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Slashback: Cheats, Entries, Loki
From the email I've gotten on it, it seems like a whole passel of schools have at least a homegrown solution to CS cheats.
Perhaps the cute dog will end up changing Sony's stance? CodeMonkey555 writes "Here is a story that chronicles Sony's little foray into the DMCA with a hacker who added software for the Aibo robot."
It's nice to see that publications like SciAm are following the results and consequences of the DMCA.
Care to help edit an online software reference? SteveMallett writes "We at Open Source Directory (OSD) have opened the directory to volunteer editors now that we've given app authors and maintainer's a good chance to start and/or maintain their own listings.
Those interested may wish to visit our volunteer page which outlines what we're looking for. Don't worry. We're not that picky. The outline includes guidelines and tips for being a volunteer. Unlike dmoz, which has volunteer editors, we _will_ delete unupdated or neglected editor work in accordance to our Social Contract.
We hope that editors will help fill in the missing apps, take over those listings that they can do a better job of or have become neglected, and find those diamonds in the rough."
See our earlier post about the project if you're not sure what this is about.
Yes, someone has to read all those emails. kcurtis writes "Boston.com's tech site has this AP article about the large response to the Court's request for comment on the MS case's proposed settlement."
Now all they need is a trowel with an emblazoned smiley. enigma48 writes "Looks like the C'T article a little while ago about Smoothwall prompted some changes after all. Juergen Schmidt even gets a little credit. Shadow passwords are now in, but it looks like the ppp secrets file is still open (they describe it as being a "non-vulnerability"). A-patchin' I will go, a-patchin' I will go..."
So you don't have to stop playing your games ... Scott Draeker of Loki has some encouraging words for those who thought the announced (upcoming) closure of Loki would mean the loss of Loki's code and community. Draeker sent word of this a few days ago, but here are more details.
He writes:
"We have prepared tarballs of the public CVS, FAQs, mailing list archives, demos and Loki_Update which will be available for people to host. That's exactly what's going on with icculus.org.The official repository will be hosted by the SEUL group at MIT. Once that site is set up we'll point the loki domains that direction. They'll also be adding some Loki projects to public CVS which were never completed."
Trolls? Have you forgotten about Katherine Thurber? Is she still into
that kinky clown fisting? HTTP://WWW.CLOWNSE.CX
... you know he is. Fucking traitor.
FP you fockers!
Timothy is fucking gay, and so is religion!
Slashdot. A Review. Strange really. Slashdot has become a bastion of "free speech" and anti-government sentiment. Constant rants about invasion of privacy, Echelon and the FBI's Magic Lantern. Microsoft is evil . Linux is great. Students, University Life and more fucking student stuff . How to waste money on useless gadgets. Fuckwitted "Ask Slashdot" questions that could be answered in about 10 seconds by using a search engine. More fucking Linux advocacy. Anime (especially the non-dubbed or subbed varieties that only Japanese speakers could ever fully appreciate). Another fucking kernel release . Pointless "science" features which would be better relayed by Elijah Wood on crack. Arguments over different software licenses that slide into meaningless handbag fights with excuses more queer than Julian Clary. A bit more pro-Linux crap from some "We've just graduated" hooray-Henrys. A "discussion" of wireless technology that deteriorates into Microsoft bashing for no reason whatsoever. And then.... THIS.
A wonderful little story posted by CmdrTaco. Yes, let's all run a keylogger on our systems to count how many keys we have pressed. Yes, that's right. Slashdot has only recently run this article . Hey, that was almost as good as the article on the hoax XBox Emulator where readers were being asked to download and try the emulator binaries with no regard for trojan/virus possibilities - Could the editors not be bothered to check it themselves? (And the ironic part is, not only did the package not come with source code or fall under the GPL, but it was for an M$ (tee hee!) operating system). Truly outstanding journalistic integrity. Then there's freedom of speech. The bread and butter of Slashdot. The "Papal Beacon" to call to arms all the brothers and sisters of slashdot with one ring to bind them all. A bit of flag waving, hands on hearts and everybody recite the amendments. Yes. DMCA... disclosure of security bugs in kernel... Government censorship... And then THIS . Talk about pot calling kettle. What fucking hypocrites. That particular post was spot on yet it was moderated to oblivion by what could have only been the editors. Yeah, freedom of speech indeed. Well done chaps. Yeah, I don't have to come here, nor do I have to read the posts. I don't have to get involved in moderation arguments or anything else like that. Oh, and please, somebody reply with that classic piece of shit Benjamin Franklin quote . I fucking love that one. Especially after someone posts a comment about how fucking paranoid you all are about CCTV and Echelon. To save you all the effort of typing flames, please find them here in an easy to copy n' paste list:
- "You suck! Slashdot is the best thing on earth!"
- "If you don't like it, don't come here!"
- "Fuck you!"
- "Urgh, this is so a troll!"
- "I am a student and I use Linux. I was offended by this."
- "Go back to the UK you poncy Brit!"
Oh, and don't forget to moderate me down!! Go on! You know you want to!cherish my balls as though they were the St. Louis Rams.
Hey Gabe! It's your apartment-mate Mark again. I'm glad you bought all that Mtn. Dew - I've been having a good time 'at' drinking it [wesley willis reference]. Anyway, I'll talk to you in 5 minutes.
-Mark
i thought slashback was a way to point out the comings and goings that slashdot discussed in the last few days.
this thread would seem to qualify for slashback in every way. i don't know if you forgot to include it on purpose or not, but i thought it would be helpful for anyone not aware.
ahh... good, the last post on "CS anti-cheating" spawned way too many posts about Counter-Strike...
I'm sorry but Linux should and does perform at equal or better than NT in "almost" every situation. My instinct tells me either you configured your systems extradinarily poorly, or you used Linux in an application it is poorly suited for.
All you are doing is starting a flame war. Does it occur to you that desprite your confidence in your programming skills, you might not have any idea what you are actually doing.
Morons like him, maintain monopolies...
Well gee, you figured it out, did you? Also, YHBT. YHL. HAND.
My cock is really hard. I need relief. Any boys under 12 around?
Love,
Jon Katz
modded as troll? man, somebody doesn't have a sense of humor. it could have even been a serious question.
With yonder spoken goatse.cx links, i present a WET PUSSY for ya'll's enjoyment.
HAVE A NICE DAY.
YHBT YHL HAND
you fucking moron.
YHBT YHL HAND
you fucking moron.
You are the one millionth slashdot.org post and you have to choose a prize behind one of three secret doors!!
Ok Anonymous Coward, what do you choose and please tell the audience what you think is behind the door you have chosen?
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It's just "computer class cheating."
Read on below for the details! Jon Masters was one of the many to write in after recent articles about automated cheat-detection employed in undergraduate CS classes to catch plagiarists. "Hi, cheat detection is hardly new.
This isn't even consistent. It's either "cheat-detection" or "cheat detection." I would advise the latter.
For example The University Of Nottingham have developed an automated marking/plagarism detection system as part of their CourseMaster software.
Insert a comma after "example." It should be "the University of Nottingham has."
Personally I don't agree with automated assessment in general, however plagarism detection can be useful."
Insert commas after "Personally" and "however." Change "can" to "would."
From the email I've gotten on it, it seems like a whole passel of schools have at least a homegrown solution to CS cheats.
That's either "e-mail" or "Email."
[...] SteveMallett writes "We at Open Source Directory (OSD) have opened the directory to volunteer editors now that we've given app authors and maintainer's a good chance to start and/or maintain their own listings.
That should be "maintainers." Don't use the horrible formation "and/or." The word "or" is sufficiently ambiguous.
Unlike dmoz, which has volunteer editors, we _will_ delete unupdated or neglected editor work in accordance to our Social Contract.
Capitalize "DMOZ." The word "unupdated," is, IMNSHO, a monstrosity. How about "out of date?"
We hope that editors will help fill in the missing apps, take over those listings that they can do a better job of or have become neglected, and find those diamonds in the rough."
At this point, the language has become so bad that it is impossible to understand what is being said.
Yes, someone has to read all those emails.
It's a personal decision now on whether "e-mail" is in plural form without the suffix "s," but it simply cannot be written as "emails." If you add the "s," it's either "e-mails" or "Emails."
kcurtis writes "Boston.com's tech site has this AP article about the large response to the Court's request for comment on the MS case's proposed settlement."
As journalists, you need to be more careful in your use of the word "court." Either say "the court request," or "the United States District Court's request." (I'm not sure which court we are talking about here, so I guessed.) Regarding style, you should make it clearer who proposed the settlement.
[...]Shadow passwords are now in, but it looks like the ppp secrets file is still open (they describe it as being a "non-vulnerability").
Capitalize "PPP." Turn the words in parentheses into a different sentence.
[...] Once that site is set up we'll point the loki domains that direction. They'll also be adding some Loki projects to public CVS which were never completed."
Be consistent. Always capitalize "Loki."
Here's to a better Slashdot. The Slashdot editors would do well to purchase a copy of Garner's "Modern American Usage." It's a fine reference book.
BTW, my caustic comments are all addressed to Slashdot's editors, and not to submitters. It's Slashdot's responsibility to use good language.
I am not a lawyer. Do not take my words as legal advice. If you need legal advice, consult an attorney.
Why are there zero African-Americans employed at Slashdot?
I want to use my voice commands to stear the aibo over my anus and tell it:
ME: Aibo, push in
ME: Aibo, pull out
ME: Aibo, repeat previous two commands in series for one-hundred cycles
...I can feel and see it now...
It's immensely important. This whole site is immensely important. Thank you for taking time out of your important schedule to help us out here. You are a Slashdot God.
I'm just kidding, dude. Slashdot has no black employees yet because there is yet a black person to join. Also, friends tend to stick together and maybe they the slashdot editors don't know anyone in CS or IT. The only black people Jon Katz knows are the ones on the corner selling him crack...kidding. please forgive me. Either I am to say it or a real KKK faggot was to say it.
-me likes people calling me fat and ugly when the people calling me of which are fatter and uglier than I.
The Linux operating system was born in 1991 and was created by one man, a
Finnish student coincidentally named Linux Torvalds. Since these humble
beginnings, a multi-million dollar
industry has sprung up to exploit the commercial potential of Linux, but
until recently Linux has eluded mainstream acceptance. However, due to the
recent economic downturn together with uncertainty over changes to Microsoft's pricing policy, Linux is
now being touted as a serious contender to Microsoft Windows. While there
are many other alternatives to Windows, including BSD which is based on SUN's (Stanford University Network - correction by bc) server-grade Solaris operating system,
none have commanded the same level of media attention as Linux.
Linux Mandrake is just the
latest in a long line of quirkily christened versions of Linux. Previous
versions of Linux have been named Red Hat, Slack Ware,
Storm and Coral. In stark contrast to the mundane names such
as 98, ME or NT preferred by Microsoft, the crazy
names of each Linux release hint at its renegade nature.
My foray into the world of Linux began by downloading a "CD image" from
the Linux web site. But don't worry, this isn't software piracy, it's
perfectly legal! Linux is shareware, meaning that it can be freely
redistributed without fear of a visit by the Business Software Alliance. The free
availability of Linux is a major reason for its popularity among
cash-strapped students and self-styled anti-capitalist hackers.
Before installing new software, it is always advisable to read the
documentation. Unfortunately, an unpleasant surprise was in store for me
in the "required configuration" section of the manual.
I was shocked to learn that Linux Mandrake only runs on Pentium
processors, meaning that my hopes of testing the water with my old Gateway 486 were dashed. Furthermore, a
whopping 32 megabytes of memory are required to run Linux! Although the advocates of Linux self-righteously
boast the efficiency of their chosen operating system and deride the
"bloatware" produced by Microsoft, it appears that their claims are
blatantly incorrect. Although my humble 486 will happily run Windows 95,
it seems that Linux requires far more powerful, and more expensive,
computer hardware. Is this really the sign of a lean, mean operating system?
Of course not.
Sadly, not even being able to install Linux is just the first of my many
complaints. A brief perusal of the
features of Linux Mandrake reveals that Linux is sorely lacking many
crucial productivity applications. For example, why isn't the industry
standard web browser, Internet Explorer, included with Linux? Despite the
best efforts of the experts at the Internet
Engineering Task Force to encourage adoption of the Internet Explorer
standard, the creators of Linux seem to think that they know better. By
refusing to adhere to recognised standards, Linux is simply undermining
its own credibility.
Similarly, almost all of the world's most popular and widely used software
is completely incompatible with Linux! It may surprise you to learn that
your copy of Microsoft Office, Outlook Express, or Lotus Notes will not
work under Linux. Those who wish to use their computer for recreational
purposes are also out of luck, for almost all of the most popular games
are unavailable for Linux. Although a wide range of software is freely
available for Linux, these pitiful offerings are mostly unfinished, unreliable and do not
bear comparison to their commercial counterparts.
Computer security is also an area that seems to have been overlooked by
the developers of Linux. In these times when hacking and viruses are
commonplace, it defies belief to learn that no anti-virus software is available for
Linux. To add insult to injury, there is no Linux version of the popular
ZoneAlarm firewall. By using Linux,
you are issuing an open invitation to the hordes of ne'er-do-wells on the
Internet.
The shortcomings of Linux are obvious. Without even installing Linux
Mandrake, I have exposed several fundamental flaws. Surely it is not too
much to expect that, after ten years of development, the creators of Linux
would have addressed these problems? The real question that the
prospective Linux user must ask himself is, "Why bother?" After all,
Microsoft Windows comes free with most PCs and there simply isn't a need
to replace it, particularly not with a product of inferior quality.
Although it is always tempting to support the underdog, Windows XP will
be the deserved victor in the battle ahead. I recommend that those
Adequacy readers who are hoping to upgrade their operating system
patiently wait for the release of Windows XP, rather than foolishly
wasting their time, effort and money on Linux.
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is your woindow patented? If not, I think I'll break into your house and shit on your keyboard.
http://entertainment.yahoo.com/entnews/wwn/2002011 6/101119320009.html
And what exactly would Point-Of-Sale hardware be doing in his Mom's basement? Damn, trolls are getting suckier on this BBS every day.
I think he meant Piece-Of-Shit equipment :P
Christ, this should've been given a 5, funny. You moderators need to go take a crap once in a while, your sphincter is too tight.
(I got mod points the other day, but I didnt use them cause there was nothing good to use them ON!)
Here's to a better Slashdot. The Slashdot editors would do well to purchase a copy of Garner's "Modern American Usage." It's a fine reference book.
Book titles are underlined, not put into quotation marks.
"Personally I don't agree with automated assessment in general, however plagarism detection can be useful."
Insert commas after "Personally" and "however." Change "can" to "would."
What you advise becomes a run-on sentence. A semicolon should go after "general." Also, there's nothing wrong with "can be useful." 'would be useful" has a different meaning.
Jon Katz is not the dumb fuck everyone makes him out to be -- really! so stop buttfux0ring him!
... the Columbine shooting."
... shared references, and makes statements which people find embarrassingly naive. [It's] like you were discussing the finer points of characterization in Romeo and Juliet in the bar and Katz would come over and say 'Don't you think their suicides were so tragic?'" writes poster Eddie Edwards in an e-mail.
... I don't think they were faking it," he says. "There are just many, many thousands of really bright and creative kids who are suffering quite acutely and whose problems are not being addressed."
... If you do this full-time, it's a very valuable thing, but you become a social worker."
... have really gone underground; they've learned not to talk about their disaffection," he adds.
By his own account, you wouldn't know that Katz is, in fact, a lightning rod. The media critic and author of numerous works, including Geeks: How Two Lost Boys Rode the Internet Out of Idaho, is often flamed by readers who call for his ouster every time one of his stories appears on Slashdot, the site he calls home. Katz gets accused of everything from self-aggrandizement to Faith-Popcorn-style trend mongering to -- worst of all -- not being a real geek.
He's maligned and even dissed by members of his own constituency who fail to recognize him for what he is: a leader of one of the important social movements of the Internet Age.
Or was. Katz has more or less stepped down from his role as lead scribe of the "anti-bullying movement" -- a loose coalition of students, parents, commentators and educators who argue that to write off school harassment as "kids being kids" is to ignore a very real threat to students' physical and mental health.
Now, the one-time crusader for the geek underclass has decided to concentrate on writing more general technology articles and media commentary. And the efforts of Peter Yarrow from Peter, Paul and Mary aside, no one's really picked up where he left off.
Katz cites burnout as one of the reasons for his recent decision to branch out beyond tales of grief. "I was actually close to getting obsessed about it," he says during a phone interview. "A bunch of my friends said, 'You've got to stop doing it, or you're just going to become -- I mean, your whole life's work is just basically being a transmitter of all this misery.'"
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>>> All this misery. An electronic river of pain. That's how Katz variously refers to the torrent of messages that he says crashed three of his computers and hasn't completely subsided yet: messages from kids ostracized by their peers; teenagers alienated from both fellow students and authorities; thirty-somethings who still haven't forgotten the pain of being different. All of them reached out to Katz because he had the temerity to suggest in a 1999 article entitled "Why Kids Kill" that there was something wrong with schools that treated disaffected geeks as potential killers in the wake of Columbine.
"As a writer, I've never in my life touched a deeper chord," he says of the article, and the many-part Slashdot series, "Voices from the Hellmouth," that was based on the e-mail messages "Why Kids Kill" provoked. For almost two years, Katz wrote of geeks beaten up, threatened, and sexually harassed by their peers. And ignored, disciplined, and sent into counseling by school administrators.
"Why Kids Kill" may not have been the most likely starting point for a revolution. Published on Slashdot, it was more of a media think piece than a report from the front lines. In it, Katz takes journalists to task for concentrating on computer games and the Internet as possible causes for Columbine.
"It was the final break between me and the media," Katz says now. "I never got over the coverage of
Despite having worked for venerable old-media outlets like The New York Times and Rolling Stone, as well as Wired, Katz more or less left print journalism for the in-your-face world of Slashdot, which bills itself as, simply, "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." Stories are posted and immediately analyzed and dissected by users. Katz describes it as "the best job I've ever had in my life."
When asked why he doesn't try to spread the geek-movement word with a well-placed op-ed in The New York Times, or maybe a longer piece in The New Yorker, Katz dismisses the idea. "People like me tend to be attacked, trivialized, marginalized," he says. "To write a token op-ed piece is not going to change anything."
And how have Slashdotters repaid him for joining their ranks, both as a chronicler of their stories and as a technology columnist? Katz seems generally happy with the feedback he gets. "I get probably two to five hundred e-mail messages per column, and of those, I probably get one or two flames a week," he says.
But read the comments posted on Slashdot after any Katz story, and you can see the hostility he inspires in some of the Slashdot faithful. Consider some of the attacks that followed "Is Open Source the New Jerusalem?" which, perhaps a bit ambitiously, compares the open source movement to god's kingdom on earth. "[D]oes anyone give a crap what katz thinks? Does he post this article to boost his own ego?" "I'm beginning to wonder if JK is the ubertroll. I mean, I used to be able [to] handle the highfalutin pop psych, but this is just silly." "[O]h wise Jon Katz, why don't you define revolution for us?"
Of course, Katz has already defined, catalyzed and guided a revolution: the geek revolution, for lack of a better term. And it's geeks themselves who view him with the most suspicion.
After exchanging e-mails with some of the Slashdotters who flame Katz, it's evident that their complaints are as varied as Katz's articles. They grumble about long, windy, unpolished pieces that don't fit into Slashdot's paragraph-link weblog format, and a style that sometimes glosses over key distinctions.
"Katz comes blazing in without any understanding of
While Timothy Lee and Elijah Sarver both supported the "Hellmouth" series, Lee complains about "fluff pieces in which [Katz] makes broad, unsupported statements about the future, technology, the internet, etc." And Sarver writes, "[H]is writing style is not edited, which hurts him greatly."
But most of the flames his stories receive aren't just about the stories; they're about him. Katz is a big-name writer using his own name at a place where most of the monikers are more along the lines of "Hemos" and "CmdrTaco." He's writing about technology from the perspective of a journalist. Some of what makes Katz distrust big media might make Slashdot readers distrust Katz.
"They're an extraordinarily sensitive culture," he says. "Especially when an outsider writes about them, they often resent it quite a bit."
The "Hellmouth" series was generally well-received, but not everyone bought Katz's concerns. The Village Voice published a piece by Jane Dark, "Suffer the (White, Middle-Class) Children," that criticized the self-identification of geeks as an oppressed group, similar to racial and ethnic minorities that have been persecuted.
Katz, however, rejects the notion that the problems teenagers described were superficial and/or overblown. "I think one can easily differentiate between whining and misery
Most of the criticism, though, came from Slashdot readers themselves. "People got sick of it. There were people who said, 'What's it doing on a technology site?'" he recalls. The vein he tapped with "Hellmouth" poured out not only in the form of anguished, confessional, personal e-mails but also outward hostility.
"They don't want to be different and they don't want to be seen as being different and I'm sure there were people who were extremely uncomfortable reading this stuff," he says of the group the series was aimed at.
Writing more speculative pieces like the "New Jerusalem" article, he's likely to keep attracting flames, but unlikely to make anyone uncomfortable.
"I moved on to other subjects," he says. "I think [Hellmouth] was a one-time thing. I did not write about the shootings [in San Diego]
Katz did return in late March from his self-imposed hiatus to write the pointedly titled column "Are Kids Turning Your Kids Into Killers?" Katz says that he and other Slashdot staff weren't sure whether to run another piece about school shootings, but Attorney General John Ashcroft's criticism of computer games as part of an "ethic of violence" convinced them it was necessary.
"The truth is," Katz wrote, "many more kids kill themselves then [sic] others, often because of bullying, a subject about which Ashcroft had nothing to say. The question really is whether vicious kids and hostile school environments are turning kids into killers."
The article, which mentions Tempest Smith, a Michigan 12-year-old who committed suicide after suffering repeated taunting and harassment, is one of his briefest and most direct -- "The best columns on the subject are those that state the obvious," he says.
So is Katz back as the anti-bullying movement's voice? He says he doesn't want to become a preacher, but knows the subject is one he can't completely leave alone. "I don't think I'm ever going to escape it," he says. When asked if he sees the lot of alienated high school students improving any time soon, his answer is a flat "No."
While bullying will likely be recognized as a bonafide health issue, anti-bullying programs (which have been instituted in a small number of schools) won't be enough to correct the problem, says Katz. The answer, he says, involves a complete restructuring of the school system to accommodate the needs of different students and encourage individual creativity -- which is an unlikely scenario. "I don't think the country has any appetite for focusing on issues like this," Katz says.
And the reaction some of these kids got when expressing understanding of, if not solidarity with, ostracized school shooters, has taught many of them to keep their feelings to themselves. "Since then, a lot of these kids
Although the mainstream punditocracy is beginning to parrot some of Katz's views regarding the causes of school violence, the solutions offered seem far from perfect. A recent article in the Weekly Standard, for example, suggests that students who feel "trapped" should be allowed to drop out and work at McDonald's, which writer Jackson Toby says is "successful at training egocentric teenagers."
Since that attitude may be indicative of the national level of sympathy directed toward those considered outsiders, some geeks might resent Katz -- who's more likely to argue in favor of the bullies dropping out and working in fast food -- for not continuing to lead the revolution he started. But what's really important is that he started it in the first place.
Katz has almost singlehandedly introduced an awareness of bullying into the national dialogue. School harassment may have become just one more item on the laundry list of contributing factors ticked off by media types every time there's a school shooting -- a list that also includes guns, absent parents, and, Katz's perennial favorite, video games. Still, that's an enormous change from two years ago, when any mention of social ostracism in connection with Columbine was thought to imply support for the killers.
And that's why Slashdot readers should cut him a little slack. Yes, he's fond of long film reviews and sometimes repetitive "future of the Web" pieces. The connection between his work and the rest of the site, moreover, is sometimes tenuous. But Katz uncovered the harassment and civil liberties violations geeks face on a regular basis, and he provided an essential outlet and repository for the fears and anger of a lost generation within a generation. That alone is still worth a lot -- and might be reason for more optimism than Katz is willing to allow.
there is yet a black person to join
You, sir, are a fucking idiot.
As you can FUCKING see, your post is 2,917,440, COCKLOVER. That means there is almost 3 million posts on Slashdot SHIT FOR BRAINS, not 1 million, CHILD MOLESTER.
I hope this clears things up...JACKASS!
Jane was sitting on a beach in Florida, attempting to strike up a conversation with the stunningly attractive gentleman who was reading on the sunbed beside hers.
"Hello, sir," she said, "Do you like movies?"
"Yes, I do," he responded, and then returned to his book.
Jane persisted. "Do you like gardening?"
The man again looked up from his book. "Yes, I do," he said politely before returning to his reading.
Undaunted, Jane asked. "Do you like pussycats?"
With that, the man dropped his book and pounced on Jane, pumping her as she'd never been pumped before. As the cloud of sand began to settle, Jane dragged herself back to a sitting position and panted, "How did you know that was what I wanted?!!"
The man thought for a moment and replied, "How did you know my name was Katz?"
Ever since I was in Jr. High, I've been unable to get a girlfriend. All my friends either had girlfriends or horny sisters. I just figured I'd eventually meet the right girl in high school. Still, I had no luck. After high school, I went to college and, you guessed it, still no girlfriends. Well, I'ge given up on trying to find a girlfriend. I am now asking you to help me with my conversion over to gayness. Any assistance you could provide with information on becoming gay would be extremely helpful. Thanks!
Is that you Mr. Katz?
First HotJava post!
This is totally offtopic, but holy shit, this browser isn't half bad. Why did Sun drop it, it's really not so awful that it couldn't have been salvaged.
Bizarre.
Silly Sun, HotJava was a step in the right direction, why'd you stop developing it?
Sheesh.
I think I speak for all of us when I say, "I hope you die."
Contact Rob CmdrTaco Malda at
malda@slashdot.org
He can help you out, I promise.
Also, try here and here
This will help as well