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New File Sharing Networks

Posted by michael on from the bootlegging-for-dummies dept.

An anonymous reader sends in: "Most readers of slashdot have been following the exploits of the RIAA and their attempts to shut down Napster, KaZaA, Morpheus, etc. In response, it appears some live music fans have taken things into their own hands and started new file sharing networks made exclusively for trading live recordings of bands that allow that sort of thing. The main player, RNL has reached version 1.0, features a distributed architecture, supports linux, and is even GPLed. Another peice of interesting software is Furthur. Though still only in beta, Furthur has cool features like allowing a user to piggy-back another user's download to reduce the load of the uploader."

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  1. Why not just open shares ? by CDWert · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why not just open a unprotected share on you computer set max number of clients, run a port scanner that indexes all other open shares on whather class c you tell it to.

    Set up an index server that does this as well as downloads a lists.txt file that has all the songs in your share directory indexed, a shell script on a cron tab to reindex and upload you lists,

    FUCK the RIAA and MPAA, they would have to remove network capability from all computers.

    Im not trolling Im serious. Make it as grey as possible. There is no way MS / SUN /IBM is going to remove the ability to network file share, make this p2p an extension of that. Most modern operating systems have the cabability built in.

    GREY, GREY, GREY .
    Make it about the comanies violationg free speech, not in the lame ass way others have tried, ALSO a point you can sue judges, and cout officers, police etc, IF IT HAS BEEN PROVEN they VIOLATED you basic civil rights, Making people stop sharing whatever they wish I belive is a violation of my free speech. Set up a honeypot service, that only trades uncopyrigthed materials and lie in wait for the RIAA and some overzealous most likey bribed judges, and open fire, first nail the RIAA on hacking attempts, then go after everyone in line.

    If the courts become succeptiable to injury as weel, maybe some of this crap would never make it in the first place.

    Yes, I have reached karma cap and need no more, please mod this down as needed :)

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  2. MD5 Checking & illegal uploads by asv108 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I really like the idea of using MD5 to ensure file integrity across the network. I hate searching for a file on Gnutella and finding 13 different versions. Of course, the tape trading and sharing communities have been on the cutting edge for quite some time. Phish and Grateful dead enthusiasts were the first to embrace, lossless formats such as SHN, and even older technologies such as DAT. Laptop recording is also taking off as well, they even sell a modified cursoe powered picturebook that is made for concert taping.

    As far as illegal uploads are concerned, there is a list of the bands and material types that are currently allowed. I haven't tried this app yet, I will as soon as I get off work, but I would imagine that client communicates with a centralized server to check MD5 sums and also check filenames so the only way to actually put up a illegal file for sharing is change its name to something like 11.29.98-Phish-David-Bowie03.shn and post it as a new file so a MD5sum is created. BTW my domain, http://www.phataudio.org was originally an old school phish mp3 site ;)

  3. As someone that runs one by ethank · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I run a website called Murmurs.com, which is for the band REM. We run a Napster-clone on our servers using SlavaNap as the main server (Windows yes, I know, but it was more stable than OpenNap). The desired client is WinMX.

    REM has a kind of blind-eye mentality toward the sharing network, so long as what is being shared is live or unreleased tracks. As well, we allow sharing of other bands which support this mentality (Wilco, Pearl Jam, Patti Smith, Radiohead, U2, etc).

    A lot of the files are sourced by someone running a free FTP server (called ThinkTankDecoy, which makes sense if you know REM history). People download from that server and it permeates through the shared server.

    Ice Magazine recently ran a feature on our sharing system, a U2 one and Pearl Jam. Here's a quote:

    "At www.murmurs.com, www.fivehorizons.com and www.u2bloodredsky.com- three unofficial but overt REM, pearl Jam, and U2 sites- one can easily nevigate past message forums and band news to locate mp3 concerts uploaded by fans. The U2 site is set up like a database, and provides tips for people un familiar with PTP. The REM site requires user registration, and directs how to install its own custom file-swapping software. It also recently featured an exclusive interview with guitarist peter Buck. when told that both a rare 1980 show and thhe entire, unedited portion of the recent MTV "Unplugged" broadccast had been posted to Murmurs.com, he replied "I like the fact that we've done this huge mountain of work, and that every now and then I'll find a bootleg of some 85 German tv show...."

    Ice Magazine is maintstream industry press.

    Considering the size of U2, PJ and REM, its nice to see that at least some big bands don't listen to the RIAA's squawking.

    Ethan