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What if Harry Potter 5 Was an E-Book?
hakkikt sent a link to a highly speculative what if story on Harry Potter 5 as an E-Book.
The suggestions are pretty extreme- going so far as to saying that this
one book could change the fates of the publishing industry, book stores,
and could even make E-Books more then a pipe dream. Personally I'd
love to see it available digitally, but I still want a real hardcover
copy, and I can't imagine hundreds of thousands of kids staying up
late at night with laptops under their covers instead of the far more
traditional book & flashlight. Food for thought, but I can't really
take it seriously.
I could never have imagined ebooks being any good. But My friend said it was great, so I read "The Big U" on my m100. It was amazing. Sounds crazy, but it is easy to pick up/put down real fast since it holds your place automagically. Your arms/hands don't crap trying to hold it open in various contorted ways. Reading in the dark is really easy on your eyes (and spouse) with the backlight. I recommend everyone give it a try.
Something that wasn't (I think) clear from the
I think you'd find a vast amount of interest in hacking e-books, putting the documents online (or at least on a local hard drive), and then printing them out for distribution among one's fellow fifth-graders. Not everybody's mommy and daddy can afford to buy an electronic bookreader.
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
That's one of the first Slashdot topics in a while that's made me stop and say, 'wow.'
I might even buy one of those gizmos.
I have long hated the concept of e-books. They're expensive, they forgo all of the benefits of a book, a pile of e-book ram cards is nothing like a shelf full of paper books.
But I might buy one if that was the only way to get the next Harry Potter book, and I suspect that a lot of other people would, too. I'd hate having to do it, mind you, but it would be an amazingly cunning, effective way to get the readers into a broad range of people's hands.
God, I hope it doesn't happen, but "wow," nonetheless.
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Battery power is no longer an issue, flat screens are cheap, displays come even close to the contrast and resolution of ink on paper, and content producers get comfortable with the truth that they can never prevent all copying. When that all happens, this may be possible...
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I'm involved with eBook standards development (check out www.openebook.org), and I'm not very optimistic about the future of eBooks as they stand. There is really no standardization in terms of reading devices, and no real consumer market for an eBook. What's going to make eBooks run is added-value, not great content - if the Harry Potter eBook contained video, sound, games, etc., THEN I'd be looking to buy an eBook. My guess is that for eBooks to exist mainly as books, their future is going to be in academia and reference - things that really can be better with a searchable interface, or other technological enhancements. Current fiction, unless given some sort of sensory enhancement, won't cut it in the eBook world.
"What we have here, is a failure to communicate." - Cool Hand Luke
Then I guess we could expect a lot more little kids running around in glasses, eh?
E-books are great! You can usually search for a phrase!
Well, you can copy and paste long sections! Well... usually not, when I come to think about it.
Hey, I know, you can print out a couple chapters to read at leisure! Oh wait, you can't do that very often either.
At least you can copy them onto your PDA and read at will... can't you? No? Oh.
While I don't particularly regret the decision, I have noticed that there is definitly a considerable amount of eystrain associated with staring at a screen for a few hours at a time, even on a LCD. It really is easier to read stuff on paper, and I actually think I comprehend stuff better when it is less stressful.
Also, you could make the point about just printing out ebooks....but unless you have access to cheap/free printing, that kinda negates the purpose.
While I thing etexts/ebooks are cool, I would choose a real book over an ebook anyday.
For me, Harry Potter 1 was an e-book.
Sure, it was a pirate copy and full of OCR introduced typos, but I sure as hell wasn't going to go spend my money on a kid's book, despite the hype.
I figured, what the hell. Let's see what's so interesting.
Much to my surprise, I was blown away. Harry Potter was a morality play couched in terms of a fantasy novel. There were some rough moments... like at the end where the bad guy gives away the plot.
(Rowling's writing has improved since)
Still, I was fascinated. I downloaded the second and the third, quickly reading through them and finding scathing comments about the classism, the futility of punitive imprisonment, and the state of charity in the world.
When I went to look for the fourth book, it was not available. Instead, I went to Barnes and Noble that evening and paid 21.95 for the big hardbound copy of 'HP and the Goblet of Fire'. Since, I've put down money for all 3 of the others as well.
If Harry Potter 5 is an e-book, neither Rowling nor her publisher should fear piracy. The people who would have bought the book will buy it anyway, and the electronic copies floating around will inspire a few more to buy it as well.
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LOL. I know exactly what would happen if Harry Potter would be released as an e-book: it would shrivel and die.
It would not be considered the legitimate sequel.
It would be the dreaded asterisk, as in: "Harry Potter has spawned 5* sequels" Then: "* Including one 'electronic' version of Potter's adventures."
There is nothing compelling about e-books. Nothing. As someone who has 1500+ books in my house -- everything from Faulker to Stephen Levy -- I can categorically state that the e-book is now, and forever will remain, a bastard child.
There's a reason "books" have survived for over 500 years. They're almost perfect: portable, lightweight, cheap. Easy to buy, easy to trade, easy to sell.
Indie bookstores will not shrivel up and die if Harry Potter 5 is released electronically. They'll just keep selling what they're selling, keep doing what they're doing.
Much as some folks would like to think it, Harry Potter is not the be-all and end-all of literature. The article seems to forget that books have a 500 year history. Rowling is today's top-selling author (or whatever she's considered) but she's not *tomorrow's top-selling author.* There will be plenty more J.K. Rowling's over the next decade or so.
And I think that's fine. More power to 'em.
BTW, can anyone actually imagine reading Proust as an e-book? I mean, maybe it's just me, but I find e-books incredibly difficult to read for sustained periods of time. It's not unusual for me to spend 8, 10, sometimes 12 hours reading a book cover-to-cover. It's hard enough to do with a "real" book (I can't believe I'm writing that -- a "real" book -- LOL) but can you do that with an e-book? Do you even *want* to that with an e-book? And imagine forcing yourself to read an large, long e-book for a class -- by an author you don't care for but that you're forced to read.
Faulkner as an e-book? Can you imagine it?
Hemingway, maybe. But Faulkner? Melville? It would drive one batty.
Anyway, this article is nonsense. No, that's not me spouting flame-bait, it's me just giving an opinion.
J.K. Rowling may be popular, but -- please -- she's in no position to "kill" the book. Or drive booksellers out of business.
ROTLMAO.
I'm only half kidding here. Maybe it's too soon for the next Harry Potter to go Ebook only but I'd wager that maybe releasing the next one this way might not sound so funny.
And they maybe could add some region encoding so that people couldn't read a book in England that was meant for sale to Americans.
In my day we had music disks made of Polyvinyl Chloride. And I didn't hear anyone complaining. And if you scratched one too bad. And you couldn't play them in your car either.
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I see your point, but I think your undervaluing the real reason she enjoys it, You.
I bet if you had a decent eBook reader, smeing handheld, she would still unjoy it. Clearly she has related closing the book with going to sleep, but you could accomplish the same thing with a cover.
Plus, you could change the font type and size, and definitions, add personalization, all kinds of stuff that would make it easier to readit on her own. Depending on age, obviously.
The key is in the reader. When I read to my son(4), He prefers to have me lie down next to him, and we both look up at the book while I read.
finnally, congratulation on taking the time to read to your children. we all benefit from that.
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I can't imagine how anyone in their right mind would want to read an E-book.
.. I spend 8-9 hours at work in front of a moniter, and another 2-3 at LEAST at home. [be it contract work or Counter Strike]
.. is for about an hour before I go to sleep, I read. I read .. and I read like the wind .. [120 pages an hour EASY .. sometimes up to 300]
.. will never replace a simple $6.99 paperback.
.. an e-book reader runs about $269.00 when i last checked [a pal bought one]. Assuming that E-books were either warez or free .. I would have to read about 40 books to make that cheaper than buying paperbacks. [about 2-3 months .. i read over 120 books a year easy].
.. if i know they destroy books, its cheap enough to buy them their own copy.] Unless my pal's family all have e-readers, thats pretty hard to do with a digital book.
.. but not for long .. there is still the classic charm of a physical book to consider.
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I consider this *RESTING* my eyes after a day of irradiating them. E-books, not matter how much the geeky quirky appeal they have to me
First off
For me that give it a chance at being a $$ savings (if we forget about the pleasure of holding a book), but what about my fieance` who reads like 5 books a year ? would never be worth it!
The other big selling point of a normal book, is i can give it to someone else. [or
e-paper would make me doubt my stance
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Recently I saw a review of Xerox working on electronic paper. Yes, it's been around for a few years and will still take a few more to be useable. The demo was for signage in a clothing store. Each 6"x9" piece would be "updated" via a wireless connection from a handheld device. The text on the paper instantly changed to a new price. Pretty good stuff all around.
So what does this have to do with Harry Potter and eBooks. I don't see eBooks surviving for the plain reason that I'm not going to sit at my desk, lug around a lap top or even squint at a palm top to read a book. Not only that but the storage involved for a full book isn't small potatoes on my 2mb Palm. Keeping around 100 novels that I could read at will isn't going to happen.
However, with some more advances in the technology I do see electronic paper as a substitue. By downloading the electronic book from Amazon.com then sending it to my electronic paper, I can now read it like it's a real book. The advantage is that a) it's lighter because it can be a single sheet that just flips between pages b) it can have some features like remembering where I left off or giving me a summary of the book to jump around in and c) it's cheap (or should be by the time the technology gets there) and I can carry it around and even buy a book at a real bookstore, except that they'll just beam a copy of Harry Potter X to my electronic paper instead of getting a disk or paper copy.
I still don't think this will ever replace the traditional kill-a-tree approach to publishing, but it might be more acceptable than a traditonal ebook.
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I read Tolstoy's Anna Karenina on my Palm V. The biggest problem there was that the entire book did not fit on my palm, so I had to install part 1, read it, then install part 2. The second problem was I was constantly flipping back trying to remember who this character was, which wasn't at all easy. Actually, it was a royal pain and almost turned me off ebooks.
But then I gave it another shot, reading Twain's Huck Finn. Much better.
I agree with the original post- give it a try, it's enjoyable. But don't pick Les Miserables as your first ebook. Pick something shorter and lighter that doesn't require a lot of backpaging to figure out what's going on.
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www.baen.com has a bunch. You can get the titles BEFORE they hit the shelves. They come in several formats including plain HTML, and I own over 40 titles.
I love these people. I am horribly biased. They give me access to great books in many different convenient formats, and they trust me to be reasonable in what I do with them. No draconian anti-piracy crap.
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I read the first four Harry Potter books on my palmtop. I bought the originals in hardcover, and found myself downloading them in illicit ebook format anyway. Why? Becaus the books were huge and wouldn't stay open when placed atop the elliptical climber, which is the best place to get some good reading done (whilst ignoring the burn). The palmtop is bright, has adjustable fonts for when my glasses get too fogged with sweat to read, and easily switches between books (i was reading "Hills of Killimanjaro" in parellel at one point).
Being able to grab the new potter book on ebook would just legalise the sort of content repurposing i'm doing already. And I'd probably still buy the hardcover for the wife and others who don't dig the digital.
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The media middlemen, such as publishing firms, want to keep themselves firmly entrenched in a world where their middleman position is becoming less useful to the consumer. They're doing a good job of it so far. The technique they are using is to use patent and copyright to control not just the content, but the way in which you are allowed to view it. But they've got to give those of us who give a damn about fair use a reason to ignore our convictions and accept the middleman's control.
The way they seem to be doing it is to force their control over all new forms of technology, thus leaving those who care about fair use with the awful choice of "stay obsolete, or accept our control - your choice". E-books and DVDs are both doing this. Since the new technology is also the restrictive technology, when people start adapting the new technology because it's really cool and neat, they end up giving up their control unwittingly. Eventually the old technology stops being supported. Movies start being available ONLY on DVD and not on tape anymore. Books start being available ONLY on E-book and not on paper anymore. Soon even those who are willing to stick with old technology to avoid the hedgemony don't even have that option anymore. The choice becomes one of "accept the hedgemony, or totally forego every work of culture and entertainment being put out and stay out of the loop."
This sucks. What do I do about the upcoming 4-hour director's cut of Fellowship of the Ring on DVD? I want very much to have it, and I don't mind one bit giving the money in the form or royalyties to those who created it, and to New Line studio for having the guts to put their necks out on the line financing it. But how do I do this without simultaneously supporting their part in the engineered the DeCSS slander, er, I mean "trial"?
And that's just the way they want it. They want to make sure that I cannot seperate the two. And thus, an obsolete system of middlemen who aren't needed anymore in today's economy get job security by forcing me to pick between giving up on fair use, versus giving up on participation in modern culture.
And of course, as a side effect of this, open source software *also* has to give up on participation in modern culture, and I think that's what irks me the most, actually. I don't think the media execs are really interested one way or another in open source. But they are interested in preserving the hedgemony through content control, and as a side effect that ends up meaning there can't be open source methods to access the content they put out.
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You are really not doing any good with that attitude. What do you think all the monks said after Gutenberg invented the printing press? I'd imagine it was something like, "Oh, those ugly little books are so shoddy, and they're downright illegible." I don't count my books, but I've got enough already to keep me busy until the day I die. OTOH, I really like e-books. Your disdain might lie in your aesthetics. Because while e-books as objects aren't compelling (they are virtual and intangible), the format works well. After initially being put off by the idea, I've found that I'm a much more efficient reader of an e-book than of the bound version. HTML kicks ass for presenting content. I can read then entire book as one page if I want, and a hyperlinked index is better than anything a printed book can offer.
This works amazingly well with laberinthian computer books. I zoomed through the 900+ page JavaScript Rhino book, whereas the sheer density of the bound version put me off. Granted, that's not pleasure reading, and it is more than a convenience having a browser available while reading about JavaScript. Still, I have read several literary classics on my Palm (Frankenstein, some Mark Twain stuff). Have you even looked at Project Gutenberg? Why, there are six entries for Proust. Can you still not imagine it? I downloaded the complete works of Mark Twain (702K!!! ~25MB unzipped!!). I discovered a lot of material I had never heard of before (Hilarious stuff like "Fennimore Cooper's Literary Offenses"), and I have two huge sets (25+ volumes) of Twain's work! So you do disservice both to literature and the WWW with your comment.
Here's the problem: non-indexed PDF and PostScript e-books. This is so not the way to go. These are far inferior to printed books. Some of the e-books I have are PDFs pirated from the publishing industry, before the books had even been properly edited. Also, a fucking text file is a more flexible version than PDF and PS. Then again, I use xpdf and gv, which may lack some 'Find' feature that Adobe or other viewers might have. But I really love Safari. I just wish you could download them, and that they wouldn't try to pad their selections with multiple editions of the same book, outdated books, other crap, etc.
Also, why would Hemingway work & not Faulkner or Melville? It took me months to read Moby Dick, and it sucked to keep having to return it to the library and check it out again. Melville would love the Web, with all of his little digressions.
Noone in their right mind would think that E-books have any chance of displacing regular books in the forseeable future. They have very little charm and are very expensive, especially in the sense that you need several expensive units to let the whole family read a book each at the same time.
In addition, books are a very well established symbol of status. People love to have lots of books in their shelfs so they can give the impression that they are well-read people. How can E-books ever fill up your bookshelves?
What CAN be argued is that E-books might become a success in the way that it becomes a reasonable supplement to regular books. I can see this. Instead of bringing several heavy books with you on a trip, you can just bring one reasonable unit.
The books will still have to be considerably cheaper in electronic form, and not just a way to make more money, as the music companies seem to think about downloadable music.
It's called college. And yes I only want knowledge clustered around the wealthy. They tend to vote republican and I intend to run for public office some day. I want the rest of the country to be dumb as a bucket of wet hammers. It makes it easier for the TV to tell them to vote for me.
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