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Gingerman writes "The BBC is running a story about a full automated lifestyle centre in Wokingham UK. The centre has everything from the home to the office and includes shops too." It's a little thin on details, but its a mix of practical things that could be around the corner, and stuff that may be a little further down a 6 lane interstate.

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  1. Not this world... by Howie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Too bad that a big assumption of the project is that providers of information on the web want to provide it in a format that is useful to an automated agent, when in reality they seem to do all they can to stop you making useful tools like these automated agents. Despite the development of things like XML, JINI and WSDL - all technologies designed to minimise the amount of customisation needed between strangers - the people who have this type of info aren't exactly jumping on those technologies.

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    1. Re:Not this world... by Snodgrass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're exactly right, and (for some reason) I was thinking about this very thing the other day.

      It seems to me the solution would be to make it worth it to the providers of that information. It's all about money, and providers don't play nice with automated agents because they take without giving back (clicking ads, etc.).

      I mean, maybe it could be setup in a way that you can pay a small subscription for certain services. Of course, it would have to be really convenient/neato for me to pay for something that I can get for free, but it's possible.

      As an example: I can jump on weather.com for free and see what the forecast is for the next couple of days, but I might pay $5 a month to be able to say "computer: what's the weather look like for this week" and get a detailed response spoken back to me. (that ranks pretty high on the neato scale :) )

      When it comes to convenience, it seems we as a society spare no expense. That seems to me to be the only way that this would ever really work.

  2. Remember... by Chagatai · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This reminds me of all of the old Disney shows where they would show "The World of The Future!" where people would have pop-up refrigerators and TVs from their kitchen counters. Except this time it's being done by HP, and it looks like there is a 100% drop in the number of jetpacks and spaceships to Mars.

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  3. Ridiculous by Lord+Hugh+Toppingham · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The UK has such a high cost of living (in part due to the socialistic policies of Tony Blair) with a DSL connection costing $70/month (single user) its hard to see how the UK can compete with other high tech countries such as Singapore.

  4. House of the future... by JPRelph · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The tone of the article just reminds me so much of those 1950's visions of future houses that would be fully automated and have robots to clean the dishes and wash the cats. There's just about one thing articles like this are good for, and thats for cheap laughs in about 50 years time.

  5. Call it flame bait...but... by Em+Emalb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are times when I want nothing more than to get away from anything computer related. I enjoy fly fishing for example. Just a rod,reel, and hopefully, some fish. I work on computers all damned day, and when I go home, the LAST thing I want is to have to interact with yet another computer. The tech is really cool, and I like the idea of seperating each into areas, work, home, etc...but what happens if you want to get away from it all? If this is their vision of the future, (and what else can it be?) then I hope they allow for those of us that don't *WANT* to be tied into the system all the time. Ok, now mod at your discretion.

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  6. Cooltown, RIAA/MPAA style by Dan+Crash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's five o'clock in the morning. The alarm beeps to life and a soft female voice with an American accent comes over the speakers:

    "I'm waking you 30 minutes early so you can change into your grey suit before the Copyright Police arrive to detain you. I've alerted them to the unauthorized copies of several Universal film properties I detected on your portable drive after you docked it last night, as required by the Intellectual Property Theft Act of 2009. Would you like me to play you some light rock as you get dressed? Current prices are $4.99 per half hour."

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    1. Re:Cooltown, RIAA/MPAA style by bughunter · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "Would you like me to play you some light rock as you get dressed? Current prices are $4.99 per half hour."

      This reflects my first thoughts upon reading this article -- how much will the subscription fees for all these services cost? Surely no one is going to sell you any commodity... no, everything will be licensed in a manner that wraps you up quite tidily so you have no rights whatsoever despite the fact that you pay more for the content than you do for the hardware it renders on.

      Let's read the story again and estimate as we go how much this will cost the typical CoolTown inhabitant each and every month in the not-too-far-distant future:

      • $2.95 - Time server subscription
      • $15.00 - 'Lolita' voice personality license
      • $4.95 - Traffic conditions subscription
      • $56.14 - Typical cost of "Lite Rock" at $4.99/30min using 30 min/day on weekdays
      • $40.00 - Shuttle pass with Realtime Bus Locator and ETA service
      • $69.99 - Residential broadband internet access and 3 realtime video email accounts
      • $30.00 - FCC fee for residential wireless network spectrum allocation
      • $19.95 - Wireless telephone service
      • $3.95 - Personal consumer preference profile registration
      • $6.75 - Access fees for personal consumer preference profile (3/wk at $0.50 each)
      • $4.16 - Monthly cost of season subscription to NFL scores and highlights

        And since "the first CoolTown centre was set up in California," let's put our hypothetical uberwired citizen there

      • $1.25 - CA internet operator's license fee, Class A ($15/yr)
      • $5.00 - CA Radiated Electromagnetic Energy Pollution Mitigation fee for ultrawideband residential wireless network
      • $15.00 - LA County Tarriff for subscription to interstate entertainment services
      • $75.00 - Mandatory Libel and Flame insurance

        Total average monthly cost: $350.09

      This is the reason that I don't have a cellphone, pager, wireless email terminal, personal video recorder, or other newfangled doodad. Hell, I don't even have cable. (Officially, that is.) All those little subscription fees add up, and before you know it, you're paying more for your "digital lifestyle" than you are for rent on your flat. And as service providers and content providers realize how digital rights management can wring more and more licensing fees out of the consumer, the situation is only going to get worse.
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  7. They'll be looking hard for a target market... by WaIter+Bell · · Score: 2, Insightful
    My brother was on the board of directors of a medium-sized home automation company (no, not the annoying one), and they considered creating and subsidizing an operation like this to showcase all of their cutting-edge products. They did their market research back in 1998, when there were countless dot-com nouveau millionaires who were looking for cool new ways to blow a wad of cash on their pathetic selves, and found strong demand for their project. In fact, the late 90s made the company extremely wealthy and many of their staffers took an early retirement.

    Fast forward to 2002. The company has scaled back their operations considerably. New market research data shows that there is almost nobody who would want to pay to live in a fully automated apartment. Hopeless companies no longer have stock valuations based more in ignorance than in profit potential. The Era of High Tech Toys has passed us by. I'm not sure what HP, "home of the earnings warning," is thinking, but something tells me that their cool new automated homes are not going to pave the way back to profitability.

    ~wally

  8. Adoption and integration barriers by Tomster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is all very cool stuff (for those of us who could benefit from this kind of technology). I am really looking forward to this kind of thing. I know I spend way too much time doing things that could be [more] automated or completely eliminated. But there are two barriers that will keep it from happening in the near future.

    In order for this kind of lifestyle to be possible, many large (and small) companies across a wide variety of industries must adopt and integrate the technology to make this happen. Adoption of new technologies is slow enough by itself. How many of us work in companies where Win98 and NT4 are the default desktop OS's, despite the availability of new, better versions? And this is a technology that's well understood and relatively painless to upgrade. (Yes, I said relatively painless, not without pain.)

    Integration between two or more companies takes much longer than adoption within a single organization. Remember the B2B craze? After all the fallout, there's not much of it left.

    Companies exist to make money, not adopt and implement new technologies. New means risky, unproven, and that risk makes executives and shareholders nervous. And some of the things involved in creating this "digital lifestyle" are a hard sell, from a profitability standpoint. How do you convince the board or executive team that it makes good business sense to invest in developing a service that lets people know when their bus is going to arrive at the bus stop? So they change at a slow pace to reduce the perceived risk.

    This is some amazing work, frankly I'm surprised at how much can be done just with today's technology! I'm really looking forward to the time when it can make a significant difference in the quality of my life.

    -Thomas