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MIT's Acrobatic Helicopter

YourHero writes: "MIT has a new toy, a remotely-piloted helicopter that's agile, stable, and in the current public mood, perfect for urban combat and reconnaisance and surveying disaster sites. Oh, and it's also good for aerial photography. It's so good that it even does 360-degree aileron rolls at the flick of a switch. The release gives some basics, videos and other juice are here. This cost $40k, excluding labor, because technically, student labor is "priceless" - so a nod to Kara Sprague, Alex Shterenberg, Ioannis Martinos, Bernard Mettler, and Vlad Gavrilets, who probably provided most of the labor. Stringfellow Hawk has not been reached for comment."

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  1. Re:Awww by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    not so. the Russian Ka-50 has an ejection seat - pull the handle and the rotor blades are blown off by an explosive; when they're clear the seat fires. I've heard rumors that the Comanche will have a similar feature, but there are always rumors about that kind of thing.

    I don't have a link, sorry.

    Is my Karma up to 50 yet? it's a slow day at work..

  2. Actually.... by DG · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't know if it has ever been done on a helicopter per sae, but there have been ejection seats that went out the _bottom_ of the aircraft.

    I think the F102 (or one of the other supersonic, large-single-vertical-fin fighters) had one of these.

    Just don't pull the handle during taxi. :)

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    1. Re:Actually.... by jonerik · · Score: 2, Interesting

      OTOH, the F111, which has (had?)

      Both, actually. The -111 is no longer in service with the USAF, but the Aussies still operate it.

      They are strong enough that you not only clear the tail fin, but you can eject on the runway and get high enough for the chute to open and land you gently.

      Alternatively, if you ejected over water the cockpit capsule would float and double as a survival pod. The B-1A had a similar ejection cockpit capsule - which apparently worked quite well when one of the four prototypes went down - but this feature was dispensed with for the B-1B.

  3. double edged sword by ThomasXSteel · · Score: 1, Interesting

    > in the current public mood, perfect for urban > combat and reconnaisance and surveying disaster > sites. Oh, and it's also good for aerial > photography. So it's also good for surveying targets, dropping chemical/biological/nerve agents, and photographing the results. Maybe /bin/laden guys will even hack it to email al jazeera with exclusive footage.

  4. How did they code this? by gartogg · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Much of the 12,000 lines of code necessary to fly the helicopter were written by Kara Sprague (M.Eng. 2002 in electrical engineering and computer science) and Alex Shterenberg (M.Eng. 2000 in electrical engineering and computer science).


    Now that would be a cool thing to hack!
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    1. Re:How did they code this? by tramm · · Score: 3, Interesting
      gartogg said:
      Now that would be a cool thing to hack!
      You can! Check out autopilot.sourceforge.net. We're building a GPLed helicopter autopilot stabilization system and can use help with coding, flying and other stuff.

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  5. getting into rc helis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I used to fly radio controlled helicopters, they can be had for alot less around $1000-$1500 with full aerobatic capability check out http://www.acehobby.com/products/helicopter/index. html
    the Raptor 30 is an excellent model to start with

  6. Requisite Open Source Tie-In by TheAlmightyQ · · Score: 1, Interesting

    And for all you open source nuts who want to tie in this story to the rest of /.
    Autopilot.SourceForge.Net

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  7. Free Software helicopter autopilot by tramm · · Score: 5, Interesting
    We're building a GPLed helicopter autopilot and stabilization system. It's built entirely with Free Software and all the designs are available under the GPL. There is a realtime sensor board that controls the servos and monitors the accelerometers and gyros. It also tracks engine stats and acts as an engine governor. The entire package fits on a standard model helicopter airframe.

    Unlike the academic projects, you can download our code and contribute!

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  8. Re:Making movies is not cheap by EnglishTim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are a lot of places in filmmaking where remote-control helicopters are useful.

    For instance, all the aerial shots in 'Walking with Beasts' were done with a RC Helicopter - it is substantially cheaper, especially if you need film somewhere remote.

  9. Combat? by europrobe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This thing seems way too small to fit some kind of weapon. For this to be useful in combat, it'd have to carry a machinegun or maybe a small rocket launcher. A machinegun with 1000 rounds would weigh, say, 15-20 kg, and the recoil would probably be too big for this chopper.

    The recoil of a rocket launcher, on the other hand, would be minimal. Problem is to aim the pod, since you can not adjust fire during firing in the same way - since you would carry only, say, 10 rockets. The aiming problem would mean you'd probably have to include hydraulics for tilting and rotating the pod, wich means more weight.

    'course, you could just pack the thing with 15 kgs of plastic explosive, fly it into a building full of your opponents of choice, and set it off.

    The Hellfire missile used on the Predator UAV, for example, weighs 45 kgs. Obviously, this is too much for this litte chopper.

    I wonder how this extra weight affects flight performance. Does anyone have any more info on this?

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  10. Will Hopefully Replace Traffic Copters by Schlemphfer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This looks like a great and low-cost way for radio stations to do away with sending reporters up in helicopters to cover traffic. Back in 1993 WNBC listeners throughout New York City were listening to one such broadcast and heard the copter crash, killing the reporter and pilot. Many other such crashes have occurred over the years. With luck, this MIT copter could make it obsolete to send traffic reporters in the air.

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  11. The Comanche rumour is BS, and other corrections by GMontag · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (Old US Army Aviator speaking here)

    Every effort at creating an ejection system for US rotary wing aircraft has been met with irristable resistance by the Aviators.

    One methid, firing the seat through the floor. That is fine if you are an airforce guy at FL 2 zillion, but for us the ground is about 10 to 50 feet below the aircraft when we are most likely to need an ejection seat.

    Second, not many of us like having explosives strapped around the rotor head at any time.

    Third, most of us are not all that confidant that the firing sequence would work every time, i.e., not trusting the explosives in the head to blow early enough for the blades to clear the path of the seat flying up through the plane of the rotor disk.

    One glairing item from this story:

    HELICOPTERS HAVE NO AILERONS! They might mean a "snap roll" or a 360 degree z axis roll, but there are no ailerons on a helicopter.

    This is nothing new anyway, any fully articulated rotor system OR rigid rotor system, with a powertrain posessing enough power, can safely do rolls, loops, etc. Don't try this at homw with your UH-1 or OH-58/Jetranger or Longranger, they have semi-rigid rotor systems that will break if you try to maneuver at less than .5G

  12. seen it all before... by irq · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Every Saturday I go out to Palomar Flyers's Johnson Field and fly my Kalt 30 Baron r/c helicopter. I'm still a newbie, but there are always plenty of people doing things there beyond even what this MIT bird is capable of, and I put a wireless video camera on mine, and it was pretty easy, so... whats so special about this mit thing? :)

  13. This is also being doing at Carnegie Mellon by paranoidia · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The main site is posted here. But basicly CMU is also doing this, and has gotten very far. It can track a person running around a field with a life-vest. It can also lower some object into a person's hand. This might seem easly, but this is still all autonomous. One of the big projects this is for is the Coast Guard wants these to quickly find and possibly help people in the oceans. Teams of these things can scan the ocean for people while the choper with people are just loading up. Check out the videos on the site, very cool stuff.

  14. How's this for irony: by Catbeller · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Al Queda could do the same thing to us from the comfort of an operator's La-Z-Boy.

    Careful what we wish for...