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Custom OpenBSD 3.0 with IPFilter From Darren Reed
rjk191 writes: "Darren Reed, the author of IPFilter, has created his own release of OpenBSD which puts IPFilter back in. IPFilter was removed from OpenBSD 3.0 by the OpenBSD team due to license issues. See his newsgroup posting that announces it here." Here's the whole thread for some more information.
conflict surrounding the openbsd project
next story please.
OpenBSD team wants to get changes incorporated into IPF. Darren no respond.
Ask again -> No respond. Darren coder supreme.
OpenBSD decide to make changes, but only in OpenBSD source tree. Darren hears, gets angry! Decides: "LICENSE NO ALLOW!"
Insert Flame War.
OpenBSD team decide to switch to different packet filter under BSD license. Because Project Goal: Every user should be able to make changes to source tree. IPF license bad!!
Darren try get back: says, NetBSD, FreeBSD allowed! MUAHAHAHAH!!!
Theo say: no care, pf much better than ipf!
Darren changes mind: changes license. But OpenBSD will not change back to ipf. Darren even much more bitter.
Darren so bitterbitter. Decides: I'LL GET BACK BY FORKING OPENBSD AND RELEASING MY OWN VERSION. HEHEHEHEHE.
Conclusion: Open source, closed minds.
I find this very amusing.
or dying. At least thats what the one dude would say. Zepplin RULES!~!!!!!!!!!!
I am glad to hear this, as PF is a piece of crap in my opinion. Certain mainters of OpenBSD decieded to take his ball back after an argument, personally I was tempted to NEVER use OpenBSD after that load of BS happened. Suffice to say, Darren knows packet filtering far better then some of the loopy morons working on PF.
Whoever is Moderating replies on this sub, seems quite slanted towards PF. Oh well so much for unbiases media (like that EVER happens anyway anywhere). Guess I will get Trolled for this one.
Sure, it may be legal under the BSD license, but it's still not cool to fork off for something as stupid and trivial as this. Nice way to piss off an entire community of OBSDers. Does he think his packet filter crap is the CENTRE of OpenBSD? That's like buying a forked version of Windows that ONLY has WordPad, not Notepad. Big deal. Not enough to base a distro around. What an assholio.
And how long does Reed think this will last, splitting up the 7000 or so OpenBSD users? What a fucking goof. He's probably just trying to hurt Theo's distro financially in retaliation for Theo not liking Reed's "Fucked up Licensing Scheme"(TM). GAY. What a waste of time. That's the opensource disadvantage- Microsoft wouldn't let shit like this happen.
And what's up with you fucking Linux script kiddie retards worshipping Apple all of a sudden? Don't you remember the fucking GPL? Was that all talk until you could get a pretty fucking GUI?
Sellout bastards. You disgust even me.
As you can tell from my language, I'm a BSD user.
OpenBSD, Closed Ports. Eat Me.
_Monkeyman X_
Yeah, mod me as a troll. "Mod up moderate contemporary comments that promote the status quo, mod down extreme or abrasive comments that force the truth on an unwilling herd."
You can't handle the truth. Die, mods, die.
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead