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Credit Suisse First Boston Fined $100 Million

A couple of people wrote in to note that Credit Suisse First Boston, which was the underwriter for VA Linux ? ' IPO, has been fined $100 million for actions they took in that and other high-tech IPO's during the stock market boom. CSFB allocated shares of certain IPO's to customers who made kickbacks to CSFB. Here's their side of the story. There's also an additional statement by the regulators and CSFB's settlement agreement (PDF).

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  1. GASP! by ekrout · · Score: 5, Funny

    GASP! Now they're only worth $20 trillion.

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  2. Re:Why? by geekoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    this is why people form corporations.
    remove corporate "status" people would go to jail.
    Why do you think corporations exist, to help consumers? hahaha

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  3. The chickens are coming home to roost. by mrsam · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wouldn't be surprised if a few other brokerages will get nailed pretty soon, for similar kinds of shennanigans. Disclaimer: I have no direct knowledge of any regulatory investigation of ETrade, but we all know that they pretty much played the same games with RHAT.

    At least with CSFB did in fact give a handful of shares to everyone who applied for the friends-in-family deal - AFAIK - while ETrade tried to come up with every excuse in the book to kick out as many people as they could in their friends-and-family program. Although some of us did eventually get our pound of flesh (see my website: E*Trouble to revisit those exciting times) it would be icing on the cake to see EGRP whacked on the balls, again.

  4. Re:Not Funny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    VA Linux, which, if you're like me, you have your retirement savings invested in

    I have this strange urge to laugh and cry at the same time...

  5. Re:Cry me a River by mccalli · · Score: 4, Insightful
    However, it still begs an important question: How can wealth "evaporate"? b

    Wealth measured in stock is purely a matter of belief and confidence. If everyone believes your stocks are worth something, then they will be willing to pay a price for them.

    If circumstances change and confidence goes, then people no longer believe your stocks are worth anything and so no-one will pay any more. The upshot? Your wealth has evaporated.

    Of course, a counter argument would be that, with stocks, you never had any wealth in the first place. You merely had the potential to try and convert paper figures into reality.

    Cheers,
    Ian

  6. How about the clients that made the money? by Great_Geek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay, so they (finally) nailed CSFB. How about the other side of that transaction? All those clients that made all those millions - they just live happily after? From the news releases, CSFB was stupid enough to keep records in nice spreadsheets, so it should be easy to identify and fine the clients too.

    The cynical view says it won't happen - the brokers like to keep the clients happy.

  7. It's a civil matter, not criminal by mr_death · · Score: 4, Informative
    Why do the rich just get fined?

    Because the "charge" involved a violation of SEC and NASD regulations, not a criminal charge (e.g., Murder.) The $100m is a combination of "disgorged profits" (you have to love the legalese) and a fine.

    This has nothing to do with "the Swiss" -- CSFB is a multinational.

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  8. Wall Street Shenanigans by solman · · Score: 5, Informative

    The extraordinary thing about this is how lightly CSFB (and the street as a whole) is getting off. The profits from inappropriate IPO allocations alone substantially exceeded the penalties.

    No penalties will ever be assessed against the hundreds of analysts who hyped internet stocks in exchange for those companies giving their firms a slice of the investment banking business.

    Ask any analyst from any wall street firm, sell side or buy side, and they will tell you that everybody does this. Compare the SEC's treatment of big firms doing outwardly crooked things to their treatment of the little guy.

    It looks like they're too busy busting 15-year olds to attack the real stock manipulators.

  9. Dot com by BluedemonX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ever heard the expression "Boston Wad" or "Pigeon Drop?" It's a con game where you get a roll of dollars, then add a fifty to the top. Wrap with elastic band.

    Then you find your mark, and agree to go drinking. Show him the huge wad of "fifties". Drop it (with him in tow) in a locker or safety deposit box and keep the key.

    Later on in the evening, get a phone call/page or something telling you to get out of town or whatever. (This works really well if both of you are dopers/criminal element) Suggest to your new friend that you need to boot out of town and could he grab you $400 from the ATM for bus fare, etc? He's totally entitled to keep the $1000 in the locker - you haven't time to get it and get out of town and are willing to eat the loss in order to save your neck.

    You get the $400 and split. Your "friend" finds out his wad was worth $75 or so.

    Dotcoms were pigeon drops. Legal ones. "Oh, uh, yeah, this stock's going to be the next Microsoft. Want mine for $100 a share? I made enough money on it having bought in at $3 a share!"

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  10. On that note, when will ESR step up and write... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ..."Even More Surprised By Poverty", his sequel to the much-ballyhooed "Surprised by Wealth"- an account of his candid feelings on being worth $36 million-ish after the VA Linux IPO?

    A back-of-the-napkin calculation shows that $36M to now be $350K. Of course, to be fair, that still ain't exactly hurting. But yeesh, hindsight makes "Surprised By Wealth" one seriously painful read...

    And even richer a read, given CSFB's plight, is the ZDNet article on the subject of ESR's fortune, which, with unintended irony, observes:
    "Some open-source developers are envious of those whose work has brought them wealth. Some who could have made money from the recent VA Linux IPO weren't able to because they didn't have enough money or connections to get onboard the VA Linux IPO bandwagon.

    The age-old question of the open-source community has been: "How do we make money at this?" That question, at least for some developers, has now been answered..."
    Yeah. It's been answered alright.