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Modern Day Noah's Ark Dying

hype7 writes "The Sydney Morning Herald is running a story about the Monash Institute of Reproduction and Development's Gene Bank, which appears to be running out of funding. It seems a terrible shame, because the Bank has managed to accumulate thousands of Australian and foreign endangered species; a kind of modern day Noah's Ark. At the moment it's in limbo, using funds diverted from other projects to keep it in ER, but the prospects aren't looking good."

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  1. getting the priorities right. by Alien54 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The Gene Bank, the only one of its type in Australia, has lost its technician and the laboratories used for the program face being taken over by a well-funded program on cattle breeding.

    [shakes head] Sounds like the government there really has it's priorities straight.

    I mean, wouldn't even a tenth of the money spent on "protecting" the morality of the Australian websurfing public be better served by setting a good example and protecting the future of the planet?

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  2. Depressing. by ZaBu911 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the kind of thing that would lead to great things, if people continued support for it.

    Would anyone please post information, if they know, pertaining to how we can donate to this museum? I think that many of us would like it.

    "The community don't seem to care really deeply about biodiversity because they are not facing it every day. But it's a big concern among naturalists, conservationists and scientists. There's a decimation of these species."

    The above quote was from the actual article. Their community doesn't care, for whatever reasons. Maybe they don't understand, maybe they don't know, maybe they're just shallow. But I think some of us may care.

    We can use our computer skills to volunteer for them, maybe. Save them some money on hiring a designer for their web presence, making their databases more efficient, etc. This is what we're here for. Show the world that "hackers" do more good than harm.

    1. Re:Depressing. by rscrawford · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are a lot of environmental organizations out there that need computational help, from web design and development to network support to bioinformatics programming. Unfortunately, with the economy the way it is, the funding for these organizations (almost all of which comes from charitable donations) is drying up, so they can't pay for these services (though you might be able to get a tax break for your time). On the other hand, there are a lot of unemployed web programmers now looking for something to do.

      I'm personally spending some volunteer time helping to establish a web presence for a local environmental group building an environmental scorecard for the Say Francisco Bay Area.

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  3. Don't know what you've got till it's gone by maggard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If the Aussies can't fund their own program I'm sure any number of other nations or private institutions would be willing to receive the materials and maintain them.

    Or no doubt some biotech company might be willing to do so in return for rights to the contents and any future derivatives thereof...

    Of course these sorts of prospects usually spur native donors and the project is thus "rescued" but it is sad that things come to such a crisis, particularly when the Australian fauna (and flora) are unique in the world.

    They paved paradise
    And put up a parking lot
    With a pink hotel, a boutique
    And a swinging hot spot
    Don't it always seem to go
    That you don't know what you've got
    Till it's gone
    They paved paradise
    And put up a parking lot.

    They took all the trees
    And put them in a tree museum
    And they charged all the people
    A dollar and a half just to see 'em
    Don't it always seem to go
    That you don't know what you've got
    Till it's gone
    They paved paradise
    And put up a parking lot.

    ...

    - Joni Mitchell - Big Yellow Taxi

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  4. Cost prohibitive storage by keytoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems to me the major expense in a program such as this is the long-term storage of the 'data' - and there doesn't look like there's an easy way over that obstacle.

    I wonder, however, given the current thrust of the genome mapping projects around the globe if this issue can become irrelevant. With the ability to codify the genes in a species comes the ability to store the information in a much less expensive manner - and for much longer periods of time. Simply back it up to tape!

    I know it's a fairly far off vision, but hey...

  5. what are we saving them for? by jest3r · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What is the point of saving a species in a test tube? The planet is only getting worse. if we cannot find a way to co-exist with nature NOW I doubt we ever will.

    I read in todays paper that a forest area the size of Poland is lost each year .. thats over 10 New York city blocks / second .. burned to the ground. We dump sewage, filth and pesticides into our fresh water .. nature is supposed to survive on this while we wont go near it without chlorinating it / filtering it.

    Storing genes in test tubes will not save Endangered Species ... only a strong global commitment to changing our (evil) ways will make a difference ... and then a Modern Day Noah's Ark won't be necessary.

  6. Ethical dilemma. by Typingsux · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Is it the natural order of things for man to come along, industrialize, and cause extinction of thousands of species?
    Is it the natural order of things for when man has technological enough assets to save genetic material to resurrect long gone species?
    Or since it is mans fault for the extinction of a diverse number of animals is it our responsibility to have facilities such as this?

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  7. Public Image Problems... by NOT-2-QUICK · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As unfortunate a statement as it may be about today's society, I believe that one the chief hindrances in this extremely worthy cause finding adequate funding is its poor public image.

    Take for example the WWF (World Wildlife Fund). With their people-friendly, Panda Logo, they manage to secure millions of dollars of funding on an annual basis. Thanks in no small part to having this cute & cuddly, little monster as their mascot, the organization has been able to save numerous lesser-known and less adorable species from total extinction.

    Alternatively, the Monash Institute of Reproduction and Development's Gene Bank, lists the far less lovable Northern Hairy-Nosed Wombat as a "key project"...

    Should the fact that the northern hairy-nosed wombat does not closely resemble the fury little teddy bears we all grew up loving make it any less worthwhile in saving - of course not. Does it make it a more difficult sell to the public and subsequently corporations when attempting to secure research funding - what do you think...

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  8. See Noah's Initial VC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With such an analogy to the Catholic religion, they might want to contact Noah's sole sponsor, or its local branch: The Vatican.

    I DO NOT mean to be disrespectful in any way, but I'm pretty sure they still are the wealthiest entity on the Planet, right?

    And preserving such richess can only be viewed as a valuable cause.

    Just thought I'd mention it.

    Cheers.

  9. Who care?? It wouldn't work anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The premise is totally stupid anyway. You would need to have several dozen dna samples from several different lines of the same species in order to recreate them. Heard of something called in-breeding? If you only took one or two samples of the same species, and tried to re-breed them, within a few generations, there would be so much genetic problems, you should just kill them anyway to get them out of their misery. Don't even bother.

  10. Re:For the better? by DoctaWatson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Saving DNA doesn't mean that we're saving the creatures.

    Taking DNA samples from creatures on the verge of extinction keeps the doors of research open, which will hopefully lead to breakthroughs in medicine and biology.

    If you can't have the animal, having the DNA is probably the next best thing. It's one more piece of the puzzle that we put together to figure out why extinction is happening in the first place.

  11. Re:National Seed Storage Lab by WotanKhan · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "Maybe I'm just dense, but do we really need 30,000 varieties of corn from one continent?"

    Yes.

    With the advent of genetic engineering, the possibility of a "superstrain" of modified corn, replacing wild variants is quite possible. Think of the genetic code of these variants as building blocks for the engineering projects of the future, and consider the fact that, once gone, they can never be replaced.