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Philips vs Unlicensed DVD Players

Kallahar writes "NewScientist is running an article about how Phillips, Sony, and Pioneer have "asked customs officials throughout Europe to seize players made by unlicensed factories." Philips, Sony and Pioneer have pooled many hundreds of patents covering all aspects of the DVD system. Philips administers the pool, grants licences and collects royalties, which are then shared three ways." This comes on the heals of philips going after copy protected CDs. The draw for these DVD players for consumers is probably both price, and the fact that they are often free of those pesky region encodings (especially nice for anime junkies)

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  1. anime is for losers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    please grow up people

  2. Just wait for the DVD Messiah mode chips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Then we will have sector free tenticle forever!

  3. Wonder when M$... by Arimus · · Score: 0, Troll

    Will decide to find some arguement that they've licenced the GUI (yes I mean GUI) and get customs to confiscate all other OSes that have any form of GUI..

    But seriously yet again the consumer is going lose.
    'branded players' -- more expensive but sometimes better quality...
    'unbranded' -- cheaper and sometime shoddy.

    Let the consumer decide - over time the shoddy players will become history, the cheap but good players will become brand names etc...

    Score: Big Corp's 1; public 0; little corps -1

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  4. They're trying to send a message by dfeldman · · Score: -1, Troll
    I know that defending the right of corporations to enforce intellectual property rights here is nearly suicidal, but I feel I must comment on this matter. Philips and friends lose literally millions of dollars a year to companies who make DVD players without licensing the patents behind the players. What's more, these players often have serious compatibility problems which cause headaches for users and content providers alike:
    • They don't run native code. Most DVD players support a modified version of the Z-80 instruction set which DVDs can use to render menus, omit scenes when a ratings limit is lowered, and handle substitution of audio without mis-synching actors' lips. These bootleg DVD players do not properly implement all of the instructions and may not work right with many DVDs.
    • Content protection. Macrovision is an unbreakable encryption system that keeps pirates from copying DVDs onto VHS tapes or video CDs. Many bootleg players do not implement it so we can expect the rate of piracy to skyrocket.
    • Compatibility with layers. Most bootleg DVD players have serious trouble handling two-layer discs, meaning that the users' experiences are affected in a very bad way.
    • Hackability. Most bootleg players run an embedded unix operating system, like linux, and can be tampered with easily by malcontents.
    It is for these reasons that we must all stand up and oppose the manufacture and sale of unlicensed DVD players.

    df

  5. Anime is crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The typical anime shows weirdos with giant eyes and green/purple/blue hair fighting monsters. That is so stupid!

  6. Goddammit! by Kasreyn · · Score: 1, Troll

    This infuriates me. I'm an anime fan and was intending to get my hands on a regionless player eventually so I'd not be stuck with only US dubbed and subbed releases. I'm currently struggling financially and I can't afford luxury items like DVD's and players, though. So it looks like by the time I do get around to affording them, regionless players will be a thing of the past (I can imagine a conversation with a future child: "Daddy, what was 'Fair Use'?"). None of my friends or family have been able to find regionless players either - one of them got one that was advertised as regionless and it was in fact region 1. Where the hell do you find them??

    -Kasreyn

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  7. Re:$28/player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    A fucking informative for idiot ramblings of crow?

    Why limit it to intellectual property ?
    Cause fucking Stallman says so ?

  8. Re:Okay, so what's the problem? by Carl · · Score: 1, Troll
    > Where's the incentive to create if it's legal to just steal the invention and pay nothing?

    You say steal but you seem to mean reuse.

    Look at the GNU project, the Apache project(s), the Linux kernel, the *BSDs, count the number of Debian packages, all the applications on Savannah, Sourceforce and Freshmeat. Look at all the great technologies created at Universities (which are often the basis of those "great" technologies, or cheap ripoffs if you like, that are sold in the industry).

    There are a lot of more incentives to create great technology then making lots of money of it. Focussing on how to make money on something often

    You might want to read Anarchism Triumphant by Eben Moglen who explains this a lot better then I can.

  9. Re:Memo to Customs Officers by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 1, Troll
    Police agents should inspire trust and safety in citizens, not fear.
    Well, if you're a nigger, that's not OUR problem.