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WinXP Keygen Foils Product Activation

Bill Gates' Friend's Brother's Roommate writes: "The Register has a story on a working key generator that produces 25 valid Windows XP Product Activation Keys in a few hours. As author John Lettice summarizes, 'So the question as regards keymaking software is whether or not Microsoft has any way to differentiate between generated keys and the ones it has issued itself. If not, this generation of WPA is now surely toast.'"

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  1. Re:Weird by MattRog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know entirely how WPA works, but I know with most games you *can* use a keygen for most of the codes. If they are 'well-formed' and comply with their format then the game will accept it. However, only a select number of the 'possible' working keyset is actually *valid*, meaning it exists in their large database.

    I would suspect that would be the case here; the question is whether or not that false key once accepted by the program is transmitted back to Microsoft for validation.

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  2. The ultimate protection by tuxlove · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's no way to make a crackproof piece of software. If a user has access to software, he can crack that software. Period.

    However, as the article notes, cracked software can be detected. No matter how good the cracker, there's little that can be done against online verification. If MS keeps a record of all valid keys, then anyone attempting to use online MS services of any kind with a genned key can be detected and denied/disabled.

    This is an old trick for online games, etc. Crackers come out with keygens for such games almost simultaneously with the release of the games (or even before :), but these keygens only work for the offline version of the game. As soon as the someone tries to use that game online, they're denied access by the game server because their genned key isn't in the database of valid keys in the field.

    So, this story has little import as far as MS' protection being faulty. I have no doubt they expected it, and I have no doubt that they don't care too much. Using Win XP w/o the ability to update or connect to certain online services safely will probably end up being more than sufficient protection from MS' viewpoint.

  3. I think they will let it go by tester13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article makes mention of Microsoft possibly breaking illegally copied versions of XP corporate via patch in the future. They have not done this yet, and I do not think they will. Think of the public relations nightmare that would ensue if MS broke even some legitimate copies (licensed copies with wrong serials).

    It has been said before, but the determined "pirate" will not be deterred by inconvenience.

    I think they know its not worth their while.

  4. Re:Microsoft by Mr_Matt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Yeah, but here's the rub: say that,
    • Joe Sixpack buys Windows XP, installs, and registers with the MS Key, all legal and marvy.
    • Joe Script-Kiddie gets a "valid" WinXP key that matches Joe Sixpacks, and tries to install XP using the generated key.

    Now there's two copies of WinXP out there with the key, one of them bad. Simple solution, right? First guy to use the key is legal, second guy is the pirate. But wait - suppose Joe Script-Kiddie gets the key and installs a pirated WinXP before Joe Sixpack gets home from Best Buy. Now the situation is reversed, since the first guy is the pirate. And I doubt that any serial number database MS would set up would have something so obtuse as where each individual copy of Windows is sold - it would defy logic to think that the serial number of every copy of Windows is tracked with that copy's physical location. So you can't really sort out who bought Windows legally, and who's installing with a bogus key. Sounds like a tough nut for MS to crack - well, tough shit. :)
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  5. Re:You have the right to use the software you buy by Komodo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are you sure posting this is a good idea? Now Slashdot is a distribution channel for illegal circumvention devices, which is a terrorist act.

    They'll be coming after YOU next.

    Welcome to the 21st century.

  6. Re:Weird by fred911 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That specific software you are mentioning was older versions of CDRWIN. Jeff Arnold the owner of Goldenhawk wrote a nice little feature into his app that would generate hidden files until your hard drive was full, if a keygen generated key was used to install.

    A real asswipe. Writes an app designed to dump raw bits from CD's but doesn't want his software copied.

    Then again.. it was a few years ago.

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  7. Re:You have the right to use the software you buy by Amigori · · Score: 3, Insightful
    T` 9?all for fair use, i do not agree with posting the keygen, then saying:

    "Please do not use it if you have not paid for Windows XP."

    If you have paid for a copy of Windows XP, it would have come with the product key, defeating the need for a keygen. I imagine that your intent is so users may install XP on more than one of their own, personal machines, but what would the ratio of them to users who just need a key to pirate the software be? I'm going with many more pirates to more legit (not totally legal as you are not complying with the EULA [which is a whole other issue in itself]) users.

    Please do not think that I am against Fair Use, but Slashdot is not the place to publish this type of software. Newsgroups, personal websites, etc. would be a better place for this type of code. Just to keep Slashdot out of any legal trouble that may come of it.

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  8. Re:Weird by G-funk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So basically, if you purchase his software and mis-type the code, the programmer decides it's ok to damage your real-world property? What a cockhead. I'd buy it mis-type the code and sue to prove a point.

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  9. Re:Weird by crucini · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The real threat is when a key gets loose on the internet and it is used by tens of thousands of people.

    But how is this a problem? Make it so when a client logs in with a certain key, any existing sessions under that key are terminated.
  10. Re:Weird by jhoffoss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know it's blasphemous to mention on /. but, last time I checked, CDRWin wasn't (and indeed, never was) open-source software. This guy wrote the app, and he's free to do whatever he wants to prevent it from being stolen and/or used illegally. CDRWin is a great friggin app, and one that I got more than my money's worth from. A program like that, or nero, is one I am happy to fork money over for. Something like EZ-CD Creator on the other hand, if I were desperate, I would steal in two seconds. And I would delete it as fast as is physically possible. But that's why I never bought (or installed) a copy of it.

    I start to have problems with paying for programs when I'm paying more for the software than my computer cost me when it was new, though. I still haven't paid for anything like that...so no one is perfect. But I don't blow sunshine up my ass and pretend I have a "right" to the software. I know I'm still stealing it.

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  11. Re:Maybe... by Mr_Matt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Initiating karma burn in 3...2...1...

    Minimum wage is supposed to be a learning wage, not a living wage...

    You're an arrogant little cock, aren't you? Pardon me while I feel bad that you're paying an extra dime or two for a fucking hamburger while somebody else slaves away earning billions for somebody else, while they themselves earn only enough to pay for maybe half of their living costs. There's some half-witted retard two posts down or so that thinks that without welfare, we wouldn't have a recession - this, despite the wage-slaves at the local Mickey D's probably aren't on fucking welfare...they have jobs, after all and you, who apparently doesn't think that everybody in this country deserves a livable wage. Isn't that why people came to America, to get out from under the thumbs of the ruling class and find a way to make a living, despite (horrors!) maybe being somewhat behind the curve? Equality of all humans means jack shit to you, does it?

    --Begin wanton flamage--

    I guess it's just not good enough for you, Oh Mighty Fast-Food Devotee. But we all see right through you, you fucking prick: all the "hard work" and "education" you do (and that your mommy and daddy probably pay for anyways) will never allow you to grow up enough to help out somebody who's on the skids, or is just trying to make their way through this fucked-up world. Your own life is so pathetic that you have nothing better to say about those "below" you than gripe about their existence on subsidence wages in this, the greatest country in the world. Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on, dickhead.

    --End wanton flamage--

    Besides, numb-nuts, you're not subsidizing the guy for whom a house and car is "enough" (like not being a bitch of consumerism is a bad thing...) - you're subsidizing the three-piece suit who runs the chain. Remember that, next time you feel self-righteous when purchasing fast food. Jackass.

    Karma burn complete...

    Eh, what the hell, it was worth it. :)

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