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Off-The-Rack Liquid-Cooled PC Case

hummer357 writes: "A Korean company is making a computer case with a nifty liquid-cooling system (for psu, video and processor) that doesn't use any fans or motors. The CalmPC. Here's a review. Maybe this is the thing we have been waiting for ... finally silence on the desktop. Too bad the supplied case is extremely ugly"

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  1. CPU Specs: Under 1Ghz only? by aredubya74 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Seems pretty bloody limiting to me, given the large number of readily available >1Ghz CPUs nowadays. If you're looking for an ultra quiet system with a VIA C3, perhaps their 933Mhz model. These suckers run cool, and generally can use an extremely quiet fan.


    If you want something for the higher-end CPUs, Koolance has had a pre-built waterblock tower case for a few months now. Try one of those.

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  2. This is already being done by Lewisham · · Score: 2, Informative

    Koolance have been doing this for the past year or so. Their cases look *alright*, but not great :( They have two models, the 'silent' model and the overclockers model. Both are at least "pretty decent." [H]ard OCP have a review of the first one, and I think the overclockers model too.

  3. Just got mine in by slashdot.org · · Score: 5, Informative

    a couple of days ago.

    I didn't have a problem with the max. of a 1Ghz PIII processor,- this puppy is going in my AV rack, so all I care about is noise. (or lack of)

    However, it is but-ugly, and since I saw the same enclosure for sale in the non-Calm-PC version, I had hoped that I could rip out the cooling system and place it in an other enclosure.

    Well, it seems to be possible,- the PS has normal dimensions. The rest of the cooling system isn't all that crazy either. BUT, the cooling elements are mounted on the side panel of the enclosure. The thing is that this is a customized side panel. It's about twice as thick as the original one.

    This got me a little worried about heat distribution if I mounted the elements on a surface that does not have the same 'body' as this panel. So now I'm thinking, maybe I'll keep the original construction, cut off some of it, and fit the entire thing in an other enclosure.

    I had hoped to creat a horizontal enclosure, but I'm worried that cooling system might not work if the elements aren't mounted in the right orientation.

    Anyways, waiting for my solid-state disk and CPU to arrive so I can start playing around with it. I'll post my findings. :o)

    1. Re:Just got mine in by slashdot.org · · Score: 2, Informative

      Couple of more notes.

      I just removed one of the elements,- it looked like they where glued on, but the good news is that that is just heat-conducting paste. They are just screwed on, and easy to remove. :-)

      I also wanted to mention that most of todays hi-end graphics card (such as the ATI 8500DV which I have) come with a fan installed on the graphics chip. Unfortunately these are not attached using the semi-standard holes but rather glued straight onto the chip. This means, you have to break off the fan and then glue on the CalmPC heatsink. The material that comes with the CalmPC to attach to the graphics card doesn't work. :-(

  4. Quieter Fans by PoiBoy · · Score: 3, Informative
    Are all fans really as noisy as some people make them out to be? I have an older Gateway system, and certainly that thing is loud. However, I've also got a newer Dell machine with three fans, and it's whisper quiet.

    Looking through the DigiKey catalog, I've noticed that small fans cost anywhere from $10 to $50. Instead of paying extra money for a water-cooled case, why not just buy fans with better bearings, closer tolerances, and whatnot to make them more quiet? I'm sure there are very quiet fans available.

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    1. Re:Quieter Fans by dunkelfalke · · Score: 3, Informative

      How to build a fast and silent PC (sorry for bad english):

      Ingredients:

      1 Antec SOHO SX1030B Midi Tower (aka Chieftech cs-601)
      http://www.listan.de/images/products/CS-601 Open.jpg
      This case is really good. You can snap 4 fans in it, it is heavy,
      with easy to mount hdd racks, and no sharp edges you can cut yourself.
      AND you can get it in silver, blue and BLACK *yum*

      1 Athlon XP 1600+, maybe less if you don't mind less performance

      1 Alpha PAL8045 heatsink.
      This one is big and heavy and of an excellent quality. And it can not
      break the socket and fall off, you can't damage your cpu core while mounting.
      It also enables me to mount a 80mmx80mm fan

      6 papst 8412 NGL fans. As I already mentioned it, they are the quietest fans allover.

      1 Enermax EG465P-VE PSU with 431 watt.
      I can already hear you mumbling about this thing is really loud. Yes it is. But we are going
      to modify it a bit. Attention, warranty will be void.

      1 Seagate Barracuda ATA IV HDD
      This one is the most silent of the fast HDDs.

      1 NoiseControl NoVibes III for silencing the HDD even more

      1 packet of noise insulation materials for your pc.

      btw you can order the novibes 3 and the already insulated case at http://www.pc-silent.de
      but it is not very cheap. maybe better doing it yourself.

      1 ecs k7s5a motherboard
      a budget one, without fan (but it's heatsink sucks)

      2 256 mb ddr apacer/nanya
      quality memory, works very good with this motherboard

      1 ati radeon 8500 or 7500
      because they run very cool so you can take the loud fans off and place a big heatsink instead

      2 zalman zm-nb32 northbridge coolers
      that's for the radeon and for the chipset.

      4 DDRRAM heatsinks
      for the radeon, too.

      1 tube arctic silver 2
      this thermal paste is really good

      some foam rubber

      We take carefully the chipset heatsink off, clean it carefully with alcohol,
      then put the first zalman northbridge heatsink with the help of thermal adhesive
      (you get it with the heatsink) onto the northbridge.
      Then we take off the radeon cooler, clean the chip, put a small amount of arctic
      silver thermal grease on it (I suppose you know how to do that), then we mount the
      second zalman heatsink on it. The same thermal adhesive we use on the ram and mount
      the ram heatsinks on it. wait 15 minutes - the adhesive needs time to stick firmly.

      Put the cpu into the socket, attach the mounting washers and so of the big alpha
      heatsink. clean the cpu core and heatsink plate properly, put a small amount of thermal
      grease on the core, mount the heatsink carefully on top of the cpu, screw it firm.
      Mount one of the papst ngl fans onto it.

      Mount the hdd into the novibes 3 and put it into the case. Let the 4 fans snap into the
      fan mouns. We'll go on with them later. Mount the memory, mount the motherboard,
      cdrom, fdd, vga... you get the picture

      open the psu and ripp of the 80mm fan. replace it with the ngl one. you must modify
      the plugs of the fan a little but it is not a problem I suppose. The second fan of the psu
      is speed controlled, so set it to the slowest speed possible.

      Mount the psu, modify the fans to 7 volt (very easy, if you don't know how, ask).
      Stick the insulation plates into your case properly. Inner sides of the cover must be insulated
      with heavy materials.

      Stick foam rubber to the case legs. Doing so you reduce the remaining oscillations.

      Well, here we are. Your computer is almost silent but still cool enough. Maybe even cool enough to
      allow some overclocking. Try it out!

      you can buy the stuff at many german sites like www.com-tra.de, www.pc-silent.de, www.aconto.de and so on.

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  5. Nearly passive cooling with PIII Tualatin? by Kryptonomic · · Score: 2, Informative
    Well, lucky you. I guess you're just not sensitive to noise.

    I bought a dual AMD for a while ago. I thought I could make it silent enough, but I'll probably have to sell it now. The noise, although only moderate due to the slowly rotating fans, is still too much even for a daytime working. The hum of two Miprocool CPU fans (80 mm, 1300-3000 rpm and huge heat sink) and a power source was too much even after I padded the case with carpet and soft foam.

    The problem is the huge 60+ W power consumption of the processor. Intel's new Tualatin PIII line has only is rated at only 27 W and I've been thinking about building a new machine based on those and Zalman's passive heat sinks. If the passive cooling isn't enough, I'll get a large, slow and silent fan to move the air around a bit.

  6. Re:Get the American one by prisoner-of-enigma · · Score: 3, Informative

    I own four of these Koolance cases and I can say that they are NOT loud. For one thing, the pump is damn near noiseless unless you physically open the case and put your ear on it. Even then it's more of a vibration than a noise.

    The fans on the top are low-RPM ducted fans that are thermostatically controlled. You can set the fans to one of three preset temperature gradients that ramp up fan speed to deal with increased temps. I leave mine on setting 1 (the quietest) and even with four systems in one room the noise doesn't approach even the quietest standard air cooled PC I've ever heard. Although I don't have a noise meter handy, I've got a good deal of experience in dealing with sound levels (I do audio/video work). I'd estimate that the cases produce at best 32dBa of noise.

    Sure, no fans and no moving parts is nirvana, but for heavy duty systems (all of mine are dual Athlon 1800+ XP's) the heat load will overwhelm passive cooling. I give the Koolance cases 3 out of 4 stars for the overall engineering.

    Cons? Well, to start with, the waterblocks they supply are far too fragile. The polycarbonate top portion cracks very easily and overenthusiastic hose clamping will crack it in a heartbeat. I've broken three of them so far (out of 8), all replaced with much better sub-mini copper blocks obtained from Chip at www.overclock-watercool.com. The original rev1 Koolance cases came with all copper blocks that were bulletproof, I wish they'd switch back.

    BTW, my 1800+ dual systems running 3D Studio Max 4 rendering like mad (and running distributed.net clients) heat the water temps up to 92F in a 72F ambient air temp room. I think the best possible air cooling you're ever going to find (even with a screaming 7000RPM Delta fan) couldn't hope to cool one of these puppies down below 100F. In fact, most of them can't keep 'em below 110F.

    Give Koolance a try, your ears will thank you. Just go easy on the hose clamps and you'll be just fine.

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  7. Re:Laptops by Jobe_br · · Score: 3, Informative

    The liquid cooling system mentioned in this article doesn't use a pump, read the article and visit the site :).

  8. Re:More and larger fans for a quiet PC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    An electric motor with good bearings and clean (sinusoidal) power is virtually silent. The noise a fan makes depends almost entirely on how fast the tips of the blades are moving.