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Violent Video Game Protection Act

KidIcarus writes: "Four lawmakers in Georgia have submitted a bill that would make it a criminal offense to sell or make violent video games available to minors. Full text of the bill here. Seems that politicians still don't have a clue, despite indications that video games don't cause violence." This may remind you of the (since overturned) law segregating certain video games from others in Indianapolis.

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  1. Double standard. by shockwaverider · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But of course it's OK for CNN et al to show scenes of mass slaughter of innocents.

    Isn't this a double standard displaying a bias against gamers...

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  2. WHAT?!?!?! by timdorr · · Score: 4, Funny

    They're trying to stop me from playing my violent games? KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL!!!!!!

    Dammit, I'm gonna rocket jump over to their house and grenade spam their house, but first I gotta find the red key to get inside....lemme bunny hop over to that building that says central control......

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  3. Embarassed to be from Georgia by jkinney3 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Once again, the elected leaders of Georgia demonstrate why this state is still ranked 49th in education quality . It's stupidity that leads to violence. Since this state is chock full of stupid people it might explain the high violent crime rate. Sadly, as more people pass through the public school process in Georgia, the situation will only get worse. We might even sink below Mississippi at some point .

  4. Too much by jACL · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a parent, I can understand why some people think that playing Max Payne would be like training for the next Columbine. Violence runs rampant in our media.

    But it always has. The greatest literature, and some of the most thoughtful movies (Schindler's List and Platoon come to mind) are rife with violence. The difference is the follow-through. Showing a full consideration of the effects, or the struggle against violence is often what sets stories of violence apart as literature.

    Would I want these games banned? No. The ratings system that is in place is what I use. Before my kids get a game, I evaluate it. Only the responsible ones get through.

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  5. What do you expect from a GameSpot article? by osgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems that politicians still don't have a clue, despite indications that video games don't cause violence.

    Well, that's not really even what the GameSpot article says, and can you guess the slant that the GameSpot article takes on the original Surgeon General's report?

    The Surgeon General's report states that violent video games can be a factor, but is not a sole motivator for violent behavior.

    If it's a factor, then further studies should be done to determine how much of a factor it is. Put some numbers on it.

    I certainly don't have reservations about preventing the very young from having too-easy access to harmful things. I'm a big freedoms-type Libertarian, but young people often don't have the maturity to be able to handle a full set of freedoms. It's why we restrict driving, voting, and other rights that we grant freely to adults. It's also the reason why minors' criminal records are sealed and they're given special sentencing considerations when they commit crimes.

    1. Re:What do you expect from a GameSpot article? by dciman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Guns and video games are NOT the problem here. The problem is parents who do not take an active role in the kids lives. You are a fool to think that kids or criminals who want to get a hold of a new video game, or a firearm is going to be thwarted by some new legislation.

      Just like when I was a kid... for some reason me and my friends always found ways to get "R" rated movies. This wouldn't stop anything. Just be a waste of taxpayers money in the courts when the challenge came.

      Parents need to step up and start acting like parents again..... and actually see what their kids and doing...

      Just my thoughts..

  6. Explain by infiniti99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can someone please explain to me why the "Slashdot Consensus" seems to be in disagreement of things like this?

    Why is having enforcable ratings on video games a bad thing? After all, we have movie ratings and no one is complaining.

    So a salesman will now stop some 10 year old kid from buying Mortal Kombat 7, with ultra-bloody effects. Isn't this better than being stuck with a one-version-fits-all where the blood is replaced by sweat?

    Without ratings, all movies would suck. They would have to stay within certain limits. This bill is about enforcing who is able to purchase a game based on content (ie, rating). Such enforcement only encourages developers to be as artistic as possible, and not worry about angry parents. The ratings are here to protect not only children, but developers.

    1. Re:Explain by msobkow · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Movie producers go to great lengths to avoid the highest ratings so that they can get the all-important teen audience. If you check any theatre, the vast majority of the audience is under 20, and the video game producers know it as well as the movie producers.

      The producers would probably prefer to keep 10 year olds from buying the most violent of games -- many of them have children, too. They don't want to make it too difficult for the 14-18 audience to buy the games, as that is probably a huge chunk of their market.

      I have to question the rationale behind wanting the violence to be ever increasingly realistic. As a programmer I'm impressed by the attention to detail in the newer games (e.g. area-specific damage skins), but I don't really notice those details when I'm playing the games.

      Realism in the sense of allowing alernate solutions as Deus Ex tried to is far more important to me as a player than whether the blood pool under a body spreads as time goes on.

      Despite my personal opinions that we don't need such attention to detail for the gibs, I strongly object to censorship. It is the responsibility of parents to monitor their children, not society at large.

      Anyone who thinks desensitization comes from video games really needs to take a look at their own reaction to the news, particularly when their children are in the room. How many people sit stone-faced while the latest accident/murder/rape is reported on the news, suggesting to their children that this is a "normal" part of society? How many more protest "shock" at such acts, while remaining glued to the screen in rapt attention, the very attention children crave from their parents?

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  7. Good grief by bwalling · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everyone here throws a fit about everything!

    Look, the point of this law is to put the decision of game content into the hands of the parents. If the parent wants the child to own a Mature rated game, the parent can go with the child to purchase it. Same goes for R rated movies. It's the same damn thing. It's not discrimination, it's not politicians not knowing anything about computers or games or violence. It's the same thing as R rated movies.

    The video game industry has finally become large enough to get noticed, and at the same time the content is becoming more realistic - more movie like.

    This isn't going to get struck down, people. There's nothing wrong with it. Face the fact that until you're 18, there are some decisions your parents get to make for you. That's always been the case.

  8. Re:Lets use me.. by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's the question...

    did you father or whatever adult that taught you weaponry teach you the basics? Like dont point a gun at something unless you want it dead? Always use the safety, NEVER keep ammo in a stored weapon, NEVER EVER keep one chambered unless you are hunting or shooting?

    The basics that are the mantra of the NRA are the most important part of good gun use. My 10 year old daughter has gone shooting (cute little 22 rifles) she loves it, and I am teaching her basic gun safety, Athough I go overboard a bit.. she knows that even pointing an empty gun at anything is dangerous and has a good chance of killing. you never put your gun away without a complete cleaning and inspection, the guns go in their cas and in the safe.

    yes, as far as the Liberal Left is concerned I'm raising a gun-toting freak. but in reality I am rasing a child that for the rest of her life knows that guns are NOT toys, they can be very dangerous if you dont use them right.

    I firmly believe that EVERY child when they get into 4th grade should be taught basic gun safety and should be taught to respect guns. Maybe we would have less morons running around trying to cap every fool they think diss them.

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  9. Society et al by cluge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How long will it be before we will outlaw children using their thumb and index finger to make a "gun" to play cops & robbers? Oh yeah, a child was suspended for school for that already.

    If guns (and therefore video games, TV and movies that depict guns) are the root of our violence problems in america why the hell didn't my fathers generation kill each other at record rates? Have you SEEN this roy rogers guy? He carries a gun and used it several times! How about that show gunsmoke? EVERYONE carried a gun, and someone got shot in EVERY episode! Not like todays "Charlies Angels" where none of the heroes are allowed to use guns. It wouldn't be PC, and god knows that if Cameron Diaz used a firearm in a movie I might go Columbine on your ass!

    I remember a frontline article that compared the affects of media on young people to a feedback loop. What our PC culture accepts as normal is so narrow in it's focus that normal behavior that has been in children and teenagers since the dawn of time is now somehow so aberrant that you have to drug you kid out of his mind

    If society as a whole can't stand simple age appropriate behavior, we are all in for a rough ride. Outlawing video games is just a silly step that some very misguided people are taking for political expediency. If you truly want to stop the violence you have to start early you have to

    1. Have both parents involved (which is hard if they both have to work 70 hours a week to make ends meet. Some parents are additionally pretty heavily medicated at that!)

    2. You must have a have school system that actually cares about something besides how good the football team is and how fashionable dressed the students are. Not all student problems can be taken care of with a "magic pill"

    3. Have a society that kicks silly politicians out on their can when the pull these knee jerk reactions

    I don't hold out much hope

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  10. Re:Prohibition Never Works by maxpublic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anti-gun freaks unite! It's for the chiiiillldreeen, after all! If we prevent just one death then the law will have been worth it.

    Okay, so last year, according to the FBI:

    - more than 90% of all murders in the U.S. were committed with 'weapons of opportunity', including blunt objects and knives, even when a gun was available. So hey! Save the children! Outlaw knives and baseball bats! If we just save one life....

    - this means that of the approximately 30,000 people who were murdered last year, about 3,000 were killed with guns. In contrast, 5,000 died in falls (mostly stairs, followed by ladders) and 12,000 drownded (mainly in pools or local rivers or lakes). So while you're rabidly making the world safer for children don't forget to ban: all stairs, ladders, stools, pools, rivers, lakes, and all eight oceans. After all, If we just save one life....

    - ooooh, and let's not forget that a little less than 50,000 people were killed in car accidents. Ban cars!

    - and finally, at least another 50,000 died due to alcohol or alcohol-related diseases. So let's ban alcohol too, it's for the chiiiillldren! Wait, where have I heard that before....

    Max

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