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Retinal-Scanning Screen Prototypes

Troed writes: "Microvision demonstrated a prototype display that uses three leds and a mirror to display SVGA graphics from something small enough to be put into cellphones." Not a lot of technical details, but what's there looks good. It'll be a few years at best before the prototypes turn into real products, and I'm not quite sure I want to beta test this one, but I sure can't wait for when they are ready for prime time.

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  1. Am I the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    that read that and saw "Macrovision" instead of "Microvision?" For a minute, I thought I was going to have to submit to a retinal scan to watch fair use disabled tapes and DVDs!

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  2. Portable DVD, Yes; Portable Phone, No by TheMatt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Okay, I can see this as a new type of Glasstron like system for portable DVD players (has to be cheaper than the 8" LCD on current ones). But in no way should this be in a cell phone. I can barely walk and talk on one of those, but walk, talk, and view a movie, I'd hurt people. In a car, I'd be a moving traffic violation.

    One other question, what about those of us with glasses, can the system work around that, or will I have to start wearing a monocle like Mr. Peanut?

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  3. Brings to mind Diamond Age by Suicyco · · Score: 5, Funny


    Anyone remember the advertising in Diamond Age where images were broadcast directly into the eyes of passersby on the street? I can imagine this on a scale where these are placed in strategic locations in supermarkets, on the street, heck even the freeway. Scary, that you could have images directly placed onto your retina that are beyond your control (other then closing your eyes) Talk about mucking with reality, but then there's a whole new market for special sun glasses that reflect this kind of bombardment... Oakley Ad Blockers!

    1. Re:Brings to mind Diamond Age by Wire+Tap · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, one of the people mentioned (when Stephenson was going on about this technology) killed himself BECAUSE the ads were present even when he closed his eyes.

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  4. Re:Oooh, more health warnings. by Cruciform · · Score: 5, Funny

    Heh, maybe we need to put warning stickers on consumers as well. If the person fails a few basic tests, they get a sticker that says "Warning, this consumer is extremely stupid. Do not sell any sharp, hard, pointy, hot, cold or easily swallowed items to this individual."
    or maybe "Warning, this individual litigates over own stupidity. Symptoms include rash of complaints, with persistent ambulance chasers."

  5. Laser light / Normal light by Renraku · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Any kind of light ultimately damages the eye. Some types do more damage than others. Lasers, notorious for being high power and having the ability to easily blind people have gotten a bad rep. Low-power lasers do very little harm, probably less harm than a few minutes outdoors on a bright Winter day. I believe they are doing this now, or will be starting to, paint images on the retina directly using a laser for flight and other types of training.

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    1. Re:Laser light / Normal light by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 3, Informative

      > Any kind of light ultimately damages the eye.

      As far as I can tell, that's not actually correct. UV and the bluer light frequencies cause damage, but provided the intensity isn't too high the lower frequencies cause no known damage.

      In this case there is no reason the intensity would be sufficient to cause any damage.

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    2. Re:Laser light / Normal light by mesocyclone · · Score: 3, Funny

      Renraku emitted:

      Any kind of light ultimately damages the eye

      So what are we to do? Apparently we must keep our eyes tightly shut, from birth, except in complete darkness. Otherwise the light will damage them!
      Sigh!

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  6. YEAY, Another Microvision Press Release by technomancerX · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Microvision puts out a press release roughly once per year AND NEVER RELEASES ANY DAMN PRODUCTS. They've been working on making this technology work since ~1993 and still have nothing to show for it. It's vapor, move along.
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  7. Looks like glasses not a problem. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One other question, what about those of us with glasses, can the system work around that, or will I have to start wearing a monocle like Mr. Peanut?

    If the marketing sketches of the optic path accurately show the geometry of the system, you'd be able to see in focus without your glasses. (But your iris would have to be in the correct spot, i.e. you're looking in the right direction, or the image will disappear.)

    The focus issue occurs because the light from a given real-world "pixel" arrives as a wide, essentially colimated (rays essentially parallel) beam, and your lens has to focus the light hitting it all over its surface down to a point, or a very small patch, on the retina. If your lens is less than perfect or not currently adjusted correctly, light from one real-world pixel striking different parts of it arrive at different spots on the retina, rather than all at one spot, defocusing the image.

    Most displays illuminate the whole retina with a broad beam, allowing you to move your eye or head about and still see the image, but requiring your lens or lens-plus-glasses system to focus properly. This system MAY hit your eye with a narrow beam, which would reduce or eliminate the need for the lens to focus accurately.

    But it would also require your eye to be in exactly the right spot, within the size of your pupil as viewed through your eye's lens. Eye motion would make you lose the image. So I suspect the display actually spreads out the light on its way to your eye, and you'd still need the glasses.

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  8. What about deformed retinas? by Twister002 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most nearsightedness and farsightedness is caused by the eye, and consequently the retina, not being in the correct shape.The image is formed either too far ahead or behind the retina.

    I read the article but I didn't see any mention of how the beam would project on malformed retinas. If you are farsighted and you use this Microvision system, will the image appear to be deformed as well? Will it look like you are sitting too close to the movie theater screen?

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    1. Re:What about deformed retinas? by Jerf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Here's a thought; this sort of thing could replace current eye exam methodologies, or at least supplement them.

      Rather then asking a series of binary questions, "Is this... or this... better?", give the examinee some control over the process and do things like "Twist this knob until the line is in focus."

      Where this could become really useful is in the more exotically deformed eyes... 'normal' near-/far-sightedness is identified plenty well by current methodologies, but imagine someone with spherical distortion being able to fiddle with the knobs until they see things correctly, and letting the computer figure out what the settings are. Or perhaps "Make this line so it doesn't curve."

      One could theorectically do some of this with just a screen, but this technology might allow better control over precise focus and other similar precise controls that might make this significantly better then current practice.

      I'm not an optamologist, just a nerd rambling, so perhaps this is already being looked into.

  9. OLD Technology... by X86Daddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...well, when it comes to this arena anyway.

    MIT's 'borgs have been using prototype retinal scanning displays from various companies that have offered them for at least half a decade.

    Back around '97 I was really interested in wearables, but the availability of this type of display was always a problem, and all the suppliers that the MIT crew had listed no longer sold the devices (and they were only selling them as dev-kits anyway)

    Read up on MIT's "Lizzy." The most popular display back then was a single LED (red) scanning display, with 320x240 resolution, but it was the same exact technology.

  10. Re:Oooh, more health warnings. by Aexia · · Score: 3, Informative

    >>Not until someone actually DOES and sues the manufacturer for millions of dollars. Remember McDonalds and the lawsuit that required them to put "Warning! Coffee is extremely hot! Drink with caution!" on their coffee cups?

    Do you remember that the woman got third degree burns, needed skin grafts, spent a couple weeks in intensive care and offered to settle for ~$20K in hospital fees?

    Do you remember that McDonald's rebuffed that offer?

    Do you remember McDonald's having received hundreds of complaints in the past about the coffee temperature?

    Do you remember that after losing the trial, McDonald's lowered the coffee temperature to something consumable by human beings?

    Or do you only remember how the media characterized the case?