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GNOME 2.0 Desktop Alpha
xer.xes writes: "The first public testing release of the GNOME 2.0 Desktop, 'Rolig Liten Hattgubbe,' is ready for your testing pleasure! It is available for immediate download here. Please read the release notes first! Due for general consumption in March, the GNOME 2.0 Desktop is a greatly improved user environment for existing GNOME applications. Enhancements include anti-aliased text and first class internationalisation support, new accessibility features for disabled users, and many improvements throughout GNOME's highly regarded user interface."
First post?
Maybe?
In either case, GNOME ROCKS!!!
Its nice to see another step in the uphill battle Linux faces against the already-popular Windows. I, for one, will use Linux more now.
Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
I can only assume it's by eyecandy experts; it certainly shouldn't be by usability experts...
insightful AC post duplicated here for wider availability. Mod parent up, so I wont have to burn more karma points like this:
This is the most politically correct (as in Slashdot-politically correct) post I have ever seen! Kudos to you, thoughtless meat popsicle!
When in doubt, have a man come through a door with a gun in his hand.
In my language, which is not swedish, it sounds like a faggot looking for something to take up the ass.
Don't worry, Miguel doesn't have a real job. Why else would these open source programmers work for free?
With a crippled foot!
but not for a gnome. A dick, more like. But then you opensources people produce cocked up code anyway... PROPZ TO alll DEaD PeNIS BIRDZ!1!
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oki what should i use ? kde ? gnome ? normal windowmanager ? these questions
are comming up more and more and i am totally fed up listening to these things
all the time.
i think that gnome 2 will become a lot more mature than gnome 1 a lot more
resource consuming and a lot more buggy not to mention that you all wait
another year until the majority of your apps that you use today will be ported.
gnome 2 will depend on MORE libraries than gnome 1, gnome 2 may be ready to use
just in time but all your beloved apps won't be ready in time. e.g. evolution,
still not yet started beeing ported, gnumeric still not yet started beeing
ported, galeon cant be ported to gnome 2 right now because gtk embedded is not
yet ported to gtk 2 (work is in progress) now think on all other gtk and gnome
apps (some of them may be outdated too) when do you think these will ever be
ported ? its not just replacing some lines of code and voila, theres a lot
more things to do.
you guys should look somehow behind the scenes, a tad more inside everything
before deciding for one desktop. eyecandy is not everything it should also be
quick, fast, less mature and simply operatinal. i am working with gnome for
some years now and the past months i really feel that i need to get rid of it
since i dont like the way it goes, the way things are beeing implemented and so
on. i for my own am not willing to install gnome 1 and gnome 2 (which is far
more mature) for a couple of time only to use my applications until someone
decides to give it gnome 2 support.
also seeing all these deamons running in the background only for one use who
accesses the workstation is really unbelivable. also the new windows registry
like system that got implemented into gnome 2 starts to suck, it consumes a lot
of diskspace for one user than the way things got configured before.
gnome 2 is nice but i dont belive that people who are realy aware of their
systems gonna like it that much. even nautilus is still totally unusable even
the gnome 2 converted one totally sucks, it takes ages to load and is not that
userfriendly to use as e.g. konqueror e.g scanning a ftp tree takes hours with
nautilus and only seconds for konqueror. its sad to say but this is simply a
fact. i never found myself using nautilus. only started it up once in a time
to see what happens but usability NO but thats what a system should be like...
simply usable.
not long ago i had a gconf crash for unknown reason while i was leeching some
bigger files from the net. after this crash i wasnt able starting galeon and
other apps that use gconf as preferences master, no matter what i did, either
killing the processes etc. it wasnt possible to get that stuff back running so
i was sticked on a nearly dead desktop with 2 decissions, either i reboot my
system to get everything working properly again and cancel my download (over
irc and in queue) or i continue the download until its finished. well i decided
to continue until its finished. well its sure that these minor problems are
beeing solved sooner or later but it doesnt make me happy using my system. its
a lot of maintainance etc. a lot of things you need to care and you end in a
permanent maintainance instead using your system. e.g. if you want to run games
like quake, rtcw etc. you always need to keep in mind that a lot of stuff is
running in the background. same for evolution e.g. losing passwords every now
and then, preferences lost every now and then, long startup times, bad
addressbook implementation etc. i belive it will continue and become better and
better over time but yes TIME but we want to use the system NOW and not later.
well every now and then i EYE over to KDE and look about all these apps they
got. sure the eyecandy is not that nice and the CVS of KDE 3 that i tried every
now and then isnt that beautifull (e.g. i also miss some other features that i
was used on gnome) but KDE is not only the environment its more. i see the apps
like konqueror more functional. more freedom, no need to compile mozilla with
its ugly XUL widgetset all the time, no need to install stuff like GALEON and
NAUTILUS to have things that i get with konqueror, its faster and more
impressive. i thought wow the first time ive played with it. only big
disadvantage on kde is, that the packages install things that i dont really
want e.g. if i want the seat of a car only then why do i need to purchase the
whole car? but looking on 3rd party applications i see things that i really
would like seeing on gnome but know that they are far away. e.g. cool
professional burner software, cool query analyzer like program for sql, a whole
complete office suite etc. more and more stuff from 3rd party coders specially
programs that i need for daily work and wish to have on gnome myself.
i am also a bit familar with the gnome developers and i came to this resume.
gnome may be open source, but the whole community is totally closed. if you
talk to them then they act like insane humans and piss you off really fast.
well not everyone of them but a lot of them. holy jesus if someone comes into
their channels or meet them on open air festivals etc. and one wrong word or
misunderstood word. they piss you off to hell. i met a couple of them and well
i dont like many of them. they actually are capable people but also kinda
agressive people many of them cant decide anymore between trolling and normal
arguing.
well finally i say you dont need to keep my words for an end line agreement,
please go install gnome see if you like it. look in your homedirectory and
subdirectories and decide if you like what you see and then be happy. you
really dont need gnome at all for your work and i for my own felt somekinda
freedom after i tested a gnomefree environment for some weeks e.g. windowmaker
and gtk+ apps only i feelt so much better i then really had the happy feeling
to USE my system again. nice aterm, bitchx, xchat, sylpheed, mutt etc. no shit
in the background. also a lot more memory for my own personal use and not
wasted to e.g. gnomes core. i also ran mozilla on its own and got rid of galeon
too (have you figured out recently that they add and remove stuff in one
breathe). mozilla is so what faster than older versions now if they soon port
it to gtk 2 then i dont see the usage of galeon anymore. its nice with tabs
etc. but mozilla offers the same things now and i think over time mozilla will
be better. not to mention all the problems caused during compile etc.
aldug
It still looks fucking ugly.
... maybe it'll catch up in 5 years or something. And then GNOME will take another 5 years to come up to par with where KDE was. 5 years ago. Woo! Desktop Linux! heh.)
Ick.
Maybe the companies funding GNOME should pay someone with eyes for design some money.
The themes suck, too.
If only someone working on these open source desktop environments/UI toolkits/etc would take a good look at MacOS, MacOSX, or even Windows.
No comparison.
...
Maybe their code has improved.
GNOME. Too little, too late.
(By the way, yes, I think KDE is better. Alot better. Alot more coherent. Alot more together. And the APIs are _SO_ much cleaner. The code is _SO_ much better.
KDE is not perfect. Nowhere near Windows/Mac. But
This is foolishness. Why wouldn't you want to use a commercially viable operating system that's secure, reliable, and stable that supports all your hardware and performs at its full potential? I've been nothing but satisfied with Windows XP, and consider it worth every penny I spent.
Is Linux for you and your business? Probably not.