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FreeBSD GNOME Project Site Open For Business
Joe Marcus Clarke writes: "The FreeBSD GNOME project is proud to announce the opening of our
project site. This site
is devoted to the GNOME desktop and its development on FreeBSD." While the port is an ongoing project, quite a few applications are ready, as are instructions on putting GNOME on your FreeBSD box.
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Windows users happily use their machines.
Window managers? GNOME? KDE?
No, Windows just works for them.
I'm assuming that someone is porting the mono project to FreeBSD also. Should be interesting.
--- Think of it as evolution in action ---
So what was so difficult about (cd /usr/ports/gnome; make install),
anyway?
(jfb)
To spur "enterprise Linux," Big Bang, the distributed two-phase commit.
I will not be installing gnome bloatware^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcomponents on my workstation.
lets see if we can make a BSD story reach double digits in the number of posts!
(intended to be funny, not insulting)...
After reading the problems certain users have had with GNOME I welcome a FreeBSD/GNOME site. Many Linux users don't realise just how based on Linux a few core GNOME components really are.
One good example is the nautilus port. Not only did it take a long time to appear in the ports tree it still has a few problems (especially stability) on my FreeBSD-4.x systems.
I think this site will also benefit Linux users because patches will most probably flow back into GNOME and make it more portable for other systems and expand the user base of many important projects, i.e. nautilus, evolution, etc.
cheers
GNOME is an example of what happens when you try to clone Microsoft.
You get bloated, non-portable code.
It is now official - HighTimeshas confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently HighTimes confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest HighTimes survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [marijuana.org] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: Linux is for homosexuals,
and slashdot is for sickos
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
Recently, Slashdot confirmed that FreeBSD has been given away by WindRiver to FreeBSD Mall, for a carton of Winston's and a six-pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon. This only serves to confirm the fact that FreeBSD is unwanted, doomed to be passed around like a harelipped orphan from one foster parent to another.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is the weakest link. Good-bye.
See: this or this I'm not sure about the current status though.
The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shround over a once hopeful *BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.
Turkey Weeps Crocodile Tears
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by Dan Dostinic (8-3-00)
"Ankara urges UN to improve Kosovo Turks' rights." And therein lies a tale...
www.tenc.net
A July 31 Agence France Presse (AFP) report states that "Turkish Foreign Minister Ismail Cem urged Monday the head of the United Nations interim administration in Kosovo, Bernard Kouchner, to boost the rights of the Turkish community in the province." The article cites Huseyin Dirioz, a Turkish foreign ministry official.
Turkey's concern stems from the decision of some 60,000 Kosovo Turks to boycott municipal elections because the "UN mission did not issue registration forms in Turkish."
The article further states that "the Turks enjoyed cultural autonomy under Belgrade's rule and did not join the Albanian struggle for independence although the two communities have a common faith in Islam."
AFP does not explore the implications of the statement that the Turks, a minority in Serbia as are Albanians, "enjoyed cultural autonomy under Belgrade's rule" during the period (i.e., the 1990s) when Albanians were fighting for 'independence.'
Didn't Western leaders claim they had no choice but to bomb Yugoslavia to restore to ethnic Albanians the cultural autonomy they had been supposedly denied because the Serbian "rulers" loathed their Muslim faith? And wasn't the Muslim faith brought to - and in many case forced on - the Balkans by...the Turks?
Is something wrong with this picture?
If Serbian officials hate Muslims, why is it that ethnic Turks in Serbian Kosovo "enjoyed cultural autonomy under Belgrade's rule"? And why are the Turks complaining that now, under enlightened NATO rule, they can't even get the UN to print Turkish language election ballots?
Could it be that Belgrade was speaking the truth?
Could it be that Yugoslavia never took away ethnic Albanians' cultural autonomy, that is, judicial functions, schools, hospitals and mass media in the Albanian language? Could it be that in fact the Albanian secessionist movement organized a boycott of Albanian language institutions (such as schools) in order to score propaganda points with the West? [See footnote 2]
And consider Turkey. Turkey was a strategic participant in the 78 day bombing of Yugoslavia which President Clinton said was necessary in order to insure "respect for minority rights." (Clinton, 'New York Times,' Op-ed, May 23, 1999)
And now Turkey has 1,000 troops in Kosovo.
According to recent reports, ethnic Albanians are complaining about lawlessness in Kosovo [Footnote 1] Refugees are afraid to return, fearing attacks by Albanian extremists. A recent UN report described the UN-created Kosovo Protection Corps as engaging in:
"criminal activities - killings, ill-treatment/torture, illegal policing, abuse of authority, intimidation, breaches of political neutrality and hate speech." ( From The UN appoints an alleged war criminal in Kosovo, by Michel Chossudovsky, at
http://emperor.vwh.net/articles/chuss/unandthe.
Given these conditions, shouldn't there be a renewal of demands for inquiries in all capitals that took part in the bombing of Yugoslavia? The question to which we need an answer is: WHY?
The AFP article closes with the following: "Cem warned that Turkey could limit its contributions to Kosovo's security if the rights of the Turkish community were not rectified."
What "security" Mr. Cem?
Dan Dostinic is a Canadian antiwar activist.
I am into the copy and paste.
Russian Air Force Chief Says
Official 9-11 Story Impossible
[Posted 13 September 2001]
As one considers the terrible events of Sept. 11 and observes U.S. media reaction, so pervasive and consistently military that it appears choreographed, doubts increase. The following is from pravda.ru, a Russian language Website (politically centrist, nationalist). In some places the English translation is confusing, so we added alternate phrasing in brackets.
- Jared Israel
[Start report from Russia] "Generally it is impossible to carry out an act of terror on the scenario which was used in the USA yesterday." This was said by the commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force, Anatoli Kornukov. "We had such facts [i.e., events or incidents] too", - said the general straightforwardly. Kornukov did not specify what happened in Russia and when and to what extent it resembled the events in the US. He did not advise what was the end of air terrorists' attempts either.
But the fact the general said that means a lot. As it turns out the way the terrorists acted in America is not unique. The notification and control system for the air transport in Russia does not allow uncontrolled flights and leads to immediate reaction of the anti-missile defense, Kornukov said. "As soon as something like that happens here, I am reported about that right away and in a minute we are all up," - said the general. [End report from Russia.]
Pasted from: The Emperor's New Clothes
I am into the copy and paste.
I never thought I had people to look towards as guidance within my family when I was growing up. Being an inappreciative son who was, to put it bluntly, spoilt beyond all belief, it is a shame that upon leaving the wing of my parents, how much of their greatness did I realize I overlooked.
Growing up I never wanted to be straight-edged. I always wanted to bend the rules, get around them, make them work for me. Stringent upbringing at a catholic household coupled with strong Chinese tradition can be overbearing, especially when the parents were unwilling to bend their morales to please anyone.
I guess I inherited their stubbornness, and neither party was willing to concede. Still they supported me for the duration at college, until father could no longer tolerate the wastefulness of my ways. I ended up dropping out, thought I was good at IT, and could live without his monetary supply.
Well, I live without his monetary supplies, but just because I was a geek, an above average geek, didn't mean I was great one. Humility came hard, and my folks' reasoning over the course of my upbringing echoed throughout the last 2 years. Wonders what hindsight does to ones perspective.
Neither mom nor dad ever took 2nd place in their achievements, may it be academically, finicially nor moralistic. They were successful people in what they did, well known amongst their own professional community, and they never ever had to break a rule. They were upstanding citizens, they adhere to their morals and whilst they did once in awhile break a sweat whilst being prolific professionals and incredible parents, they succeeded admirably. I admire their resourcefulness, their intellectual capabilities and most of all I want to be as good a human being as they are. They succeeded in being outstanding parents, I was the one who was a tad 'late'.
Two years ago I left school and became a drifter. I had no means to afford the next meal. My father offered me one last opt out ticket. Come home, we'll make you work and give you guidance. I didn't take the ticket, I didn't take the compounding bribes bestowed on me from mother either. I stayed, reeled back to their teachings many years ago, and started to make sense of them. Their teachings had roots in other places, not all of it was original, but their explanations to me were never over wrought with detail. It was to the point, and in hindsight made perfect sense.
1. You don't have to break rules to win. Use them to your advantage, Play by them and hold your own. People respect you for it.
2. Never win for the sake of winning alone. You don't see grand masters venturing to coffee houses playing the worst players to satisfy their ego. You shouldn't have to do that to stroke yours either. Winning should take effort, cunning and intellect, otherwise the victory is worthless. (father taught me how to play chess and basketball)
3. There are free lunches, but it is rare. Always give back whenever you can.
4. Pissing off mom will end up getting back to dad. Never will father escape the sharp end of the stick. This goes for negotiating with any couple. Piss off the woman, and you won't get what you want.
5. There is a time and a place for everything. Pick the right time, the right place and the right approach. As quoted from the person who cited Dorothy Parker as one of his heros, getting away with something outrageous involves some sort of a masquerade as to hide the true nature of said action. Pick your masquerade carefully if you are going to escape the wrath of your audience, especially if you demand them to do something for you.
6. Never step on people unless you absolutely have to, and if you do, make sure they deserve it.
7. If you are to step on someone, make damn sure they can never ever ever hurt you back.
8. There are three things that are important in life, and they go in descending order of importance. These are Family, Integrity and money. They are often at conflict and seldom do you get all three in your favor. Always strive for the first and second ideals. Money alone is never a reason enough.
9. Nobody can do the job with as much thoroughness as you want them to do it. Try and do as much on your own.
10. Broaden the horizons of your knowledge base. You can't know too much about anything. Have fun learning and try to act as humble as possible in public.
11. If someone bothers to take the time to teach you something, listen carefully, pay attention, especially if they are good at it.
12. Never depend your success on someone elses' fuck-up.
13. Keep to your rules of conduct and stand by your own opinions. If you are right, people will see why, even if they won't admit it. If you are wrong, change your mind. Be flexible.
14. Never let people's praises cloud your judgment. Humility not only comes from your peers, but from your own envisionment of perfection. Strive to be as close to your idea of perfection as possible, enjoy getting there. The blood, sweat and toil are the most satisfying.
15. Do what makes you happy
The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSDre one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shround over a once hopeful *BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.
Since Steve Jobs decided to close source FreeBSD, I don't understand why anyone would carry on following its sorry demise. It seems to me that Linux is the only credible alternative?
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It doesn't seem to run under Linux ABI and there aren't any ports that work on FreeBSD?