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Seti@Home Bandwidth Problems

reflexreaction writes: "With so many of the /. users actively using and supporting Seti@home, many of you have realized that in the last couple of weeks that Seti has had some serious problems receiving completed data and getting new data to process from its 3 million members because of network bandwidth problems. All the gritty details are here. The article details some things that users can do to alleviate some of the problems including connecting during off hours and downloading more than unit than once using programs like SetiQueue for PC and Seti Unit Manager for Mac. Donations are also accepted. There is also a plea for bandwidth donations. It will be truly unfortunate if this page becomes /.ted without benefit from /. users."

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  1. Priorities.. Reflections on the project by d.valued · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not sure whether or not this is a good thing or a bad thing. Lemme elaborate.

    Disclamer: I have never been part of SETI@home; I feel that statistically it's a collossal waste of time. I've been part of both the GIMPS project and the distributed.net RC5-64 projects for about four years now. I've got the Kevlar body armor halfway on.

    The good, I guess, is that there's such a collossal interest in this. I mean, hell, if KzAplOcQQ and boB are sharing the Encyclopaedia Galactica (or the Hitchikers' Guide, whatever) over radio waves, then we'll eventually find it hopefully in something that resembles paEr Unicode.

    However, I see a great many downsides to this.

    First off, if the aforementioned theoretical KzAplocQQ and boB of the paEr race have to use radio waves, then there's a pretty good chance they haven't been able to go superphotonic, in which case we're going to have a long wait before we can even think of going to their New York and flipping them the left tentacle.

    Secondly, how will we be able to decode a xenic dataset, much less their language? I mean, what if they can transmit trits or quaytes while we're looking for bits or bytes? How do we know what a newline would appear? Hell, do we even know if it would even be necessary? And what about the characters? What if the Chinese language is easier to interpret than paEr?

    Third, there are much better uses of free cycles, at least fiscally. GIMPS will provide a hundred kilobucks to the first person to successfully find a ten megadigit Mersenne prime. distributed.net provides a two kilobuck prize and a large donation to the FSF, EFF, or other worthy charities. Even the commercial distributed computing projects at least pay for the use of your rig.

    (PS: paEr is a theoretical name for a xenic (alien) species, contrived from randomly entering characters on the number pad. KzAplocQQ is an unpronouncable name, unless you're lucky or high. boB just sounds funny.)

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  2. Necessity is the mother of invention by m_evanchik · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In a way, this hurdle could prove a boon, by forcing the SETI@home developers to make their system more efficient.

    Necessity is, after all, the mother of invention.

    As their own statement points out, two of the short-term solutions include making the data sent out more efficient (binary instead of text) and letting each node do more computation.

    SETI@home was originally developed to male up for the shortcomings of processing power of any single computer. To solve the problem, they took a bit of a free ride on networking bandwidth to distribute the problem.

    Now their success is also forcing them to be more efficient when it comes to network bandwidth, as well as processor, utilization.

    So this forced economy will hopefully make the system more efficient through improvement of the system.

    Pie-in-the-sky and we have all the computing power and bandwidth we need, but then who would have an incentive to innovate?

    Ultimately, SETI@home's legacy will probably have less to do with discoveries of extraterrestrial intelligence and more to do with the evolution of better computing techniques!

  3. Re:Gritty details? by acoopersmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, the network admins have pointed the finger at Kazaa & gnutella. According to the UCB Director of Communications & Network Services, "kazaa and gnutella account for more than half the bits in aggregate". And it's not just SETI that's suffering - all network users have been affected. Unfortunately, a lower priority or outright ban on those services has been rejected due to policy and legal issues.

  4. Google to the rescue? by jinx90277 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Given that Google has massive bandwidth and storage capabilities, perhaps SETI@Home should simply ask Google to host their servers. It's a win-win situation:
    • The kiddies get to keep downloading their MP3s and warez without that pesky space junk clogging their bandwidth.
    • Google gets to add yet another feature to their front page: "Search galactic transmissions for..."
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  5. An easy solution by mosch · · Score: 5, Informative
    I don't mean to be rude but another solution, if you're running windows, is to try to find a cure for cancer, or alzheimers, or anthrax, instead of looking for extra-terrestrial life. This can be done by downloading this.

    Go, do it now, I swear you'll feel all warm and fuzzy.

  6. Conspiracy by Max+the+Merciless · · Score: 5, Funny

    These bandwidth problems aren't technical, they're political. We're getting too close, so they're shutting us down.

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