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Printer Quotas in Linux?

borgquite asks: "At the school that I work for students waste a lot of paper and toner because they print without thinking. I've been looking at printer quota / charging software, but unfortunately I can't seem to find any for Linux, and the Windows based software is all priced far too high. What I need to do is to say that students can print a certain amount per day/week/month/year, and provide a system where they can pay to increase their quota. I've looked for Linux / BSD based solutions, but all I could find is lots of references to a tool called lpquota, but no information on how I can obtain and implement this on my network. Does anyone know of such a system?"

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  1. lprng/ifhp and printers with hardware pagecounters by elvisior · · Score: 3, Informative

    lprng/ifhp and printers with hardware pagecounters enable this functionality. We have implemented this for approximately 50 great lexmark laser printers across 5 campuses (hint.. look at the achk and af entries that you can put in to an lprng printcap file).

    I strongly recommend reading lprng doco regarding pagecounting. And then don't follow our example and use software based counting instead (which we may test when we get time.. I think it is also much easier to implement as good hardware page counters in printers are rare these days).

  2. CUPS by Fellgus · · Score: 3, Informative

    CUPS (Common Unix Printing System) has support for simple quotaing. You can limit number of pages per user per time interval (e.g. month) and so forth. You cannot however set quotas per user individually or per user group. THere is, however a page_log which logs who has print how many pages. This can be used to disable access to the printing server for those who print to much to your likings :)

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  3. Counting 'showpage' wont work by Bazman · · Score: 2
    PostScript is a programming language. The 'showpage' could be embedded in a loop, or more likely in a function that the software inserts at the end of a page. A 200 page file might only have one showpage.

    To count the number of pages in a PostScript file you'll have to run it through a PostScript interpreter (e.g. GhostScript) and get it to count the pages. You'll then have to send the PS to the printer (or if you have a non-PS printer driven by GS you could count the pages and spit the GS output to the printer simultaneously).

    Printers with hardware page counters are a better bet - get the page count, print the job, get the page count, subtract.

    1. Re:Counting 'showpage' wont work by Bazman · · Score: 2

      hehe nice one. The top hack would be to fiddle your 200-page postscript document to spot if it was being run by ghostscript and only print one page, yet when being run by a genuine Adobe interpreter on a PS printer to print the full 200 pages, yet only be billed for the one page counted by the gs thing!

      My problem with hardware page counters is how to determine when to query the printer. Surely the printer will cache up as much of the print job as it can and as soon as it has then the spooler will think its done, and if you get a pagecount then the printer wont have done all the pages.

      I really think there has to be some way of the printer saying 'I've just finished job XXX, and I printed YYY pages' in order to do it reliably.

      Baz

  4. Re:Fairly easy to implement by ivan256 · · Score: 2

    I remember that one of the departments at my college bought some rather pricy windows software to implement quotas. We quickly figured out that if you printed a postscript document generated by a2ps it only counted as one page. Apparently the software must have assumed that people would only be printing poorly generated postscript documents. I don't believe they ever figured out where all the paper was going.

  5. Other options by Bullschmidt · · Score: 2

    If you do implement printing quotas, it would be nice to also provide options like printing 4 pages on one sheet, and maybe double sided printing. This doesn't reduce toner costs (the more expensive part, I would presume), but it does reduce paper use, which is always a nice plus. I used to do this when I needed to print out tons of pages of class notes at the end of the semester.

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  6. Printbill for fair quotas by whydna · · Score: 2

    Check out Printbill. It provides a fair way to bill printjobs. Basically, when you print a job, it scans the document and analyzes the amount of ink that is actually used. Then, it charges the user for cost of the ink and the paper. If the user has a sufficient quota to cover the job, it'll print it.

    It's designed to be used in a pre-pay system. But it's all in perl, so you could easily hack it to support other methods (i.e. email them a bill at the end of the semester, etc.)

    -Andy

  7. bounce queues by coyote-san · · Score: 2

    This is slightly off-topic, but it's already a good practice to use two (or more) lprng queues.
    All of the "public" queues are located on a central server, where the jobs are "cooked" by ghostscript, troff, whatever (you can easily create very specialized queues!) and the results 'bounced' into a 'raw' queue for each printer. The raw queues may be held on the print server, but they ultimately feed queues on the systems that host the individual printers.

    The point of mentioning this? It's not practical to count the number of pages of the original queue, but it shouldn't be hard to run the 'raw' queue through a filter that parses the PCL being sent to the printer and counts the number of "page eject" (or whatever PCL uses) in each job. At worst this would require an additional bounce queue for each printer, but it wouldn't require additional disk space since the jobs shouldn't remain in this queue for long.

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  8. Roll your own? by larien · · Score: 2
    I actually wrote my own stuff for this while I was working at a Uni. Quotas were held in a PostgreSQL database (which means you don't have to worry about file locks etc) and I used ghostscript to do page counts of everything which was printed (there's some stuff on this on the web; basically you add a few lines of postscript to the end of the job which prints out the number of pages in the PS/PCL doc). Text documents were kludged to be #pages=lines/80 (or something)

    It worked pretty well, apart from some issues with certain printer drivers where my scripts didn't pick up the fact it was postscript so it counted the number of lines/80! For graphics, this gave some very skewed results, but that was fixed easily enough. Wish I'd kept the scripts; they took me a while to write...

  9. Re:no need for hardware pagecounters. by Zurk · · Score: 2, Informative

    you can do it all in software. i implemented a printbill (http://freshmeat.net/projects/printbill/) based system with debian print servers, postgresql for the database and printbill to handle the rest. printbill can also be obtained with apt-get install printbill and it gives stuff like per page toner accounting, coverage accounting and stuff for inkjet printers as well as lasers. very useful.

  10. See http://printing.kde.org for a tutorial by chowells · · Score: 3, Informative
  11. PaperCut for linux by cdance · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm the developer of PaperCut , a Windows print charging system. I'm about 3/4 the way through developing a Samba/Linux version (done in my spare time). I'm aiming for an initial release in March. The applications has a number of components; a page count parser written in C, an application server and webadmin interface in Python, and it all sit's on PostgreSQL. It simply substitutes the lp command in smb.conf . I haven't yet decided on a licence however it'll most likely be GPL. Keep an eye on the website. Windows charging systems are quite expensive. This is due to the high development costs associated with maintaining compatibility with the every changing Win print drivers. You will however find that the systems will usually pay for themselves very quickly (amazing how much students will print if it's for free!). I'm hoping a community supported page count parser will ensure a viable Linux version. Chris

  12. Washington Univesity by KurdtX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think that's what we used. You'd have to talk to the person in charge of the lab (go to www.cec.wustl.edu/news) and click on that email link - she's an administrator (as in she shuffles paperwork), but she's in charge and can point you to who you need to talk to. I think we use lpquota (Wash U doesn't enforce the limits - see below) and we run it off UNIX, but that's as much as I know.

    You also might want to be sure that this is a good idea, like I said, we run lpquota, but don't enforce it 'cause it's not worth the time to track down and add a $.50 charge to someone's transcript, have them raise hell 'cause they didn't know there was a printer limit, and then ultimately get someone to remove it. Not to mention then getting your ass chewed after this happens enough times.

    If you actually want to affect the people who print out large numbers of pages, screen out any print jobs larger than 50 pages (not file size) - it's amazing how many people view something a few pagedowns into a really long (poorly segmented) webpage, and then click pring, expecting only that page to show up, and then not realize that it comes out as 104 pages take the 1 they want and throw the rest away (ignoring the bright blue recycle bin). If people complain to your lab admins or whoever, it's an excellent chance to teach them the wonders of how to choose exactly which pages (ie, pages 3-4) they actually want.

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