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Not A Graceful Recovery For HP Customers

An alert reader named michael pointed out this article running at Infoworld on the policy instated by HP of supplying actual Windows XP backup media for their Pavilion only if owners really, really need them. While HP and other vendors have been moving to recovery partitions for a little while, it seems like HP customers have to jump through particular hoops to demonstrate they really need physical media, and aren't very happy about it. The article makes a good point too regarding the installation of Linux partitions. The banner ad on the page is for --guess what? -- Windows XP.

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  1. fp1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    www.linux.org

  2. Sad News - Goatse.cx guy DEAD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    I just heard the sad news on CBC radio. Web entreprenuer/pioneer goatse.cx guy was found dead in his home this morning. Even if you never admired his work, you can appreciate what he did for the 'last frontier' of the internet.

    Reports are that he died from complications resulting from having sex with goats. Truly a internet icon.


    He will be missed :(

  3. Trolls don't like linux! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  4. Money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Does some stupid ass things to companies

  5. Re:Not necessary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This isn't a troll.....it's just plain STOOOPID!

  6. One more note onto that. by tonhe · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    The company that laid me off did me a wonderfull job.

    twas ImageStream Internet Solutions.

    email the president
    email the guy who laid me off (CTO)

    They laid me off the day I came back from vacation, and 2 days after my birthday, with no warning, What do you normally do on vacation ? Spend all your money, THANKS A LOT !

    Ok, my gripe is over,

    Tony

  7. Re:straight from the factory to you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Wow, that must mean if you didn't build your own car you're too stupid to know the oil must be changed every so often. And if you didn't build your house yourself you'd be too stupid to know the windows have to be replaced sometimes. More annoying nerd arrogance; God how I tire of it!

  8. Troll is an unfair moderation for this... by Lethyos · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    He is not a troll... this needs moderated to -1, retard, stupid, or idiot.

    --
    Why bother.
  9. Re:*yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What I feel is this: I am being attacked by psychic script kiddies. They are what I am trying to rid myself of - those who get everything
    they have through hacking into port 31337 and who once they do this, believe themselves to be all-powerful and very, very cool.

    I am taking a class in networking right now - and every single day in that class I think this: the entire world of network security seems to me to be an 'as above, so below - as below, so above' type of thing - with the whole scheme laying out in detail the manner in which demonic attacks are perpetrated and fought in the lower psychic realms, by those who have been traditionally called, 'stealers of souls', etc.

    Those realms are just opening up these days I think, and many people are 'going online'. This presents the usual security problems.

    It is not that the human entirety, the soul, etc are a machine that can be programmed and manipulated like a computer is - that is IMHO most definitely *not* the case, but... the verbal mind - that portion of the mind that most modern people are by and large concerned with to the exclusion of anything else these days - *is* very binary and so probably can be dealt with by those who know how to do these things, in ways much like a computer is dealt with.

    So the method of attack of teenage ego-bound hackers, is very much a reflection of the method of attack of spiritually backward, demonic attackers of the human mindspace. This is what I think. And while these things cannot hurt anything that really matters (read: all that is
    non-binary within you), they *can* hack into your verbal mind and do all the stuff there that they are able to do using binary techniques.

    If you don't know how to deal with that and you place your entiresense of what you are squarely in the realm of your verbal mind, then such a hack can really fuck you up if you do not know how to deal with it. Trojan horses, macro viruses, worms, 'back orifice', etc. - all reflections of methods of demonic attack in the psychic realms waged by those who place all worth in the verbal mindspace and who pride themselves on being able to manipulate that mindspace.

    I see myself as being engaged in an almost perpetual struggle *against* this stuff trying to hack into my personal mindspace these days and in
    this life since 1995. I don't think this struggle will end until I die 40 years from now or so. It is what I directly struggle against every day - and have since 1995.

    So I am by no means any kind of 'script kiddie'.

  10. Re:windoze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    LINUX SUCKS Because it is fundamentally a bad implementation, of a bad implementation
    of a great idea.

    No other source of online commentary produces such pompous, idiotic,
    teenage-30-yr-old-with-kids-wannabes*, elitist remarks than Linux, with
    the possible, if not hauntingly similar field of warez.

    Fundamentally, Linux isn't the best OS you would want to use, it doesn't
    function in a useable sense, user-friendly functionality is snubbed by
    aforementioned teenage-30-yr-old-with-kids-wannabes, in favor of a more
    'adaptable' system, in other words, they are a: unable to implement simple
    computer functions into simple operations within an OS, due to their
    limited understanding of how people would like to interface with such
    functions, and b: they would rather see their knowledge kept in demand,
    rather than dispel the myth, that user friendly OS cant be as powerful,
    functional or reliable, without using anymore CPU time.

    Linux user make many many claims to people why they should use Linux, I
    haven't heard anyone press someone to use windows, it just happens...

    Linux users say things like:

    - It is free (think free speech, not free beer)

    Why does Linux give you free speech? Lets unravel your misconception,
    you obviously think by using a 'popular' and widely used OS that you are
    in effect giving up your right to freedom of speech? Anyway...

    - The open source model helps developers find and fix bugs faster

    Thank goodness!! If there is a bug in a program, then whoever finds it
    can quickly look through the source code, spot it and tada!! wow I am so
    glad that no Linux software has any bugs in it now!! One thing I HEARD AN
    ACTUAL LINUX 'BOFFIN' decree: 'Linux can never have a virus, because
    everything is open source'. Now I am not judging anyone from the spoken
    words of one individual, I understand how a CPU molding system, and Unix
    security limit the effectiveness of viruses, that isn't the issue, its just
    that people who use Linux are taken up in an ever growing hype. Imagine,
    if Linux was Microsoft, and Windows 98 was an underdog, freely distributed
    software, with multi-distributors, THE SAME people, would be chanting pro
    Win98 BS about speed, effectiveness, power, and we all know the fallacy in
    that.

    - Allows me to run in Console mode without wasting CPU power with a
    windowing system, if I don't want one.

    I fully appreciate this comment

    - Allows older hardware to be useful again.

    Yeah, I hate Microsoft for that to, why doesn't windows NT run on my
    SX33? Why?? I am really really miffed! I want to run my SX33 as a server
    for 200 computers on a LAN, so now I am going to have to install Linux on it
    to make it able to do the job...

    I am so glad Microsoft have recognized the need to fully implement and
    take advantage of the hardware, and lead ahead, not be stuck developing
    for the 386 and 486 spec computers, or indeed, P200 and below. And, might
    I add, the P166 is still as powerful today as it was when it was released,
    and thanks to Microsoft, and other companies, who share the same
    aspirations, there is allot of software which fully implements the system,
    because when it was released, they wrote software it could run.

    - Provides all the utilities to write whatever software I need.

    OK, Linux wins hands down there, damn, I really wish I could compile
    programs under windows...in any language...*sniff*

    - I supported on a variety of different CPUs (i386, Alpha, Sparc, etc)

    Wow, if I had a Sparc that would make me feel so much better, I mean,
    spending all my time being depressed in front of Solaris, and loving the
    'user functionality' of having to mount and unmount my own floppy
    disks...then I would install Linux. and hey, if your wondering, i have
    used Linux, and liked some of the things, including GIMP, which I haven't
    bothered to download for windows, because, I can, and am writing much
    better software. Oh yes, I am fluent in 3 Languages, English, Greek and
    German, as well as C, C++, PERL, Java, SQL, VB and even PASCAL *snigger*

    - Can communicate with any other OS over networks (SMB, AppleTalk, IPX,
    TCP/IP, etc)

    Well, Linux does have better networking facilities. Only in my
    experience, windows networking, and even the IE4 'catastrophe' of
    network/OS integration (sure as hell made things powerful and flexible to
    use...) was far easier and made me think of what I wanted to do, not what
    the hell I, and the OS was currently trying to do...

    - Is customizable.

    Ambiguous definition, core dumped:
    Depends what you want to configure... colors?! What?? you want to make
    your own operating system?? OK, granted the ability to recompile the
    kernel and implement any new features, and program your own windows GUI to
    sit on top of the OS is very exciting and dandy, however, in this world,
    some people like to walk from one job to another, and know what the hell
    button X does, and where the 'recycle bin' is =]

    - Is not limited to one distributor

    Good point, I don't like Microsoft any more than you do, I admit their
    operating systems and bland, unimaginative, and yes, buggy, i hate them on
    a high plane of black vengeful anger, but I get by.
    However, you haven't really explored the extent of advantages this gives
    you have you? because I fail to see that many...

    - Has a wide choice of {applications, window managers, windowing systems, et. al.}

    Not as big as mine *snigger*
    Really this is a weak effort, I can think of more reasons why Linux is
    good, and on the whole, I don't like the way it is going! Yes yes yes, I
    know Microsoft suck the proverbial donkey, and some people would love to
    have their own, unique, OS which does what they want, but I fear, as many
    people diverge with ability to chop and change, the problem of actually
    getting anything to work will get allot harder...