how fast thost commercials went away? People start freaking out when they realizes that 65-75% of the products they use where produced by a single company. Beatrice quickly dropped the 'look how freaking large we are' strategy and went back to just promoting the single brand names on their own.

    I can't help but think the same thing is going to happen to microsoft. People are going to suddenly wake up and realize the the MS logo is on their computer, tv's, vcr's/dvr's, video games, toddler toys, kitchen appliances, car electroncs, etc...

    1. Re:Beatrice? by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I'm not so sure. I mean, my TV, stereo receiver, speakers, DVD player, DVD movies, CD player, video game console and car stereo all have SONY stamped on them. Yet I don't see people freaking out about that.

      When it comes to software, yes people freak out because of the monopoly issue. However, when it comes to hardware and gadgets, Joe Average isn't so afraid. Normal folk don't think of Microsoft as a hardware company like Sony or Panasonic. Perhaps they should, considering how well MS has done with the X-Box so far. I think we're still a few years off from having Microsoft suffering from the "Beatrice Effect". People still have the general perception that MS is still a software company.

  2. Re:I'm sick of the quote marks by SpinyNorman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It deserves the scare quotes because it's a security analyst pushing one of his stocks - it's not an objective report.

  3. Interesting, smart move... by alexhmit01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With the release of the Xbox as it is, it was a retarded move. They released a mediocre PC masquerading as a game console with mediocre games.

    The only extras were the DVD (Sony beat them here) and the MP3 ripping/playing.

    This isn't MS.

    Microsoft strategy is to bundle several mediocre implementations in one box, undercut the competition, and establish a monopoly.

    See MS Word vs. Wordperfect, Word got clobbered.
    Excel vs. 1-2-3, Excel got clobbered.

    Solution, sell "Office" for less than Wordperfect was individually? Boom, market yours.

    Look at the 3 consoles. PS2 wins if you want a quantity of games, period. If you are into renting new games all the time with lots of variety, you need a PS2.

    Gamecube has an amazing controller, tremendous graphics, and the best hardware in the business. (Blah, blah, blah, Mhz, blah, blah, blah, the Xbox processor is going to be slow compared to a customized PPC G3 with a game-taillored vector unit... think Altivec on crack in Photoshop shootouts... Intel only looks good in integer math... games don't do integer math...) Also it brings Nintendo's franchises, which are the best in the business.

    What does Xbox have? Hype? Newness?

    Microsoft needs to leverage more than their cash (willingness to lose $3 billion over three years to establish a presence is stupid... Atari, Nintendo, and Sony each dominated the market their first time out the door). There is no market openning now as there was Sony entered (3rd party hatred of Nintendo and Sega). The market loves Sony and the 25m-30m Nintendo fans love Nintendo.

    Microsoft needs to bundle:
    a mediocre DVD player
    a mediocre video game player
    a mediocre MP3 jukebox
    a mediocre PVR (VCR Replacement)

    and price them all at $300. I don't care about the specs, but they need to force families to think, "Sure the PS2 plays DVDs and games, but the MS Homestation does all this for the same price!"

  4. Thank You by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Thank you for once again pointing out the idiotic bias of the editors of this site. Its not only dishonest, its an insult to the rest of us who like our reporting somewhat unvarnished (which should be everyone who graduated from high school).

    Unfortunately as the linux industry comes down from its 2001 high, sites like this are devolving into raw, unreasoned advocacy. check out comp.os.os2.advocacy circa about 1996 to see where /. is heading.

  5. ... by vukv · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All anti-ms feelings aside, It only makes sense for them to do so.. basically it is ultimatetv+xbox... they will need to add larger hard drive to it and maybe more CPU and ram but they will be able to charge more for it as well... and believe it or not, if they keep the price under 500$-600$, it will even be to the benefit of consumers... why pay for 700$ replaytv, when you can get similar features plus gaming console... only makes sense for them... hell, even I might considered getting one as long as pvr features are good

  6. Does this mean microsoft is transforming? by f00zbll · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It would appear this is all part of a broader change at Microsoft led by Balmer? These kinds of development could be an indication of where PC technology is going in the future and how it will infiltrate other markets.

    Personally, I like this movement for several reasons.

    1. for a PC to become a consumer product, the operating system has to be rock solid
    2. for PC hardware manufacturers it means more markets and therefore possibility lower the cost of production and development
    3. for the consumer, the PC-ness of computers will begin to disappear and become transparent

    If this trend is for real and the drive is more than just fad, it bodes well for computer users. Not only will this mean better stability, but lower prices.

    On the otherhand, microsoft could hit a huge wall and realize how hard it is to build a truly reliable operating system and decide to back out. I doubt that will happen for a couple reasons. Microsoft's goals are to maximize share holder value and please the analysts. In order to do that, they have to diversify and expand the markets to minimize the impact of PC consumer demands. Considering the resources Microsoft has at its' disposal, it just might pull it off.

  7. Stop with the Swiss Army Knife! by laetus · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Sure, this thing might be nice in the living room. But you know what I'm really looking for? A small terminal in several rooms in my house where I can access my email, IM, and the web.

    And I don't want a $1000 PC in each room.

    When is someone going to create a credible web terminal with a small keyboard and an LCD screen that I can hookup to my DSL or Cablemodem and not have to pay MS or Compaq monthly fees for connecting to their network?

    --

    "We're sorry, but the website you're trying to reach has been disconnected."
  8. so how is Sony any different ? by sh0rtie · · Score: 2, Insightful


    "People are going to suddenly wake up and realize the the MS logo is on their computer, tv's, vcr's/dvr's, video games, toddler toys, kitchen appliances, car electroncs, etc

    but people havent woken up to Sony yet , Sony are just about the only company that can complete the circle from not only producing the Artists that make the media (and the equipment they use to create it) to delivering it to the consumers eyes/ears on their Sony stereo/TV/computer/etc yet people still shower them with praise and dont feel they are a monopoly, even microsoft are not in Sonys exclusive position

  9. Re: Beatrice by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Small nitpick - ESPN is owned by Disney, which in turns controls:
    • ABC Television Network, several television stations (WABC, KABC, WLS, WPVI, KGO, KTRK, WTVD, KFSN, WJRT, WTVG), Buena Vista, ABC Radio Network, several radio stations (WABC, WPLJ, KABC, KSPN, KDIS, KLOS, WLS, WMVP, WRDZ, WPJX, WZZN, KGO, KSFO, KMKY, WWJZ, KMKI, WBAP, KSCS, KMEO, KESN, WJR, WDRQ, WDVD, WMAL, WJZW, WRQX, KMIC, WMYM, WDWD, WKHX, WYAY, KKDZ, KDIZ, KQRS, KXXR, WGVX, WGVY, WGVZ, KMIK, WSDZ, WEAE, WWMI, KADZ, KDDZ, WWMK, WKMI, WIID, WDDZ, WGFY, WDYZ, WMNE, WDZY, WDZK), investments in A&E, Lifetime, E! Entertainment Television, The History Channel, ABC Internet Operations, ABC Family, Disney Channel, Disney Channel International, Toon Disney, SoapNet, Walt Disney Pictures, Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, Miramax Films, Dimension Films, Buena Vista Home Entertainment, Buena Vista Music Group, Walt Disney Records, Walk Disney Music Publishing, Hollywood Records, Mammoth Records, Lyric Street Records, Buena Vista Theatrical Group, Animated Walt Disney Television, Animated Buena Vista Television, Disneylant Resort, Walt Disney World Resort, Tokyo Disney Resort, Disneyland Resort Paris, Disney Vacation CLub, Disney Cruise Line, ESPN Zone, Walt Disney Imagineering, Mighty Ducks (NHL), Anaheim Angels (MLB), 25 Hotels, Toys, Apparel, Hyperion Books, Disney Store.com

    But it's an easy mistake to make.

  10. Re: Beatrice by Lars+T. · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, before MS attacked Netscape, who owned Netscape? Ooops.

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    Lars T.

    To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck