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on from the it's-water-helen-water dept.
davster writes "I was just checking out the Linux 2.5changeset and noticed that Linus has just merged ALSA into his tree. Its about time."CD: Looks like Jaroslav Kysela did the merge work, but Linus obviously allowed it to happen. I'm a happy Alsa user so this looks like a good thing.
Meehsa like
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ALSA veery useful, meehsa thinksa
Re:linux sucks
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u suck !
oh yeaaa
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god i just splooged everywhere
Re:linux sucks
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Win2k rules just don't measure up.
Think about it for a moment.
It's about time.
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Nuf said.
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LINUX QUESTION
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Re:LINUX QUESTION
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Maybe off topic, but damn funny.
what is alsa?
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seriously, this is not a troll, but what the hell is ALSA? Why can't editors simply say "ALSA is an xyz widget that does zyx's" at the bottom of the story?
Re:Drain You
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Second best Nirvana song (Lithium is number one).
Now both songs will sound even better with ALSA.
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In a remarkable feat of journalistic sleight-of-hand, thousands of column inches in many "reputable" on-line publications have talked at length about.NET whilst remaining largely ignorant of its nature, purpose, and implementation. Ask what.NET is, and you'll receive a wide range of answers, few of them accurate, all of them conflicting. Confusion amongst the press is rampant.
The more common claims made of.NET are that it's a Java rip-off, or that it's subscription software. The truth is somewhat different. Before talking about these claims, first the important question needs to be answered:
What is.NET?
.NET is a "software platform". It's a language-neutral environment for writing programs that can easily and securely interoperate. Rather than targetting a particular hardware/OS combination, programs will instead target ".NET", and will run wherever.NET is implemented.
.NET is also the collective name given to various bits of software built upon the.NET platform. These will be both products (Visual Studio.NET and Windows.NET Server, for instance) and services (like Passport, HailStorm, and so on).
The components that make up.NET-the-platform are collectively called the.NET Framework.
This article will concentrate on the.NET Framework; a follow-up will tackle.NET-the-software. Also within this article will be discussion of the standardization process happening in parallel, and a discussion of the differences between.NET and its major rival, J2EE.
The.NET Framework
The.NET Framework has two main parts:
The Common Language Runtime (CLR).
A hierarchical set of class libraries
The CLR is described as the "execution engine" of.NET. It provides the environment within which programs run. The most important features are:
Conversion from a low-level assembler-style language, called Intermediate Language (IL), into code native to the platform being executed on.
Memory management, notably including garbage collection.
Checking and enforcing security restrictions on the running code.
Loading and executing programs, with version control and other such features.
Before talking in more detail about these, a few bits of terminology need to be clarified.
Managed Code
"Managed Code" is code that targets.NET, and which contains certain extra information -- "metadata" -- to describe itself. Whilst both managed and unmanaged code can run in the runtime, only managed code contains the information that allows the runtime to guarantee, for instance, safe execution and interoperability.
Managed Data
With Managed Code comes Managed Data. CLR provides memory allocation and deallocation facilities, and garbage collection. Some.NET languages use Managed Data by default -- C#, Visual Basic.NET, JScript.NET -- whereas others -- C++ -- do not. Targetting CLR can, depending on the language you're using, impose certain constraints on the features available; for instance, C++ loses multiple inheritance. As with managed and unmanaged code, one can have both managed and unmanaged data in.NET applications -- data that doesn't get garbage collected but instead is looked after by unmanaged code.
Common Type System
The CLR uses something called the Common Type System (CTS) to strictly enforce type-safety. This ensures that all classes are compatible with each other, by describing types in a common way. CTS defines how types work within the runtime (their declaration and usage), which enables types in one language to interoperate with types in another language, including cross-language exception handling. As well as ensuring that types are only used in appropriate ways, the runtime also ensures that code doesn't attempt to access memory that hasn't been allocated to it (that is to say, the code is type-safe).
Assemblies
.NET programs are constructed from "Assemblies". An Assembly is a compiled and versioned collection of code and metadata that forms an atomic functional unit. All Assemblies contain a Manifest, which contains the Assembly name, version, and locale, has a list of files that form the Assembly, what dependencies the Assembly has, and what features are exported by the Assembly.
When you target.NET with your compiler, what gets generated isn't native code. Instead, it's a small PE wrapper around three blocks of data. PE (Portable Executable) is the binary format used to contain Win32 programs.
PE files contain a stub MS DOS program (if you've ever tried to run a Win32 executable from DOS and seen the "This program requires Microsoft Windows" message, you've seen that stub in action)..NET binaries will then contain a Win32 stub -- to either use.NET to run the actual program, or to say something like, "This program requires.NET to run" if it isn't available.
The first block of data within the PE wrapper is the IL itself. IL looks approximately like assembler. This is the bit that actually gets compiled and executed.
The second is called the metadata. This describes the contents of the file -- for instance, what methods it provides, what parameters they take, and what they return.
The third is the manifest. This describes what other components the executable needs in order to run. It also contains public keys of external components, so that the CLR can ensure that the external component is the one that the executable thinks it is.
When running the executable, the CLR uses Just-In-Time compilation. As each method within the executable gets called, it gets compiled to native code; subsequent calls to the same method don't have to undergo the same compilation, so the overhead is only incurred once.
JIT compilation raises some issues. One is that it demands resources -- memory and processor particularly. To solve this, MS have two JIT compilers: a normal one, that optimizes compiled code fairly well, but can be processor and/or memory intensive; and an "EconoJIT". EconoJIT might not optimize the code as well, but it'll require less memory and processor time to run. It will also allow your running program to discard the compiled form of a method, thereby freeing up memory, at the expense of having to compile it again. A third kind of compiler has been hinted at (though hasn't made it into the version 1 release), called the "OptJIT". It will work a little differently; it will use a subset of IL (OptIL) with additional information to suggest to the OptJIT compiler how to generate its output; there may also be greater optimization of the IL. The idea is to reduce the overhead due to the JIT compilation without sacrificing the quality of the emitted machine code.
Actually
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XP rulez, 2k is for losers without kazaa. Corpfiles baby!
KDE myths
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Some KDE Myths.
KDE Myth: Koffice owns, Kspread, Kword..they own, Gnome-office sucks.
Truth:
o Gnumeric has made some huge steps in the last 6 months, with the
semi-intergration of Guppi (graphing)...its a very stable Spreadsheet
application, offers many features that kspread dreams of. More Functions,
more file filters,.. Kspread is more like a budget/cutdown version of
Gnumeric.
To put it blutantly KDE toolbars and general gui design are/have always
been a mess.
o Abiword also offers similar benefits of Gnumeric (features and File
Filters) hey does Kword have a good import/exprt RTF?! alpha-quality? wtf?
How long has Kword been in-existence? and they still cant properly render
RTF still? Even the list of known filters (export and import) available
looks very sad. http://www.koffice.org/filters/status.phtml
Considering Abiword is also being developed for many other platforms, its
done pretty well so far. Can you say WYSIWYG?
o Kivio doesnt offer everything you would want, and if you want specific
stencils, you have to fork out for them...Is this where FreeSoftware is
going? We get cutdown versions of a product,... DIA isnt bound to a
company hard bent in making a profit. So when DIA starts employing some of
these Stencils, what happens then? you spent $$$ for nothing?
http://www.thekompany.com/products/kivio/stencil s. php3
KDE Myth: Konq ownz mozilla, netscape etc...
Truth: Mozilla is truely more standards complient, as of late 0.9.4+
series, The Mozilla engine is really starting to shine now, Konq has
always had a hard time rendering any DHTML/Javascript, even with some
webpages the fonts are screwed.
Mozilla isnt Perfect, but hey, everything renders properly. Konq trys to
hard to be "Internet Explorer" on the linux desktop, Its time to
completely drop the KHTML shit, If theres a better, more mature
engine...use it. KHTML was once needed, now its not.. And if you want to
Compare Gnome Galeon,..I dare you.
Nautalus was once critised as being a slow, dog, rah rah.. well it was,
yeah it was slow,...but it has improved, but it seems kde users still like
to think that. Well if it makes you happy. Nautalus is very themeable
http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/ximian-so ut h-metatheme.jpeg Its a
welcome change away from the Windows File Manager look.
KDE Myth: GTK+ is just damn ugly
So you havent tried the abundance of GTK+ themes? cleanice? eazel?
thinice? pixmap?
Yeah, Gtk themes that have been around longer than kde2... and with the
upcoming release of GTK2, themes are getting better and faster. Themes
under KDE just dont look "pretty". Even Gnome icons are better. So
customising Gnome to look differently isnt that hard..however KDE just
looks like that, Mosfet just looks tacky.
KDE Myth: We have all the cool appz. QT/KDE rulesss!
Oh really? So lets now count Evolution, GIMP, Red Carpet, Xchat, XMMS,
Galeon, Balsa, Gnumeric, Pan, Abiword, mplayer, Glade, Anjuta...Gnome/GTK
has plently of cool apps.
KDE Myth: Gnome is loosing, its dead, just use KDE.
Well considering most new distros have KDE preinstalled as default, ie,
Mandrake, Lindows, Caldera, Corel, Suse..and some other I missed out, its not
surprising Gnome is losing *some* support, But with Ximian and Redhat
Gnome/GTK will keep on living. QT is hardly community developed, GTK+ has always been community developed...and thus we as the linux community we _should_ support it.
Re:KDE myths
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Some KDE Myths.,
KDE Myth: Koffice owns, Kspread, Kword..they own, Gnome-office sucks.
Truth:
o Gnumeric has made some huge steps in the last 6 months, with the
semi-intergration of Guppi (graphing)...its a very stable Spreadsheet
application, offers many features that kspread dreams of. More Functions,
more file filters,.. Kspread is more like a budget/cutdown version of
Gnumeric.
To put it blutantly KDE toolbars and general gui design are/have always
been a mess.
o Abiword also offers similar benefits of Gnumeric (features and File
Filters) hey does Kword have a good import/exprt RTF?! alpha-quality? wtf?
How long has Kword been in-existence? and they still cant properly render
RTF still? Even the list of known filters (export and import) available
looks very sad. http://www.koffice.org/filters/status.phtml
Considering Abiword is also being developed for many other platforms, its
done pretty well so far. Can you say WYSIWYG?
o Kivio doesnt offer everything you would want, and if you want specific
stencils, you have to fork out for them...Is this where FreeSoftware is
going? We get cutdown versions of a product,... DIA isnt bound to a
company hard bent in making a profit. So when DIA starts employing some of
these Stencils, what happens then? you spent $$$ for nothing?
http://www.thekompany.com/products/kivio/stencil s. php3
KDE Myth: Konq ownz mozilla, netscape etc...
Truth: Mozilla is truely more standards complient, as of late 0.9.4+
series, The Mozilla engine is really starting to shine now, Konq has
always had a hard time rendering any DHTML/Javascript, even with some
webpages the fonts are screwed.
Mozilla isnt Perfect, but hey, everything renders properly. Konq trys to
hard to be "Internet Explorer" on the linux desktop, Its time to
completely drop the KHTML shit, If theres a better, more mature
engine...use it. KHTML was once needed, now its not.. And if you want to
Compare Gnome Galeon,..I dare you.
Nautalus was once critised as being a slow, dog, rah rah.. well it was,
yeah it was slow,...but it has improved, but it seems kde users still like
to think that. Well if it makes you happy. Nautalus is very themeable
http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/ximian-so ut h-metatheme.jpeg Its a
welcome change away from the Windows File Manager look.
KDE Myth: GTK+ is just damn ugly
So you havent tried the abundance of GTK+ themes? cleanice? eazel?
thinice? pixmap?
Yeah, Gtk themes that have been around longer than kde2... and with the
upcoming release of GTK2, themes are getting better and faster. Themes
under KDE just dont look "pretty". Even Gnome icons are better. So
customising Gnome to look differently isnt that hard..however KDE just
looks like that, Mosfet just looks tacky.
KDE Myth: We have all the cool appz. QT/KDE rulesss!
Oh really? So lets now count Evolution, GIMP, Red Carpet, Xchat, XMMS,
Galeon, Balsa, Gnumeric, Pan, Abiword, mplayer, Glade, Anjuta...Gnome/GTK
has plently of cool apps.
KDE Myth: Gnome is loosing, its dead, just use KDE.
Well considering most new distros have KDE preinstalled as default, ie,
Mandrake, Lindows, Caldera, Corel, Suse..and some other I missed out, its not
surprising Gnome is losing *some* support, But with Ximian and Redhat
Gnome/GTK will keep on living. QT is hardly community developed, GTK+ has always been community developed...and thus we as the linux community we _should_ support it.
Re:Drain You
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Nivarna sucks balls. If I sucked as bad as Kurt Nobrain I'd eat a shottie, too.
i am gay and horny, plaese excite mee!
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Please prost your homosexuel fantasyies and storyies so i may mastrbate to them. My close male freind has gone on a business tripp and i am feeling loneley toonight. Thank you.
-Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda
Re:Linus Torvalds Merges Self with Tree!!
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Good job you did there. One of the few times I laugh out loud.
WOW! Who the fuck cares!
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nt.
Hardly
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Re:0.5?
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That only applies to Microsoft software.
Re:0.5?
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And that, dear friends, is why I use NT 5
RX/Saturno?
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Yeah, let us know when it gets past version 0.0.1
Karma Suicide!
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Forst Pist Captin? EH MATE!
ALSA veery useful, meehsa thinksa
u suck !
god i just splooged everywhere
Win2k rules just don't measure up.
Think about it for a moment.
Nuf said.
You can't legislate goodness. Let each to his own destiny, by will of his freely made choices.
WLD LK T SK LNS QSTN
DR LNS MY NM S JNS HLL
CNGRTLTNS N YR LNX 2.5
KRNL. M CMMDR 64 WNR
ND M CRS F YR NXT KRNL
WLL B SPPRTNG MY CMMDR
PLTFRM BCS LK T WTCH
MVS THT DWNLD FF TH
NTRNT NTWRK ND MNY PPL
SY THT YR LNX KRNL CN
WTCH VRY GD MVS. THNK Y
LNS.
YR FRND,
 JNS.
seriously, this is not a troll, but what the hell is ALSA? Why can't editors simply say "ALSA is an xyz widget that does zyx's" at the bottom of the story?
Second best Nirvana song (Lithium is number one).
Now both songs will sound even better with ALSA.
Hail to the king, baby!
In a remarkable feat of journalistic sleight-of-hand, thousands of column inches in many "reputable" on-line publications have talked at length about .NET whilst remaining largely ignorant of its nature, purpose, and implementation. Ask what .NET is, and you'll receive a wide range of answers, few of them accurate, all of them conflicting. Confusion amongst the press is rampant.
.NET are that it's a Java rip-off, or that it's subscription software. The truth is somewhat different. Before talking about these claims, first the important question needs to be answered:
.NET?
.NET is implemented.
.NET platform. These will be both products (Visual Studio.NET and Windows.NET Server, for instance) and services (like Passport, HailStorm, and so on).
.NET-the-platform are collectively called the .NET Framework.
.NET Framework; a follow-up will tackle .NET-the-software. Also within this article will be discussion of the standardization process happening in parallel, and a discussion of the differences between .NET and its major rival, J2EE.
.NET Framework
.NET Framework has two main parts:
.NET. It provides the environment within which programs run. The most important features are:
.NET, and which contains certain extra information -- "metadata" -- to describe itself. Whilst both managed and unmanaged code can run in the runtime, only managed code contains the information that allows the runtime to guarantee, for instance, safe execution and interoperability.
.NET languages use Managed Data by default -- C#, Visual Basic.NET, JScript.NET -- whereas others -- C++ -- do not. Targetting CLR can, depending on the language you're using, impose certain constraints on the features available; for instance, C++ loses multiple inheritance. As with managed and unmanaged code, one can have both managed and unmanaged data in .NET applications -- data that doesn't get garbage collected but instead is looked after by unmanaged code.
.NET with your compiler, what gets generated isn't native code. Instead, it's a small PE wrapper around three blocks of data. PE (Portable Executable) is the binary format used to contain Win32 programs.
.NET binaries will then contain a Win32 stub -- to either use .NET to run the actual program, or to say something like, "This program requires .NET to run" if it isn't available.
The more common claims made of
What is
.NET is a "software platform". It's a language-neutral environment for writing programs that can easily and securely interoperate. Rather than targetting a particular hardware/OS combination, programs will instead target ".NET", and will run wherever
.NET is also the collective name given to various bits of software built upon the
The components that make up
This article will concentrate on the
The
The
The Common Language Runtime (CLR).
A hierarchical set of class libraries
The CLR is described as the "execution engine" of
Conversion from a low-level assembler-style language, called Intermediate Language (IL), into code native to the platform being executed on.
Memory management, notably including garbage collection.
Checking and enforcing security restrictions on the running code.
Loading and executing programs, with version control and other such features.
Before talking in more detail about these, a few bits of terminology need to be clarified.
Managed Code
"Managed Code" is code that targets
Managed Data
With Managed Code comes Managed Data. CLR provides memory allocation and deallocation facilities, and garbage collection. Some
Common Type System
The CLR uses something called the Common Type System (CTS) to strictly enforce type-safety. This ensures that all classes are compatible with each other, by describing types in a common way. CTS defines how types work within the runtime (their declaration and usage), which enables types in one language to interoperate with types in another language, including cross-language exception handling. As well as ensuring that types are only used in appropriate ways, the runtime also ensures that code doesn't attempt to access memory that hasn't been allocated to it (that is to say, the code is type-safe).
Assemblies
.NET programs are constructed from "Assemblies". An Assembly is a compiled and versioned collection of code and metadata that forms an atomic functional unit. All Assemblies contain a Manifest, which contains the Assembly name, version, and locale, has a list of files that form the Assembly, what dependencies the Assembly has, and what features are exported by the Assembly.
When you target
PE files contain a stub MS DOS program (if you've ever tried to run a Win32 executable from DOS and seen the "This program requires Microsoft Windows" message, you've seen that stub in action).
The first block of data within the PE wrapper is the IL itself. IL looks approximately like assembler. This is the bit that actually gets compiled and executed.
The second is called the metadata. This describes the contents of the file -- for instance, what methods it provides, what parameters they take, and what they return.
The third is the manifest. This describes what other components the executable needs in order to run. It also contains public keys of external components, so that the CLR can ensure that the external component is the one that the executable thinks it is.
When running the executable, the CLR uses Just-In-Time compilation. As each method within the executable gets called, it gets compiled to native code; subsequent calls to the same method don't have to undergo the same compilation, so the overhead is only incurred once.
JIT compilation raises some issues. One is that it demands resources -- memory and processor particularly. To solve this, MS have two JIT compilers: a normal one, that optimizes compiled code fairly well, but can be processor and/or memory intensive; and an "EconoJIT". EconoJIT might not optimize the code as well, but it'll require less memory and processor time to run. It will also allow your running program to discard the compiled form of a method, thereby freeing up memory, at the expense of having to compile it again. A third kind of compiler has been hinted at (though hasn't made it into the version 1 release), called the "OptJIT". It will work a little differently; it will use a subset of IL (OptIL) with additional information to suggest to the OptJIT compiler how to generate its output; there may also be greater optimization of the IL. The idea is to reduce the overhead due to the JIT compilation without sacrificing the quality of the emitted machine code.
XP rulez, 2k is for losers without kazaa. Corpfiles baby!
Ultralights - Orbit Lounge
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Some KDE Myths.
l s. php3
o ut h-metatheme.jpeg Its a
...Gnome/GTK
..and some other I missed out, its not
KDE Myth: Koffice owns, Kspread, Kword..they own, Gnome-office sucks.
Truth:
o Gnumeric has made some huge steps in the last 6 months, with the
semi-intergration of Guppi (graphing)...its a very stable Spreadsheet
application, offers many features that kspread dreams of. More Functions,
more file filters,.. Kspread is more like a budget/cutdown version of
Gnumeric.
To put it blutantly KDE toolbars and general gui design are/have always
been a mess.
o Abiword also offers similar benefits of Gnumeric (features and File
Filters) hey does Kword have a good import/exprt RTF?! alpha-quality? wtf?
How long has Kword been in-existence? and they still cant properly render
RTF still? Even the list of known filters (export and import) available
looks very sad. http://www.koffice.org/filters/status.phtml
Considering Abiword is also being developed for many other platforms, its
done pretty well so far. Can you say WYSIWYG?
o Kivio doesnt offer everything you would want, and if you want specific
stencils, you have to fork out for them...Is this where FreeSoftware is
going? We get cutdown versions of a product,... DIA isnt bound to a
company hard bent in making a profit. So when DIA starts employing some of
these Stencils, what happens then? you spent $$$ for nothing?
http://www.thekompany.com/products/kivio/stenci
KDE Myth: Konq ownz mozilla, netscape etc...
Truth: Mozilla is truely more standards complient, as of late 0.9.4+
series, The Mozilla engine is really starting to shine now, Konq has
always had a hard time rendering any DHTML/Javascript, even with some
webpages the fonts are screwed.
Mozilla isnt Perfect, but hey, everything renders properly. Konq trys to
hard to be "Internet Explorer" on the linux desktop, Its time to
completely drop the KHTML shit, If theres a better, more mature
engine...use it. KHTML was once needed, now its not.. And if you want to
Compare Gnome Galeon,..I dare you.
Nautalus was once critised as being a slow, dog, rah rah.. well it was,
yeah it was slow,...but it has improved, but it seems kde users still like
to think that. Well if it makes you happy. Nautalus is very themeable
http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/ximian-s
welcome change away from the Windows File Manager look.
KDE Myth: GTK+ is just damn ugly
So you havent tried the abundance of GTK+ themes? cleanice? eazel?
thinice? pixmap?
Yeah, Gtk themes that have been around longer than kde2... and with the
upcoming release of GTK2, themes are getting better and faster. Themes
under KDE just dont look "pretty". Even Gnome icons are better. So
customising Gnome to look differently isnt that hard..however KDE just
looks like that, Mosfet just looks tacky.
KDE Myth: We have all the cool appz. QT/KDE rulesss!
Oh really? So lets now count Evolution, GIMP, Red Carpet, Xchat, XMMS,
Galeon, Balsa, Gnumeric, Pan, Abiword, mplayer, Glade, Anjuta
has plently of cool apps.
KDE Myth: Gnome is loosing, its dead, just use KDE.
Well considering most new distros have KDE preinstalled as default, ie,
Mandrake, Lindows, Caldera, Corel, Suse
surprising Gnome is losing *some* support, But with Ximian and Redhat
Gnome/GTK will keep on living. QT is hardly community developed, GTK+ has always been community developed...and thus we as the linux community we _should_ support it.
Nivarna sucks balls. If I sucked as bad as Kurt Nobrain I'd eat a shottie, too.
Please prost your homosexuel fantasyies and storyies so i may mastrbate to them. My close male freind has gone on a business tripp and i am feeling loneley toonight. Thank you.
-Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda
Good job you did there. One of the few times I laugh out loud.
nt.
Short stories are the wave of the future. No details please.
That only applies to Microsoft software.
And that, dear friends, is why I use NT 5
Yeah, let us know when it gets past version 0.0.1
After 600+ posts and 20 articles, my karma has been peaked at 50 for what seems like forever now. My new campaign: Karma Suicide!! Every post from now until my karma's back at zero will be this short crapflood posted with my +1 bonus (which i've lost already). So moderators: Do your worst! You got only 14 more points to go! Mod me troll/OT/Overrated/Whatever to get my karma back to where it began. Do this ASAP! And as for the rest of you, commit karma suicide today!
The One Rule Of Chess You'll Ever Need: Don't play someone who carries a kit in their bookbag.
So does his mother
Oh man, that's damn funny, good job!
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