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California's "Wireless-Free" Zone

pangur writes: "In Wired, there's the story about how Arthur Firstenberg changed Mendocino, CA into a 'wireless-free zone' as a safehaven for those deemed 'electrically sensitive'. His critics claim that he is driving away any chance of a significant economy."

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  1. News flash! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Flamebait

    Sensitive, luddite granola types spotted in California! Nose cut to spite face! News at 11:00!

  2. Re:FIRSTUS POSTUS!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    That website is down. But here is another link of our glorious Queen!

  3. Re:other things by dnoyeb · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Those are all incidental radiation. Microwaves are intentional radiation and are used to TRANSMIT power, not always to simply carry a signal. Microwaves are the same waves that cook your food. Think about it. it IS cooking you. But on such a small level that you dont notice it. Its like drinking a beer, that kills millions of cells, but who notices? Microwaves may cook 1 or 2 cells every now and then. But why should they continue to claim that its harmless. its logically and certainly NOT harmless. Its just that they feel the level of harm is of no concern. And that 1996 law that says local govenrments can not take any action against any issues based on safety from radiation? WTF is that? were being hoed.

  4. don't dismiss this so easily by dewdrops · · Score: 0, Flamebait


    It looks like the /. community immediately assumed this guy is looney.

    I don't know if all of his symptoms are real or imagined, but I will say that using a cell phone or coming close to a wireless ethernet card gives me a migraine every time, and this has been verified in a blind test (friend plugged in card, brought me into the room without telling me it's state; migraine. next day unplugged in card, brought me into the room; no migraine).

    Maybe these kinds of radiation aren't harmful to most people, but let's not immediately dismiss this; I think, if nothing else, this issue should be studied by public researchers because Sprint, AT&T, etc. certaintly aren't going to do anything that would in anyway hurt their profits (cf.tabacco companies and the harmful effects of tabacco).

    so let's not dismiss this out of hand; it's a reasonable question.

    Drew

  5. even Lud would be embarrassed by this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Firstenberg is just another Jewish nut, using the government to impose his values on others.

    Whether it's Greenpeace, the Nature Conservancy, or PETA, the Jewish crazies are trying to bury civilization.

    Too bad it wasn't someone like Jim Bakker or Jerry Falwell, then it would be OK to laugh at them. Because Firstenberg is Jewish, we have to treat his insanity seriously, for fear of being labelled a Holocaust Denier.

  6. A Brief Compassion Break by drooling-dog · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    I agree that the symptoms these people are experiencing are almost certainly not caused by what they think they are, but on the other hand I think the ridicule they're getting here is unnecessary and mean-spirited. The possibility that the symptoms are "psychosomatic" - e.g., stress-related or whatever - does not make them any less real, and we're fools if we think that we're guaranteed never to have to go through something similar.

    That said, though, it's also true that we can't impose the burden of remediation on everyone else unless we're reasonably confident that the "true" cause has been identified, and that can only be done with the kind of controlled studies that several others have suggested here.

    But give these people a break; their suffering is real even if they're grasping for bogus explanations...

  7. Re:Oh no! Certain doom! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Please, you idiots making fun of these people, you
    are true idiots and it is becouse you are not complaining
    on the companies instead. They should create products
    not transmitting harmful radiation. They should
    find alternative methods of doing same things that
    doesnt HARM humans.

    And becouse, you are the #1 on the list to become
    electricsensitive. And many of you are that already
    Your ears getting hot? It feels like sand in your
    eyes? Dry skin? And many more things that are signs
    of electricsensitivity. And if you got these symptoms
    you are very close to become electric sensitive
    and should consider using computers less or change
    monitors, remove DC clocks, shutdown cell phones
    when not used, and so on.

    But, what slashdotter thinks about these things?

    Mod: Fuck you if you mod me troll or flamebait

  8. Re:Dehydration? Suspicious quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    That is real dehydration. When it become a sickness. These people are living, eating and
    not lying in a hopsital bed.

    But I guess youre a stupid jew.

  9. He probably calls himself a "progressive" by GCP · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Nobody hates progress more. Welcome to my world: Northern California.

    The voters in places like Mendocino, Berkeley, Santa Cruz, San Francisco, Oakland... tend to consider the scientific method to be part of the "vast right-wing conspiracy". Their politics reflect how far beyond scientific reasoning they've "evolved".

    --
    "Those who have never entered upon scientific pursuits know not a tithe of the poetry by which they are surrounded."