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Govt Says: Internet Is Popular

michaeld writes "The U.S. Dept of Commerce reports that more than half of the nation is now online. In September 2001, 143 million Americans (54% of population) were using the Internet -- an increase of 26 million in thirteen months. 2 million more go online each month. Between August 2000 and September 2001, residential use of high-speed, broadband service doubled--from about 4 to 11 percent of all individuals, and from 11 to 20 percent of Internet users. ZDNet has commentary as does Reuters, while the government has the Full report."

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  1. What they don't tell you... by ckd · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Internet isn't really that popular; someone at Microsoft just got confused about the subject of the poll, and sent out some email to the entire company claiming that the government was trying to measure the popularity of .NET.

  2. Hmmmmmm..... by MrBandersnatch · · Score: 5, Funny

    The U.S. Dept of Commerce reports that more than half of the nation is now online

    No wonder its so damn laggy today ;)

  3. 50%+, soon to be 100% by Ubergrendle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Conclusive proof that the internet is becoming all pervasive. It would also be nice, now, if the government could help facilitate future growth via funded expansion of shared infrastructure. Broadband access is apparently become less readily available and more costly, right at a time when demand for access is increasing. Just as there is a federal highway system, it would be nice to see a federally funded mega-sized inter-state backbone that would ensure bandwidth needs are met in future. The auto industry was the bellweather of the american economy for 50-75 years, but that industry was not responsible for funding the deployment of roads and highways. Similarly, software companies and internet services would greatly benefit from a shared, open infrastructure that ensures all Americans have access. Of course, I'm a Canadian so what do I know? ;)

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  4. Taking it to the next level... by PoiBoy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    54% of Americans are now online, and that's certainly a Good Thing(tm).

    A non-trivial proportion of those people get their internet access via 56k dial-up modems, and certainly their surfing experience would be vastly better with a broadband connection. In addition, 46% of Americans do not yet have access to the internet. While with most forms of technology, not everyone wants to get online, I'd wager that a fair portion of that 46% would like to learn how.

    I think there are several things that we as the richest nation on Earth should focus on going forward:

    1. Making internet access available to those in the remaining 46% who cannot afford but wish to have access. Perhaps a large campaign to recycle used computers and 56k modems and then donate them along with free monthly access to poor people would be a good start.

    2. Improve the broadband experience for those who have gone through it thus far. By this I mean a concerted effort to reduce the delays in getting DSL service and the fiascos related to the @home collapse.

    3. Make broadband live up to its claims. Currently, many if not most cable modem users suffer from network congestion and slower-than-advertised download speeds. For me personally, while still much faster than a modem, the frustration I have in the evening when things seem to move at a snail's pace make me yearn for a modem; at least then I can't complain about the service. Probably the best solution is a two-tiered pricing scheme in which light users pay a lower monthly fee but are guaranteed a speed of, say, 768kbps down and in which heavy users (say, over 2 gigs a month) pay a much higher fee. There is little doubt that a small proportion of broadband users slow down cable networks for everyone; and they should have to pay for their heavy usage.

    4. Do everything possible to support open standards on the internet. In other words, make web pages browser-agnostic. Avoid using proprietary services such as Microsoft's .NET offerings until the protocols are publicly known and other software vendors (or open source providers) have had a chance to develop products with a compatible feature set.

    5. Do not use Microsoft .doc and .xls formats as the basis for document interchange. Not everyone uses Microsoft products, and because of their proprietary nature other software packages cannot offer 100% portability. If a document does not need to be modified, use a PDF file; if it does, use RTF or some other standards-based document type that can be processed by other software. For spreadsheets, use a basic CSV format if it is sufficient or use WK1, which all spreadsheet packages can handle.

    Enough rambling. Time for breakfast.

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    1. Re:Taking it to the next level... by Sodium+Attack · · Score: 5, Interesting
      In addition, 46% of Americans do not yet have access to the internet.

      No, 46% of Americans do not use the internet. The report is about usage, not access.

      1. Making internet access available to those in the remaining 46% who cannot afford but wish to have access.

      I'd wager that a large portion of the 46% do have access to the internet, if they want it--many public libraries now offer free internet access for their patrons. For those who don't currently have access even at their local public libraries, the public library is an ideal place to get them access.

      Perhaps a large campaign to recycle used computers and 56k modems and then donate them along with free monthly access to poor people would be a good start.

      Donating them to public libraries which currently don't offer internet access would probably be a more efficient use.

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    2. Re:Taking it to the next level... by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      . In addition, 46% of Americans do not yet have access to the internet. While with most forms of technology, not everyone wants to get online, I'd wager that a fair portion of that 46% would like to learn how.

      Look at the report before making comments. On Page 89 of the report, of those who do not have internet at home, 53% of those them "Don't Want It". 25% claimed "Too Expensive". Which comes down to about 12.5% of the US cannot afford the internet in their homes- 25% do not want it. That's a surprise to me.

      Do not use Microsoft .doc and .xls formats as the basis for document interchange

      Like it or not, they are the defacto standards for files. Forcing the masses to change is not going to happen. If you can't open .DOC and .XLS, .PDF, then you're in a pretty distinct minority, one that's vocal but seen as a bunch of raving fanatics by the general public.

      Another point. Maybe you haven't looked at a default Windows installation, but users don't see file extensions. They only see "My Filename", not "My Filename.DOC". Telling them not to use .DOC files is futile because THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A .DOC FILE IS. Trying to get people to do a "Save As" and selecting "Rich Text Format" is so foreign to most Windows users it's never going to happen.

      Yes, push open source where we have openings. But don't beat your head against the wall concerning .DOC and .PDF files. Just accept that battle as lost and put your energies to fight on a different front.

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  5. Re:Connectivity as a basic right by mESSDan · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Maybe I shouldn't troll, but I consider this a silly idea. Internet is a basic right on the level of shelter and food? What about phones? Are they a basic right? No, not even close. What about television? Again, no. What you see on TV is for the most part only there because an advertiser paid a network exec for time. What about electricity? Basic right? No, I still get an electric bill every month, and they don't hesitate to turn it off if I miss a payment.

    The person who dubs the internet as any sort of "basic right" probably needs to go without for a few months just so you will find that yes, you can survive without internet access. The internet in no way affects your quality of life.

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  6. Re:Connectivity as a basic right by foo+fighter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would disagree with your stating the Internet doesn't affect my quality of life. I'm much better informed, more politically active, and make more money becuase of the Internet. I have new friends, and am able to better keep in touch with geographically distant friends and family. I have seen and read things online that I never would have been exposed to had it not been for the Internet.

    While it is not a basic right, it does affect the quality of life.

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  7. DEBUNKED - Al Gore "invented" Internet smear by Seth+Finkelstein · · Score: 4, Offtopic
    Sigh, maybe it's time to burn a karma point or two. This may be mistaken to be flamebait, but hopefully the references below will redeem it.

    The story that Al Gore claimed to have invented the Internet has been thoroughly debunked by Phil Agre in http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.Al.Gore. and.the.Inte.html and rebutted further later
    That meme was a creation of Declan McCullagh, a "reporter" for Wired News who is politically a dogmatic Libertarian so extreme that he managed to get a book chapter using him as a poster-boy for Libertarian ideologues, and a different book chapter using him as Libertarian joke-fodder.

    If you think this is flame-bait, the aspect of his fabricated story being a Liberatarian hit-piece on Al Gore was extensively discussed in a debunking by Salon

    After Declan McCullagh was repeatedly taken to task for his hatchet-job, over more than year, by everyone who was there, from Dave Farberto Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf, Declan finally grudgingly retracted the "story"

    But people still repeat it, because urban legends never die.

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  8. News by 3ryon · · Score: 5, Funny

    In related news, the Government also declared that the Sky is Blue, Bill Gates is Rich, and that Governments spend money on obvious surveys.