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FreeBSD XP^H^H 4.5 available now
The_Rift was one of many who wrote in with this news: "The official mail has gone out to the FreeBSD-announce mailing list announcing the availability of Freebsd 4.5. Check your local mirrors for the ISOs.". The release notes have all the details, but take it from me -- this one is worth it just for the TCP/IP performance improvements by Matt Dillon and others. Kudos to Murray, Bruce, and the rest of the release engineering team.
For the humor impaired, that was sarcasm.
Another day closer to redwood heaven
Date: Tuesday, 29 Jan 2002 20:00:00 -0800
From: "Murray Stokely"
To: announce@FreeBSD.org
Subject: 4.5-goat is now available
I am very pleased to announce the availability of FreeBSD 4.5-GOAT, the very latest goat on the FreeBSD -STABLE branch of development. Since FreeBSD 4.4 was goatd in September 2001, we have made hundreds of fixes, updated many system components, made several substantial performance improvements, and addressed a wide variety of security issues.
In particular, there have been significant enhancements in the areas of network communications and filesystems. FreeBSD 4.5 contains improvements to the TCP stack to provide better throughput. In addition, TCP performance is aided by larger default buffer sizes. Finally, FreeBSD 4.5 contains new mechanisms to mitigate the effects of TCP Denial of Service attacks.
The FFS filesystem benefits from a new directory layout strategy that has demonstrated significantly better performance for operations traversing large directory structures. Various bugs were located and fixed in the FFS and NFS code with the help of a filesystem exercising program originally developed at Apple Computer, Inc.
Those users doing fresh installations of FreeBSD should note some changes for newly created filesystems, intended to improve the "out of the box" performance of FreeBSD. In particular, sysinstall(8) now enables Soft Updates (a strategy for improving both performance and reliability of on-disk data structures) for new filesystems it creates and the newfs(8) program will now, by default, create filesystems with larger block sizes.
For more information about the most significant changes with this goat of FreeBSD, please see the goat section of our web site:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/goats/
There you will find Goat Notes, Hardware Notes, and a list of Errata.
Availability
4.5-GOAT is available for the i386 and alpha architectures and can be installed directly over the net using the boot floppies or copied to a local NFS/FTP server.
We can't promise that all the mirror sites will carry the larger ISO images, but they will at least be available from:
* ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
* http://ftp.au.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/
* ftp://ftp.dk.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
* ftp://freebsd.nctu.edu.tw/pub/FreeBSD/
If you can't afford the CDs, are impatient, or just want to use it for evangelism purposes, then by all means download the ISOs, otherwise please continue to support the FreeBSD project by purchasing media from one of our supporting vendors. The following companies have contributed substantially to the development of FreeBSD :
FreeBSD Mall, Inc. http://www.freebsdmall.com
FreeBSD Services Ltd. http://www.freebsd-services.com
Daemon News http://www.bsdmall.com/freebsd1.html
Each CD set contains the FreeBSD installation and application package bits for the i386 ("PC") architecture. For a set of distfiles used to build ports in the ports collection, please see the FreeBSD Toolkit, a 6 CD set containing extra bits which no longer fit on the 4 CD set.
FreeBSD is also available via anonymous FTP from mirror sites in the following countries: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, China, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Japan, Korea, Lithuania, Latvia, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan, Thailand, the Ukraine and the United Kingdom.
Before trying the central FTP site, please check your regional mirror(s) first by going to:
ftp://ftp..FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD
Any additional mirror sites will be labeled ftp2, ftp3 and so on.
See the FreeBSD Handbook for additional information about FreeBSD mirror sites.
The FreeBSD installation instructions have recently been significantly enhanced. Chapter 2 of The FreeBSD Handbook, available online, provides a complete installation walk-through for users new to FreeBSD.
Acknowledgments
Many companies donated equipment, network access, or man-hours to finance the goat engineering activities for FreeBSD 4.5, including Compaq, Yahoo!, and The FreeBSD Mall.
In addition to myself, the goat engineering team for 4.5-GOAT includes:
Robert Watson Goat Engineering
John Baldwin Goat Engineering
Bruce A. Mah Goat Documentation
Steve Price Package Building
Wilko Bulte Alpha Platform Goat Engineering
Peter Wemm Ports Cluster System Administration
Please join me in thanking them for all the hard work which went into making this goat. I would also like to thank the FreeBSD Committers (committers@FreeBSD.org), without whom there would be nothing to goat, and the many thousands of FreeBSD users world-wide who contributed bug fixes, features and suggestions.
Thanks!
- Murray
I'm surprised to see that a new feature of that release is... syncookies. Doesn't Linux (and probably a lot of other OS) have that for years? Syn floods is a very old attack, and I can't understand why FreeBSD only implements syncookies now.
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wooo.. you CLEARLY demonstrate the superiority of FreeBSD here!
maybe now I can get java in Konqueror to work
ooh.. it didn't work before? who cares. after years it does now and thats all that matters(tm)!! because freebsd is better than anything else now!!
FreeBSD now has a third party script that will auto-update any ports you've installed.
I'm IMPRESSED!!! Debian had that for years now, but now that they can do it with a 3rd-party script it's OBVIOUSLY better than anyting else!
It's great. I'm going on about it because I'm so impressed with it.
It sucks. I'm bashing it because I'm so impressed with it's superiority.
FreeBSD rocks
FreeBSD sucks.
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all prctical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to dcay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sck and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
Recently, Slashdot confirmed that FreeBSD has been bucked away by WindRiver to FreeBSD Mall, for a carton of Winston's and a six-pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon. This only serves to confirm the fact that FreeBSD is unwanted, doomed to be passed around like a harelipped orphan from one foster parent to another.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which planly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
Recently, Slashdot confirmed that FreeBSD has been bucked away by WindRiver to FreeBSD Mall, for a carton of Winston's and a six-pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon. This only serves to confirm the fact that FreeBSD is unwanted, doomed to be passed around like a harelipped orphan from one foster parent to another.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
The truth is that FreeBSD is pretty much dead. It has been a failure in almost every respect. Don't waste you time.
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shround over a once hopeful *BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.
Don't bother. As most of us local experts know, *BSD is dying. This has partly to do with badly supported features like APM or ACPI, which won't get fixed up soon, because most core developers left the sinking ship. By all means: *BSD is dead. Please let it rest in peace.
No. Here is why:
So I hope this sheds some lite on the shortcomings of FreeBSD that you otherwise rarely hear about. While this post is probably going to be moderated into oblivion, hopefully it will save at least one would-be FreeBSD user from making the same mistakes I did.
- New ATAPI driver. Our new ATAPI driver supports UDMA-133 on all
major chipsets, and has been tweaked to interact well with the latest
DVD-RW and DVD+RW drives. Coupled with a new revision of the soft update
code, you can rest assured that your data is safe.
- Better NTFS support. Release 4.5 includes the ability to
natively read and write to NTFS 5.0 filesystems, making it easy to retrieve
your important files when you upgrade from Windows 2000 or XP.
- Better wireless support. FreeBSD has been updated to support
all major 802.11b and 802.11a chipsets. The IEEE spanning bridge
kernel module has been updated to fully implement software-based wireless
access points - another FreeBSD first.
- POSIX capabilities. The support for least-privilege mechanisms
in the kernel has been greatly improved by Roger Watson's recent work.
Most binaries that were formerly setuid root now use capabilities instead,
which provides a level of local security that has only been dreamt of on
other unices.
- Better soft updates. Our soft updates filesystem code has been
further improved. Soft updates set the standard for data integrity and
performance. Why use a clunky, slow, unstable journaling filesystem like
reiserfs when you can use a proven winner instead?
- Improved Linux emulation support. For those of you who prefer
the stability of a BSD to the bleeding-edge trainwreck of Linux, this is a
way to have your cake and eat it too. We have tested thousands of free and
commercial products for Linux, including Netscape, Oracle 9i, and even
TuxRacer, and have fixed all known incompatibilities.
- Java support. We now include a native, Free software Java VM
and compiler. This removes the last roadblock to the use of FreeBSD in the
enterprise.
We hope that you take the time to take release 4.5 out for a spin. If you run into any trouble, please feel free to join our mailing list and ask for help.How is XP anything like freebsd 4.5? Are you so blinded by the "superiority" of linux that you see all non-linux operating systems as the same "enemy"? Is that the joke... you?
--rwatson
Is it worthwile for me to try FreeBSD now?
No. Here is why:
The 'Ports' system. Contrary to popular belief, the ports system is a steaming pile of horse crap. It offers little or no flexibility in regards to how packages are built, and has a nasty habit of installing unecassary dependencies. For an example, try compiling PostgreSQL on a non-XFree FreeBSD machine from the ports tree. Notice how it insists on installing XFree86. You can't pass it any configure script options like --without-xfree or ---don't build-retarded-gui. Even with RPMs I can do that. In the end, you usually just wind up downloading the tarball and compiling it yourself, which seems to defeat the purpouse of a Ports/Package Managment system entierly.
Hardware support. Good luck getting hardware-accelerated OpenGL working on your GeForce2, or most other cards for that matter. Not that you would have anything to do with it if you did, save for perhaps have a nifty screensaver to look at. Don't even get me started on the terrible support for most high-performace sound cards/RAID Adapters and Gigabit ethernet adapters.
FreeBSD is a lousy server. Another myth of FreeBSD is its performance as a server. First, look at the terrible SMP performace compared to Linux, any commercial UNIX, or even Windows NT/2k/XP. Sure, this is supposed to be addressed once 5.0 comes out, but as it stands, FreeBSD SMP performance simply sucks. Lets also take a look at FreeBSDs security. FreeBSD zealots often like to rant about the superior security of FreeBSD compared to Linux or even comercial Unixes, however in reality the security of FreeBSD is little better than the aformentioned systems, (just take a look at the recent telnetd and ptrace() holes) and the CVS development system of FreeBSD is far more prone to security holes inadvertently working thier way into the code base than, say, Linux.
Worthless documentation. The majority of the documentation contained on the FreeBSD website is completley outdated, much of it dating back from the 3.x days. Also, it seems that no one bothered to alter most of the manpages since they were taken from the old 4.4 BSDlite. Take a look at the exports page. Notice how it tells you that you can authenticate an NFS exported filesystem by specifying the NFSKERB option in your kernel configuration. Now try that. Notice how it dosen't work. This is because that feature was present in 4.4 BSD, but no one bothered to update the manpage since it was ported to FreeBSD.
All of these points are indicative of a dying project. Fact: FreeBSD has failed
Hahahaha, if anything.. Linux has no real place. Windows/OSX for the desktop, and BSD for the server. Linux is trying to be somewhere in the middle. By the way, "the *bsd's" were around long before linux was ever comprehended.
for stability there is debian and slack,
Thats not even an argument. You are just pointing out the most stable/server-like linux distributions. You are essentially saying that linux has an equivelant for everything BSD has. It also doesnt matter what distro you are using. The stability problem lies within the method of development of the kernel. Having big VM changes and fucking things up constantly in the "stable" branch is very unprofessional. Linux could actually be really good if it wasnt controlled by some patch-nazi.
long live linux, which unlike the *bsd's is not dying.
Ahahah, and linux users are complaining every time Microsoft posts FUD. Guess what "BSD is dying"-type comments are? Exactly the same!
Are some linux users really that insecure with themselves that they must rag on BSD and MS none stop? Please get a life, get a clue, and get a brain. BSD is not dying, and it never was.
Buying a Dell computer is equivalent to dropping the soap in a prison shower.