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Cracking Crypto To Get Into College

Kallahar writes "New Scientist is running a story about a Canadian university who had students break an encrypted message in order to get into college. A good idea to grab a good student, but here in 'Free' America these kids would have been thrown in jail for violating the DMCA ..."

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  1. Good one Tim... by big_groo · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Perhaps you should get some sleep Timothy? Or lay off the Bawlz. In the morning you can brush up on the DMCA at any of these convenient sites. ;)

  2. Re:The DMC is bad enough - you needn't make stuff by isomeme · · Score: 4, Redundant
    The DMCA doesn't apply when the copyright holder asks you to break the encryption.
    Tell that to Felten.

    (And yes, the RIAA backed off...but the threat was credible enough that it left the lingering possibility that someone could be prosecuted under the DMCA for breaking encryption when invited to do so, if the inviter disapproves of what they do with the information afterwards.)

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  3. Re:Doesn't make you a good student by cscx · · Score: 0, Redundant
    Breaking encryption would imply good mathematical knowledge and higher reasoning.

    Guess you couldn't tell that from Slashdot's 2+2=5 "edjukayshun" icon, huh?

  4. Ok, I was bored. by molo · · Score: 2, Redundant

    I decoded the message. I guess I'm bored. I didn't quite get the numerals in the address though.


    TO WIN A SCHOLARSHIP
    FROM THE UNIVERSITY
    OF LETHBRIDGE

    DO THE MATH.

    FORMULA:

    FIND THE SUM OF ALL DECIMAL
    DIGITS APPEARING IN THE NATURAL
    NUMBERS FROM ONE TO ONE MILLION
    INCLUSIVE.

    CONTEST ENTRIES MUST BE
    RECEIVED BY DECEMBER 12/31/01

    TO ENTER ONLINE: VISIT
    WWW.ULETH.CA AND SUBMIT YOUR
    ANSWER.

    MAIL: SEND YOUR ANSWER, ALONG
    WITH YOUR NAME, FULL ADDRESS AND
    PHONE NUMBER TO GO FIGURE WHAT
    MAGAZINE,108/,93/ LOMBARD AVENUE,
    WINNIPEG, MB, R3/B3/B1/.



    Computed as follows:

    0 + 1,000,000 = 1E6
    1 + 999,999 = 1E6
    2 + 999,998 = 1E6
    ...
    499,998 + 500,002 = 1E6
    499,999 + 500,001 = 1E6

    and 500,000 left over.

    so, we have 500,000 pairs equaling 1E6, giving 5E5 * 1E6 = 5E11. Add 5E5 left over, and you get your answer of 5.000005E11 = 500000500000.

    Confirmed with the following bc program:

    total=0;
    for(i=0;i<=1000000;i++)
    total+=i;
    total

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    1. Re:Ok, I was bored. by Puppe · · Score: 0, Redundant

      The easiest way to calculate the sum from 1 to 1000000 is ofcause (n+1) * n/2.

  5. Math puzzle by KhaliF · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I don't know what kind of standards these American Colleges require, but that math problem was set in the same general form (1 to 1000) as some of the ones we did for fun in Primary School ("standard 4" or age 10)...

    It is extraordinarily simple.

    Spoiler Warning...

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    Imagine brute-forcing it by hand. (Oh the pain)
    It would be easier if the number you were adding on was the same each time, yes? Ok, how do you make that happen?

    Simple. Add in pairs.

    Start with Nothing.
    Add 1 and 999,999
    Add 2 and 999,998
    etc...

    continue until you have just added 500,000 and 500,000. You'll need to subtract 500,000 because you added it twice... Ok, easy... Now add the 1,000,000 that you haven't added yet...

    Well, it now seems that we add 1,000,000 500,000 times, subtract 500,000, then add 1,000,000...

    That seems like multiplying 1,000,000 by 500,000 then adding 500,000 to me. Should a college student be ready to multiply and add yet?

    Result: 500,000,500,000

    Hardly scholarship material... In New Zealand primary school, we solved a specific case {1..1000} in 30 minutes, then a couple years later in intermediate (12 yrs old) we solved the general case using algebra. At 14 yrs old we were taught to solve similar problems again with algebraic summing of finite series (and that was the easier part of the course)

    This is not a troll, but if this college seriously expects to vet scholorship recipients using this, perhaps they should use a REAL test.

    Perhaps it's like the lottery rules in this country - if the lottery runners are not a registered non-profit organisation, they get taxed, so they make you answer a completely brainless question as part of a "competition", then randomly pick out the winner because they had "too many correct answers"...

    Singing bye-bye,
    this part of the hard drive,
    maybee data, someday later,
    now it's just gotten fried.
    I pressed a button, kissed his data goodbye,
    I hope this makes my customer cry,
    I hope this makes my customer cry.

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